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1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

Heh... well don't break it off while holding it... ouch.

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11 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

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niether of you are in the wrong, its your opinon vs hers , there is no wrong opinion

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19 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

niether of you are in the wrong, its your opinon vs hers , there is no wrong opinion

Incorrect.

 

If her opinion was: "I personally don't like to masturbate, and don't do it", that would be a totally fine thing to do.

 

As soon as her opinion becomes: "Ew that's disgusting and wrong and you must stop", it becomes morally and objectively wrong.

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Damn purists lol

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5 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Incorrect.

 

If her opinion was: "I personally don't like to masturbate, and don't do it", that would be a totally fine thing to do.

 

As soon as her opinion becomes: "Ew that's disgusting and wrong and you must stop", it becomes morally and objectively wrong.

Morally wrong? Depends on your culture, subjectively wrong I can agree its neither nasty or good just a biological urge.

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1 minute ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

Morally wrong? Depends on your culture, subjectively wrong I can agree its neither nasty or good just a biological urge.

It's morally wrong to tell someone that they cannot do something perfectly healthy and harmless to themselves, yes.

 

That would be like me telling you that you cannot have orange juice... because... I hate oranges.

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This chick isn't going to work out.  I'm calling it now, it's a waste of time to deal with someone who immediately is raising flags like this where your ideologies differ.  

 

Also, the "waiting until the 1st of the month to start dating" is just fucking weird.  I don't even know when I started dating my GF beyond a 3-month range.

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12 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

Guarantee she hasn't. Based on her super strong opinion on it

you say that but over 95% of the population of earth (think it's 98% (I forgot saw the statistic years ago)) have masturbated so it's highly likely she has, and most of the other 2% are probably lying.

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Well, masturbation is a normal thing to do, my GF once i wasn't home checked my dvd's under some she found porn, and asked me what that was. I had to be honest and told her i like a wank once in a while. she said it's alright as long as I am not cheating.

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Ignoring the fap part, if there is something you like to do and she tries to keep you actively away from it while you don't see any harm in it. Get a different GF.

You 2 sadly don't seem like a good match and it's very likely the differences between both of you will only cause more arguments, sadness, angryness that's just not necessary.

 

 

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1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

It's morally wrong to tell someone that they cannot do something perfectly healthy and harmless to themselves, yes.

 

That would be like me telling you that you cannot have orange juice... because... I hate oranges.

It depends on your culture and beliefs which shape your morals. Saying someone else's is wrong is subjective in of itself. There's no mental gymnastics you can pull to justify putting your moral code onto another group of people. If you don't like it don't date a Puritan. Just like I wouldn't date a fundamentalist person because according to most religions I'm a abomination to their god. Lol Only one way to see if they are right or wrong but I don't think I'd be able to tell you if they were right.

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1 minute ago, MadyTehWolfie said:

It depends on your culture and beliefs which shape your morals. Saying someone else's is wrong is subjective in of itself. There's no mental gymnastics you can pull to justify putting your moral code onto another group of people. If you don't like it don't date a Puritan. Just like I wouldn't date a fundamentalist person because according to most religions I'm a abomination to their god. Lol Only one way to see if they are right or wrong but I don't think I'd be able to tell you if they were right.

True, all morality in every case is subjective to some degree or another - since morality is an entirely human construct. And while I agree with the "don't date <insert whatever here>" sentiment, I still think it's wrong of her to push her moral code onto him.

 

But I digress.

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masturbation isnt bad in any way IMO. most people do it or have done it atleast once and most of the population of the earth isnt dead yet is it? im on your side and actiually got a bit of a laugh of at that joke, its great

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4 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Pray tell, how do you know this, exactly?

 

Technology isn't gender exclusive, nor does this forum require one discloses any information that could lead to the conclusion that they're male or female.

Tiny fraction of members responded, and more importantly, no guarantee it was a representative sample (since self-selection, etc). Still, the only publicly available source we have.

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7 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Tiny fraction of members responded, and more importantly, no guarantee it was a representative sample (since self-selection, etc). Still, the only publicly available source we have.

WCCF would serve as a FAR better source. The poll includes 2 possible answers that do not actually contribute to answering the question and is presented in a way that cannot garner a servable sample size, with the assumption that many females would even vote to begin with (or vote honestly).

 

Take a look at the gaming market. For a significantly long time, it was assumed that males were the largest demographic by far, only to find out, it's about equal. Not only was it equal, but the prevalence of females in games thought to draw predominately male gamers went unnoticed because of the perceived reactions of discovering that girls play the same games.

 

Honestly, I'd sooner believe that the small majority of LTT members are females (looking at 51-55% or so), and don't disclose it, than males holding any majority.

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Poke around her house, maybe you'll find a vibrator.

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nothing wrong with it, its healthy actually so its good. some people just dont like it, or maybe they havent tried it properly.

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14 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

She's religious. And she's not that controlling, but we will see

Everybody in every part of the world and every religion is masterbating. This is normal. Actually somebody that doesn't masturbate would be not normal....

Not because some people say they don;t mean they actually really don't !!!!

 

Girls do masturbate a lot also, just not ALL girls have high libido like most mens.... 

 

I had some girlfriends in the past that like to masturbate with me, we would sometimes just masterbate each other or ourself while lookin at each other and would sometime race to the orgasm lolll


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Haha, wow, this should be an interesting topic. You're waiting to "start dating" for a particular day? You must be so young..

For starters, the fact that she's trying to control you over something like that is a red flag. If she wants to control something you do in the privacy of your own home (since you don't live together) then I'd tell her to sod off. It's none of her business. If you cater to this, then she will feel empowered and will start to impose more and more restrictions. I imagine she's the type that also wouldn't want you hanging around other females, regardless of their friendship status.

