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while i was browsing for NVMe M.2 SSDs,

i have seen many with diffrent configurations like nand, mlc, tlc

 

which is the fastest NVMe M.2 SSD available as of now (17th Feb 2017) and how to find by its specs..

 

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4 minutes ago, PRATAP KUMAR PANABAKA said:

which is the fastest NVMe M.2 SSD available as of now (17th Feb 2017) and how to find by its specs..

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edit: there are probably faster ones, but they are beyond what you would find in any consumer market. The best nvme consumer SSD right now is 960 pro

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SAMSUNG 960 pro hands down the fastest. I was lucky enough to save up and get one 2TB version. It's amazing!

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In the consumer market its basically

 

960 Pro > SM961 > 960 Evo

 

Right now Samsung are pretty much dominating performance charts.

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2 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

In the consumer market its basically

 

960 Pro > SM961 > 960 Evo

 

Right now Samsung are pretty much dominating performance charts.

yup, i'm running SM961's in my precision fleet, they are badass drives, never had hands on experience with a 960 pro though

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I have this SSD ad my boot drive and I want another one to use it as my Steam Library!

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1 hour ago, Ryois said:

I have this SSD ad my boot drive and I want another one to use it as my Steam Library!

i've not heard great things about running games off NVME drives, i don't think many games will even take advantage of the extra speed. I have my steamlibrary installed on RAID0 SATA SSD's which is far cheaper and effectively just as fast for loading games. It's so hard to justify buying an NVME drive and not putting your OS on it.

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2 hours ago, DnFx91 said:

i've not heard great things about running games off NVME drives, i don't think many games will even take advantage of the extra speed. I have my steamlibrary installed on RAID0 SATA SSD's which is far cheaper and effectively just as fast for loading games. It's so hard to justify buying an NVME drive and not putting your OS on it.

I'd argue the exact other way. Why have your OS taking up your precious space on your NVMe drive. Use a cheaper SATA hard drive, or better yet get a good hard drive and set up Intel SRT (if you're on a Windows machine with Intel i series 6/7th gen) and/or bcache (if you're on Linux) with your NVMe drive.

 

Edit: hell, you can use the SRT/bcache option on a SATA SSD with your NVMe drive too if you really really really need your OS to boot in 1/4 second.

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4 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

I'd argue the exact other way. Why have your OS taking up your precious space on your NVMe drive. Use a cheaper SATA hard drive, or better yet get a good hard drive and set up Intel SRT (if you're on a Windows machine with Intel i series 6/7th gen) and/or bcache (if you're on Linux) with your NVMe drive.

 

Hi, i am planning to install OS on 256 GB 960PRO with 40GB capacity as C Drive and Remaining for DATA

is it a bad idea to use NVMe M.2 as a boot drive plus storage?

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1 minute ago, PRATAP KUMAR PANABAKA said:

 

Hi, i am planning to install OS on 256 GB 960PRO with 40GB capacity as C Drive and Remaining for DATA

is it a bad idea to use NVMe M.2 as a boot drive plus storage?

Not at all. An NVME drive makes perfect sense as a boot drive if it's your only drive.

 

It's just a little bit of a waste to install your OS on it if you have other drives available, because if you're using the 960 pro for things that will actually take advantage of the speed (8K UltraHD video editing for example) then it can come in handy to have the extra 30some GB your OS takes up.

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27 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Not at all. An NVME drive makes perfect sense as a boot drive if it's your only drive.

 

It's just a little bit of a waste to install your OS on it if you have other drives available, because if you're using the 960 pro for things that will actually take advantage of the speed (8K UltraHD video editing for example) then it can come in handy to have the extra 30some GB your OS takes up.

must be a perspective/use case situation, i'd argue that windows should be on the fastest media possible for dat sweet system responsiveness. Do you have any examples of games actually maxing out an NVME drive during loading ? I've tested my RAID SATAs against my HDD before loading big games and they are almost exactly the same, but the RAID has double the bandwidth available to it.

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Userbenchmark.com  I typically will use this and sort through the products to find the highest performers. 

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Are you handling large files regularly? If not, then opt for a Samsung SATA drive. You'll save a lot of money. NVMe drives handle large files at lightning fast speeds, but the improvement in reading small files is negligible compared to the cost. Small files are what affect Windows performance, as well as most programs. 

 

NVMe drives have their place, but you should know what you're paying for. I see a lot of people upgrading from SATA SSD's to NVMe ones, only to be incredibly disappointed by the lack of performance boost in daily usage. 

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1 minute ago, DnFx91 said:

must be a perspective/use case situation, i'd argue that windows should be on the fastest media possible for dat sweet system responsiveness. Do you have any examples of games actually maxing out an NVME drive during loading ? I've tested my RAID SATAs against my HDD before loading big games and they are almost exactly the same, but the RAID has double the bandwidth available to it.

Games? Nah. Honestly a 960 pro is *MASSIVE* overkill for just gaming. Heck a 960 Evo is massive overkill.

 

Games are typically more overhead limited than storage limited. There are tasks that will easily cap out a 960 pro though. 8K video editing is one, live sensor data recording is another, and large scale simulation is another. Not stuff Joe average consumer would use it for obvs.

 

That being said, SRT/BCache is a great option even if you're not capping out your SSDs transfer. Even if your 960 pro is the max size that only gives you 2TB of space at the cost of 1.5 grand. A Wester Digital black is ~300 bucks for 6GB and will give you great performance with a decent amount of cache. If you're worried about write speed you can set BCache to write back mode or SRT to "Maximized Acceleration Mode" which is a write back cache mode.

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2 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Games? Nah. Honestly a 960 pro is *MASSIVE* overkill for just gaming. Heck a 960 Evo is massive overkill.

 

Games are typically more overhead limited than storage limited. There are tasks that will easily cap out a 960 pro though. 8K video editing is one, live sensor data recording is another, and large scale simulation is another. Not stuff Joe average consumer would use it for obvs.

 

That being said, SRT/BCache is a great option even if you're not capping out your SSDs transfer. Even if your 960 pro is the max size that only gives you 2TB of space at the cost of 1.5 grand. A Wester Digital black is ~300 bucks for 6GB and will give you great performance with a decent amount of cache. If you're worried about write speed you can set BCache to write back mode or SRT to "Maximized Acceleration Mode" which is a write back cache mode.

yeah that makes sense, im fortunate in not needing ludicrous-speed storage for things like that, raises a question though why games are almost capped to a certain loading speed, it's not all games in fairness, for example Just Cause 3 can definitely saturate my RAID SATAs, puts both drives at 100% during loading and gets the job done in a tenth the time a HDD would take, but other games don't even see the extra speed. 

 

With all the money in the world i would have a separate NVME drive for every type of data i have on my PC, but yeah lol........ about that

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On 2/17/2017 at 7:54 AM, DnFx91 said:

i've not heard great things about running games off NVME drives, i don't think many games will even take advantage of the extra speed. I have my steamlibrary installed on RAID0 SATA SSD's which is far cheaper and effectively just as fast for loading games. It's so hard to justify buying an NVME drive and not putting your OS on it.

I stored Rocket Leauge on HDD once and NVMe Drive and to me the NVMe started up faster but I like to keep it on NVMe so when Steam Updates yay steam updates it goes faster

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