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Im building a PC, it will be used for gaming, editing videos, and maybe streaming.  The game I will be playing mainly is World of Warcraft.  Im planning on starting a youtube channel also.  The build is water cooled (CPU/GPU/(mobo?) and I will probably overclock.  The CPU's im deciding between are the i7700k and the i76850k (quad vs hex core).  Im stuck between the two choices and im having lots of trouble deciding.  I know lots of content creators use the 7700k to stream, game, edit, and are fine but would I be better or worse off with a hex core?  Please let me know if you have any advice, much appreciated :)!

 

 

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12 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

get a midrange a 6800k, i suggest you wait for ryzen. 

Definitely wait for Ryzen because Ryzen's gonna be great.

 

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CPU: i5-4260u

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the standard 4 core i7 will be fine for u get the 6 if u can afford it but its overkill

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Forgot to mention, im running 2-3 monitors but only gaming on the middle one (4k).  The other one-two are 1080P.  I would like to be able to record or stream while gaming, mainly wow, while still keeping very high frame rates.  I realize either CPU will work but the more frames and smoother performance is what im going for.  Thanks

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1 minute ago, PCbuilderJR said:

Forgot to mention, im running 2-3 monitors but only gaming on the middle one (4k).  The other one-two are 1080P.  I would like to be able to record or stream while gaming, mainly wow, while still keeping very high frame rates.  I realize either CPU will work but the more frames and smoother performance is what im going for.  Thanks

Then get a 6800k. 

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Honestly I would wait for Ryzen. If you need it right now I would get the 6800K unless you are running SLI then the 6850K

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Why?  I thought the 7700k would be more than enough for my purposes?

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18 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Honestly I would wait for Ryzen. If you need it right now I would get the 6800K unless you are running SLI then the 6850K

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT 

 

LIKE 14 DAYS DUDE PLZ WAIT

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I would strongly suggest waiting a bit.

Ryzen is only a few weeks away and might launch better options than the cpu's that are already suggested :P

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2 minutes ago, CODboyX said:

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT 

 

LIKE 14 DAYS DUDE PLZ WAIT

Why?  I know the ryzen is coming out but the only thing it would most likely bring would be worse or the same performance as an intel at a lower price correct?  I would normally wait and same money but I need the computer for work and I have a job before then.  People are really going crazy over Ryzen, I though AMD generally brought cheap processors with many (but weak) cores? 

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The 7700k should be enough but won't be the best ever, the 6850k would be the sweetest spot but it is more expensive... I would advise you waiting for Ryzen because their 8c/16t CPUs might prove to be the best course of action.

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i managed to do some recordings of WOW on an i3 540, shouldnt be too much of a hassle for a 7700k.

 

that said, i REALLY like recommending a dual-pc setup for stuff like this, its great to have an entire cpu to waste on encoding, and have it not impact your gaming experience.

then again, if you can go 3500Kbps livestream, you can just flip it to nvenc and let nvidia figure it out.

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Building a PC used for playing WoW, streaming, recording, and editing the videos.  Basically starting a youtube channel.  I am gaming on a 4k monitor and would like high frame rates while I stream and record.  I am stuck between the 7700k and 6850k, I know I have posted this thread a couple times but people keep leaving frustrating 3 word replies like "Get the 7700k" or "Get the 6800k" so id appreciate an explanation.  I have never built a PC before.  Im water cooling and maybe overclocking the CPU/GPU and only running one GPU, most likely will never will run in SLI.  I also realize that ryzen is coming out but I need the computer before then for work.  Thanks for any replies.

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Ok people, I understand, ryzen, wait for ryzen, ryzen rules all, I need my PC before then though....Just looking for the BEST option in the CURRENT situation.

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9 minutes ago, PCbuilderJR said:

Why?  I know the ryzen is coming out but the only thing it would most likely bring would be worse or the same performance as an intel at a lower price correct?  I would normally wait and same money but I need the computer for work and I have a job before then.  People are really going crazy over Ryzen, I though AMD generally brought cheap processors with many (but weak) cores? 

Ryzen is different and could potentially drive prices down on Intel's side

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15 minutes ago, PCbuilderJR said:

Ok people, I understand, ryzen, wait for ryzen, ryzen rules all, I need my PC before then though....Just looking for the BEST option in the CURRENT situation.

In that case the BEST option is the 6850k.

The issue is that the price/performance is complete trash.

You pay imo waaay to much for what you get. Especially because ryzen (yea i know no ryzen) will give you very likely much better options price/performance wise.

 

To give you an idea, it's actually not insane that there might be a ryzen cpu that costs as much as a 7700k and delivers the performance of a 6850k. At least if the rumors are somewhat right. That's how big of a possible gap we are speaking of atm. And that's ignoring the insane premium you pay for a x99 board.

 

What i personally would do is get a 7700k and use the gpu to encode the stream/recording.

 

Just to make sure, what exactly is "before ryzen"? 

If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3

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I am actually curious. Wouldn't the 7500 work just as well and you save some money?

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If rumour is anything to go by Ryzen are between half price and a third price of it's Intel counterpart. The 6700k or 7700k are more then enough to stream WoW (especially if you overclock, I have done it myself), but frame rates will suffer in Raids or PvP especially now that the graphics engine was further tweaked in Legion. As samcool55 said something with 6 or 8 cores (my old fx-8370 was amazing for streaming/multitasking) is much better, hence Ryzen :)  

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You'll get the same reply that you got in your other thread, 6850k for streaming.

 

"If rumour is anything to go by Ryzen are between half price and a third price of it's Intel counterpart. The 6700k or 7700k are more then enough to stream WoW (especially if you overclock, I have done it myself), but frame rates will suffer in Raids or PvP especially now that the graphics engine was further tweaked in Legion. As samcool55 said something with 6 or 8 cores (my old fx-8370 was amazing for streaming/multitasking) is much better, hence Ryzen :)"

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12 minutes ago, Kenrou said:

You'll get the same reply that you got in your other thread, 6850k for streaming.

 

"If rumour is anything to go by Ryzen are between half price and a third price of it's Intel counterpart. The 6700k or 7700k are more then enough to stream WoW (especially if you overclock, I have done it myself), but frame rates will suffer in Raids or PvP especially now that the graphics engine was further tweaked in Legion. As samcool55 said something with 6 or 8 cores (my old fx-8370 was amazing for streaming/multitasking) is much better, hence Ryzen :)"

What about performance without streaming?  Pure frame rate etc?  If I want to play WoW at 4k on a single monitor without multi-tasking then is the 6850k or another 6 core like the Ryzen still better?

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