Secondly, you should never, ever change yourself to make someone else happy, if it's not something you also want to change. If you're happy fapping about then find another girl.

Thirdly, you two live apart? Don't do that to yourself. Long distance relationships barely work and they're far too much work if you're also trying to focus on something like school or furthering your career. There are tons of girls out there. Grab one that's closer. Just not by the pussy. Yet.

 

Outside of that, do you two really have much in common?

 

5 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

On a side note, while there's nothing inherently wrong with waiting for marriage to have sex, my personal view is that if you are committed, it's probably a good idea to "try it out" before marriage at least once. Sexual compatibility can have a large impact on how successful a marriage is. If, for example, you're not on the same page as your partner, it can create resentment and tension that can rip a marriage apart.

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If you're both virgins compatibility isn't really a thing. I touched more on it a few quotes below.

5 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Pray tell, how do you know this, exactly?

 

Technology isn't gender exclusive, nor does this forum require one discloses any information that could lead to the conclusion that they're male or female.

I'd say most of the more active members of the forum are male. There are females for sure, but in this forum I don't think their numbers are that high. Just like the age range is much further in the lower end of the spectrum, even though the average gamer is in their 30's.

4 hours ago, Arc_Jester said:

Masturbation is healthy and helps lower one's risk of cancer and diabetes + there's the stress relieving part among other things.

Trying to be funny? Because I find that very hard to believe.

4 hours ago, Simon771 said:

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And I don't find anything disgusting about that ... if your gf feels disgusted by that, how will she accept your penis and your sperm inside her? Let me tell you something ... it's messy after you have sex, if you don't use condom. But it still feels great and a bit mess won't stop me or my gf from doing it.

 

About waiting till marriage ... I don't think that's good idea, since I want to get intimate before I get married, to see if we are "compatibile" in bed. It might sound a bit strange, but what will you do once you get married and start having sex for the frist time. After 1 year you realise that sex with your wife is borring you or just not as you want it. Aaaaand divorce.

But that's just my opinion.

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The "compatible" argument always seemed odd to me. If you're both virgins, then there's no "compatible" as there's no baseline. You're both experiencing it for the first time, therefore it's the best you've both had. Not only that, but sex style can largely be adapted so that it caters to the other individual. That takes time, or at least a very open talk or two. That argument makes absolutely no sense.

2 hours ago, GGWP1337 said:

Well, masturbation is a normal thing to do, my GF once i wasn't home checked my dvd's under some she found porn, and asked me what that was. I had to be honest and told her i like a wank once in a while. she said it's alright as long as I am not cheating.

Hahaha who has physical media porn?! It's 2017!

53 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

Once again happy to live alone. One more stupid argument avoided.

Nah you just have to find the right girl ;) Or guy. Not judging.

17 minutes ago, smokefest said:

Girls do masturbate a lot also, just not ALL girls have high libido like most mens....
--- Try to find a girl that likes the same thing as you ;) 

That's not true at all. Most girls are actually more sexual than men, if not just as much. It's just socially unacceptable for them to go around talking about it and such. Why do you think a huge percentage of girls have fooled around with a member of the same sex? You don't get that as often with men.

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18 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Nah you just have to find the right girl ;) Or guy. Not judging.

 

Never tried it. 30 years now without sex or a girlfriend and I love it. I have no plans to change it anytime soon.

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21 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Haha, wow, this should be an interesting topic. You're waiting to "start dating" for a particular day? You must be so young..

For starters, the fact that she's trying to control you over something like that is a red flag. If she wants to control something you do in the privacy of your own home (since you don't live together) then I'd tell her to sod off. It's none of her business. If you cater to this, then she will feel empowered and will start to impose more and more restrictions. I imagine she's the type that also wouldn't want you hanging around other females, regardless of their friendship status.

Secondly, you should never, ever change yourself to make someone else happy, if it's not something you also want to change. If you're happy fapping about then find another girl.

Thirdly, you two live apart? Don't do that to yourself. Long distance relationships barely work and they're far too much work if you're also trying to focus on something like school or furthering your career. There are tons of girls out there. Grab one that's closer. Just not by the pussy. Yet.

 

Outside of that, do you two really have much in common?

 

If you're both virgins compatibility isn't really a thing. I touched more on it a few quotes below.

I'd say most of the more active members of the forum are male. There are females for sure, but in this forum I don't think their numbers are that high. Just like the age range is much further in the lower end of the spectrum, even though the average gamer is in their 30's.

Trying to be funny? Because I find that very hard to believe.

Haha, playing Russian roulette with a mostly loaded revolver are we? ;)

 

The "compatible" argument always seemed odd to me. If you're both virgins, then there's no "compatible" as there's no baseline. You're both experiencing it for the first time, therefore it's the best you've both had. Not only that, but sex style can largely be adapted so that it caters to the other individual. That takes time, or at least a very open talk or two. That argument makes absolutely no sense.

Hahaha who has physical media porn?! It's 2017!

Nah you just have to find the right girl ;) Or guy. Not judging.

That's not true at all. Most girls are actually more sexual than men, if not just as much. It's just socially unacceptable for them to go around talking about it and such. Why do you think a huge percentage of girls have fooled around with a member of the same sex? You don't get that as often with men.

not true. Stats says that 40% of females don't have any needs of sex, no libido. They made a pill to give a libido. The reason why they made a pills is because 40% of females doesnt have a libido or a huge libido 

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4 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

Never tried it. 30 years now without sex or a girlfriend and I love it. I have no plans to change it anytime soon.

I can't even imagine.

1 minute ago, smokefest said:

not true. Stats says that 40% of females don't have any needs of sex, no libido. They made a pill to give a libido. The reason why they made a pills is because 40% of females doesnt have a libido or a huge libido 

Have any proof to back up those numbers?

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