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CatXice
By CatXice
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so with ryzen round the corner and all this hype i just wanted to say somthing about it and let u make your own mind up on it.

dont you think a company as big as intel dont know the performance of ryzen? have someone "on the inside" they have the money to bribe people and when your life is making and selling cpu's and theres a new kid on the block wouldnt you want to know everything u can by what ever means?

 

kaby lake release 2months before ryzen and kaby is made by a company (intel) with much much better information then amd on making a good cpu (not a dig just a fact) convenient? therefore then can make a better cpu faster then amd can 

kaby (in the uk at least) 7600k is cheaper then a 6600k convenient?

both things to me at least say ryzen might not be half bad (cue ever 1 going nut about ryzen being a competitor)

on the other side kaby is 5-10% better then sky u know like every new cpu line for like last 4 years while intel had the market to them self.... $h!t ryzen might be for the guys who cant afford kaby then?

 

all am saying is intel will know what ryzen is and what its bring to the table and they have the tools and money and information to push out a new cpu line much faster then amd can and match or better it dont u think they will of? was kaby lake the thing to do it or as rummer-ed "cannonlake" going to leave amd back in the changing rooms tryin to work out what they have to do to match intel

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Jesus Christ people. There has been at least 6 of these posts within 4 hours. WAIT 9 days. 9!!! ONLY NINE. 

did u even read it am tryin to stop people cryin when ryzen dosnt perform 

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Jesus Christ people. There has been at least 6 of these posts within 4 hours. WAIT 9 days. 9!!! ONLY NINE. 

Are you a facist dictator by any chance?

idk

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2 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

Are you a facist dictator by any chance?

No he isn't, but it gets a little frustrating after a while... Nothing can stop the hype train! 

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1 minute ago, Aelar_Nailo said:

No he isn't, but it gets a little frustrating after a while... Nothing can stop the hype train!

i just did muahahahhaa

 

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3 minutes ago, CatXice said:

did u even read it am tryin to stop people cryin when ryzen dosnt perform 

Right I get that. I guess it wasn't targeted directed towards you but others are trying to make builds and asking if they should sell everything when we have nothing to factually base the performance off of. 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Right I get that. I guess it wasn't targeted directed towards you but others are trying to make builds and asking if they should sell everything when we have nothing to factually base the performance off of. 

my point thank you

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i just did muahahahhaa

 

Not really, just sidetracked it temporarily. Think of the Ryzen hype train as a tsunami, and your efforts as a 4 foot sandbag wall. 

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1 minute ago, Aelar_Nailo said:

Not really, just sidetracked it temporarily. Think of the Ryzen hype train as a tsunami, and your efforts as a 4 foot sandbag wall. 

:-(

keep commenting keep the post at the top of the list and kill the train :D wooooooo

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Oh boy, another Ryzen speculation thread.

 

Just a few things regarding your post:

 

-Intel isn't better at "making CPUs" than AMD. There's no actual evidence to support that.

-Intel doesn't magically spit out new products when they feel like it. It takes time.

-Kaby Lake isn't 5-10% faster than Skylake. It has the same IPC with higher clocks. That's about it.

-Analysts and Intel engineers have already stated that Ryzen will be "clearly competitive".

 

But you're right in saying that Intel has a good idea of how Ryzen will perform. The only people who know nearly just as much as AMD about Ryzen is Intel themselves.

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1 minute ago, HKZeroFive said:

Oh boy, another Ryzen speculation thread.

 

Just a few things regarding your post:

 

-Intel isn't better at "making CPUs" than AMD. There's no actual evidence to support that.

-Intel doesn't magically spit out new products when they feel like it. It takes time.

-Kaby Lake isn't 5-10% faster than Skylake. It has the same IPC with higher clocks. That's about it.

-Analysts and Intel engineers have already stated that Ryzen will be "clearly competitive".

 

But you're right in saying that Intel has a good idea of how Ryzen will perform. The only people who know nearly just as much as AMD about Ryzen is Intel themselves.

they had the market to them self for 4years dont u think they will have made a better cpu then release the "old one" ie release kaby now while the next cpu is half way made in the same way Mercedes should have a better car then any1 else in f1 due to being able to start developing earlier then the rest (not sayin they will but they should) 

and as for intel being better then amd.... due the market and bench marks show they are better u know coz almost all intel sky kick the ass out of a am3 cpu that to me says intel are better

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4 minutes ago, CatXice said:

they had the market to them self for 4years dont u think they will have made a better cpu then release the "old one" ie release kaby now while the next cpu is half way made in the same way Mercedes should have a better car then any1 else in f1 due to being able to start developing earlier then the rest (not sayin they will but they should) 

Trust me, we've hit a hard wall when it comes to IPC. Intel themselves have said that their processors will not be focussed on performance but rather on efficiency. If Intel could make a processor that destroys Kaby Lake in single threaded applications, that would be a miracle in itself.

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and as for intel being better then amd.... due the market and bench marks show they are better u know coz almost all intel sky kick the ass out of a am3 cpu that to me says intel are better

That still doesn't mean that AMD is worse than making CPUs than Intel. They simply bet on the wrong architecture and lost. As for marketshare, that's not an accurate depiction of who is better. Never has been.

 

Like I said, no actual evidence that says Intel is better than making CPUs than AMD. They've made many terrible processors in the past (Pentium 4 is a prime example).

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Trust me, we've hit a hard wall when it comes to IPC. Intel themselves have said that their processors will not be focussed on performance but rather on efficiency. If Intel could make a processor that destroys Kaby Lake in single threaded applications, that would be a miracle in itself.

That still doesn't mean that AMD is worse than making CPUs than Intel. They simply bet on the wrong architecture and lost. As for marketshare, that's not an accurate depiction of who is better. Never has been.

 

Like I said, no actual evidence that says Intel is better than making CPUs than AMD. They've made many terrible processors in the past (Pentium 4 is a prime example).

by what your saying fiat makes just as fast a car as Porsche? 

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1 minute ago, CatXice said:

by what your saying fiat makes just as fast a car as Porsche? 

They could, given the correct design and internal components. The reason why AMD is getting all this hype and praise about Ryzen is because they've completely scrapped Bulldozer together and they've started integrating similar aspects of Intel's own architecture into theirs, allowing for this supposed "40% increase in IPC".

 

There's no evidence that says AMD can't make a processor as good as Intel's. Anyone who says otherwise is stating an opinion, not a fact.

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They could, given the correct design and internal components. The reason why AMD is getting all this hype and praise about Ryzen is because they've completely scrapped Bulldozer together and they've started integrating similar aspects of Intel's own architecture into theirs, allowing for this supposed "40% increase in IPC".

 

There's no evidence that says AMD can't make a processor as good as Intel's. Anyone who says otherwise is stating an opinion, not a fact.

1 thing being given the tools to make it and a diagram another making the tools and making the diagram 

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1 thing being given the tools to make it and a diagram another making the tools and making the diagram 

I meant more of the latter for both cases.

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