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Hey guys. I want to step up from my dad's i3/Radeon 6450/4GB work station which can (almost!) hold 30 FPS on literally the lowest settings, render distance and 1024x768p resolution in Bad Company 2, to name an example. I want to build my very first pc which is capable of FullHD 60 FPS gaming while trying to keep it under 1400€, including monitor. So far this is what I figured out -
 
i5-7400
Z270 FTW K
EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING (blower)
HyperX Fury DDR4-2133 2x4GB
HyperX Fury 2.5" 120GB SSD
Barracuda 3.5" 2TB 7.2kRPM
Samsung SE-208GB/RSDBE external optical drive
EVGA 500W Non-Modular
DG-84 case
Asus PA238QR 23" 1920x1080
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
However all that costs about 1600€ on computeruniverse.net/mindfactory.de, which are the only dealers I will purchase from. I wanted to center my build around the i5-4460 first but I couldn't find any decent mainboards for it. Scrapped that, looked at some 6th-gen Skylake i5's but price for 7400 3.0 GHz dropped to 200€, which is great for a 3.0GHz (at least in Germany, ha-ha.) . But, as it turns out and everybody here may know, some Z170 mainboards require a BIOS update before using Kaby-Lake's, and I'm not willing to run the risk of needing to update using a second CPU. I couldn't find any compability notes on EVGA's Z170 mainboards and Kaby-Lake CPUs (I've read about other manufacturers releasing Kaby-Lake-compatible Z170 mainboards). The price difference between the Z170 FTW and Z270 FTW is 50€, which is quite considerate, considering my budget
 
So, any suggestions? Should I just go with a Skylake CPU?
 
Also, will I need additional case fans? "As far as I remember" the DG-84 comes with 2 fans in the back, 1 uptop and 1 in the front panel.
 
Thanks in advance, and please don't beat me to death if I posted in the wrong forum section. 001_smile.gif
 
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That looks fine however save some money by getting a H270 or B250 motherboard.

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2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That looks fine however save some money by getting a H270 or B250 motherboard.

Thanks, I kinda assumed z170/z270 are the only ones for Kaby-Lake, wonder why EVGA only makes z170/z270 (and x99) chipset mainboards.

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https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Element-Special-IE202-EZ?EasyBuilder and just buy the PA238QR from wherever.

 

any particular reason you want W7 tho?

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1 minute ago, LeonHauptmann said:

Thanks, I kinda assumed z170/z270 are the only ones for Kaby-Lake, wonder why EVGA only makes z170/z270 (and x99) chipset mainboards.

For the CPU you have chosen you don't need a 'Z' motherboard. 

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2 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Element-Special-IE202-EZ?EasyBuilder and just buy the PA238QR from wherever.

 

any particular reason you want W7 tho?

Did you just recommend a prebuilt PC?

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13 minutes ago, LeonHauptmann said:

i5-7400
Z270 FTW K

This just doesn't make any sense....

Get a 7700 and the AsRock B250 Pro4... You will get MUCH better performance!

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K | Motherboard: AsRock X99 Extreme4 | Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1080 G1 Gaming | RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws4 2133MHz | Storage: 1 x Samsung 860 EVO 1TB | 1 x WD Green 2TB | 1 x WD Blue 500GB | PSU: Corsair RM750x | Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (White) | Cooling: Arctic Freezer i32

 

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However all that costs about 1600€ on computeruniverse.net/mindfactory.de, which are the only dealers I will purchase from.

Fantastic way to get explored since for 220 euro cheaper you can get an extremely superior rig
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€325.40 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.05 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€126.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.10 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  (€663.84 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  (€55.93 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Total: €1382.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-20 20:52 CET+0100

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

However all that costs about 1600€ on computeruniverse.net/mindfactory.de, which are the only dealers I will purchase from.

Fantastic way to get explored since for 280 euro cheaper you can get an extremely superior rig
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€325.40 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.05 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€126.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.10 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  (€663.84 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  (€55.93 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Total: €1382.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-20 20:52 CET+0100

You forgot that he included a screen in the price " Asus PA238QR 23" 1920x1080 "

+ is he acceptable to change the case?

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5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

However all that costs about 1600€ on computeruniverse.net/mindfactory.de, which are the only dealers I will purchase from.

Fantastic way to get explored since for 280 euro cheaper you can get an extremely superior rig
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€325.40 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€78.05 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€126.74 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€52.10 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  (€663.84 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  (€55.93 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
Total: €1382.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-20 20:52 CET+0100

 

I'll rethink the case...PSU and OS price isn't specified however. +200€? (Yes, W7 is 150€.)

 

EDIT: Yea, and the monitor. Why the 1080 though if I can get the 1060 for half the price?

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4 minutes ago, Bang said:

You forgot that he included a screen in the price " Asus PA238QR 23" 1920x1080 "

+ is he acceptable to change the case?

There still is 220 euros left in budget to get a 2560x1080p panel

He can have whatever case he wants the whole point of building a PC is putting what you like together ALLIED to the best cost to performance you can put together.

 

When we give a build suggestion is not for him to blindly do it, but rather expand his horizon of possibilities and combinations.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Is there any relevance to plug n play or XMP DIMM's if I can manually set the clock speed? These are the sticks im going with. Kingston HyperX HX421C14FBK2/8

 

Rest of the build:

 

i5-6400

Asus Z170-P

EVGA 1060 3GB no oc, single acx

HyperX Fury 120GB SSD

WD Black Series 7.2k rpm 1TB

Asus DRW-24D5MT DVD writer

EVGA SuperNOVA G2 80+ Gold 550W

ASUS PA238QR Full HD 60hz

Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit SB/OEM

Fractal Core 2500

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