Scorpio console.

[creepybob]

I JUST got a gtx 1070 and Microsoft releases details of project scorpio. I realized that they where marketing to the pc master race in the advertisement for it, saying stuff like "6 teraflops of computing power", stuff that only a pc gamer would understand. i just wanted to know how scorpio would compare to my pc because i just spent a lot of money on it.

[DocSwag]

Probably considerably worse. The 6 teraflops is most likely on a Polaris GPU so the performance would probably be similar to an rx 480. Teraflops don't mean anything unless you're comparing two GPUs based on the same architecture.

[Techicolors]

we still don't know much about project scorpio, other than the ESRAM and the "road to 4K" methodology MS is planning 

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-the-race-to-4k-how-scorpio-targets-ultra-hd-gaming

 

i think it was confirmed that an infodump of sorts is planned in E3 this year 

i wouldn't worry too much though, because Xbox Play Anywhere is a huge possibility going forward

[Atmos]

Terraflops on gpus is the marketing equivalent of DPI in mice.

Can it indicate a strong performing gpu? Oh, hell yeah.

Should it actually be used as a metric for comparison between two products? Oh, hell no.

Just like DPI ratings on mouse packaging you should pretty much ignore it entirely and look at actual real-world performance metrics.

 

From the very little we do actually know for sure, it will likely fall into a mid-ranged gaming computer range. Though... considering that microsoft is marketing it as a "Premium" product, it will likely cost just about as much as one of those gaming rigs, if only a touch less.

[Shiv78]

6 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Probably considerably worse. The 6 teraflops is most likely on a Polaris GPU so the performance would probably be similar to an rx 480. Teraflops don't mean anything unless you're comparing two GPUs based on the same architecture.

Yup. Since the 480 is around 5.8 Tflops, it will likely be some form of Polaris-based APU with maybe 4 Ryzen cores

[creepybob]

1 minute ago, Atmos said:

Terraflops on gpus is the marketing equivalent of DPI in mice.

Can it indicate a strong performing gpu? Oh, hell yeah.

Should it actually be used as a metric for comparison between two products? Oh, hell no.

 

From the very we do actually know for sure, it will likely fall into a mid-ranged gaming computer range. Though... considering that microsoft is marketing it as a "Premium" product, it will likely cost just about as much as one of those gaming rigs, if only a touch less.

I said STUFF LIKE teraflops

[Scruffy90]

I'm not expecting it to be a true 4k consoles and closer to what the ps4 pro does. Even AMD's most expensive CPU/GPU have only recently crossed the playable 4k threshold.

 

Unless they make this thing dirt cheap, I wouldn't even bat an eye.

[Atmos]

1 minute ago, creepybob said:

I said STUFF LIKE teraflops

And?

That doesn't change anything I said. The only real thing microsoft has been saying about the performance is vague mumblings of 4k and a rough 6 teraflops of performance, which mean virtually nothing.

[Droidbot]

I expect 4k30 with drops to 15, as expected for a console

[Atmos]

6 minutes ago, creepybob said:

I said STUFF LIKE teraflops

If you're still concerned about how it will perform compared to your machine, then don't worry.

Unless microsoft pulls a 1080 degree turn out of their asshole and releases the scorpio at around $999.99, then it won't even come close to what your 1070 rigged machine can manage.

[Scruffy90]

8 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

I expect 4k30 with drops to 15, as expected for a console

Even that's expecting a lot.

[Droidbot]

7 minutes ago, Scruffy90 said:

Even that's expecting a lot.

480 can handle it when paired with an i5 6400, so I guess it's a maybe. It's got 12GB RAM, confirmed by MS, so maybe 4GB system 8GB video?

[Shiv78]

3 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

480 can handle it when paired with an i5 6400, so I guess it's a maybe. It's got 12GB RAM, confirmed by MS, so maybe 4GB system 8GB video?

Maybe. But I think it will be real 4K, not PS4 Pro bullshit. The FPS will probably range from 30-45 in some games with drops to like 20 or less

[tatte]

3 hours ago, creepybob said:

saying stuff like "6 teraflops of computing power", stuff that only a pc gamer would understand. i just wanted to know how scorpio would compare to my pc

But... but... you're a pc gamer, shouldn't you understand that stuff, why are you asking us?

[SteveGrabowski0]

On 2/19/2017 at 6:13 PM, creepybob said:

I JUST got a gtx 1070 and Microsoft releases details of project scorpio. I realized that they where marketing to the pc master race in the advertisement for it, saying stuff like "6 teraflops of computing power", stuff that only a pc gamer would understand. i just wanted to know how scorpio would compare to my pc because i just spent a lot of money on it.

Scorpio is going to use a piece of shit Jaguar cpu just like XBone, PoorStation 4, and PoorStation 4 Pro, so it's going to be a 30 fps gaming system. So your PC with an i5 and a GTX 1070 is far superior. Scorpio won't be in the same ballpark because of the massive cpu bottleneck. I doubt the gpu will stack up well to the 1070 also.

[Mira Yurizaki]

On 2/19/2017 at 4:20 PM, Atmos said:

Terraflops on gpus is the marketing equivalent of DPI in mice.

Can it indicate a strong performing gpu? Oh, hell yeah.

Should it actually be used as a metric for comparison between two products? Oh, hell no.

Just like DPI ratings on mouse packaging you should pretty much ignore it entirely and look at actual real-world performance metrics.

To add to this...

 

The GTX 1060 6GB is rated for ~3.5 TFLOPS of FP32 performance. The RX 480 8GB is rated for ~5 TFLOPS of FP32 performance. So how come the RX 480 isn't killing the GTX 1060?