For honor benchmarks, 45 GPUs tested

[Princess Luna]

9 hours ago, DocSwag said:

There are people that bought 1070s to replace 980 TIs?!?

I got my Titan X from a person who replaced a Titan X SLI for a 1080 SLI thinking it was needed for 4k, He might have lost a good money for the exact same performance but at least I got a great deal on my GPU [:

[Morgan MLGman]

@kiska3 I did post benchmarks of For Honor earlier, use the search option before posting, those are from another review but since the For Honor benchmarks thread was done already you should've just added those as a reply imho.

 

It's from another review, have a look:

 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

8 hours ago, MageTank said:

Odd, I am, seeing the exact opposite results. I even have my 1070 clocked at 2050, and a 980 Ti clocked at 1400 (not 1440 like yours, but close enough) sitting in the machine behind me. The 1070 wins in nearly every title, even if only by 1-2 FPS. Granted, we can probably blame this on Nvidia's notorious forced obsoletion, but it's still ahead in every single one of my tests. I also have a 1070 that does 2228, but that thing seems to be a golden bin. Unfair to compare that against this 980 Ti (even though it's an MSI Golden Edition

i'.m sorry but i really don't believe you...the 980ti was noticeably and i mean noticeably like smoother faster stronger with better minimum and average FPS both in benchmarks (i tested unigine heaven and 3d mark firestrike) and in games (i test Battlefield 1 and watchdgos 2) in benchmarks my 980ti was ahead by roughly 5% but in games it was even more noticeable with the performance difference ranging from 8 to 10FPS on average and the rendering for some reason was feeling less smooth i believe the GTX 1070 is memory bandwidth limited and also there are much less cuda cores on it and it simply feel like the 980ti has more grunt and is simply a faster card.

[kiska3]

28 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

@kiska3 I did post benchmarks of For Honor earlier, use the search option before posting, those are from another review but since the For Honor benchmarks thread was done already you should've just added those as a reply imho.

 

It's from another review, have a look:

 

 

I had a browse of 2 pages of this subforum and I didn't find it. So I posted it, sorry if I didn't see the thread.

[Clanscorpia]

7 hours ago, Prysin said:

networking and latency issues

*shudders intensely* 

[Dackzy]

Okay so I can almost play this at max settings 1080p 60fps. Too bad 1080p looks nasty, but I should be able to play it at 1440p mid settings.

[Bouzoo]

People saying this is a first well optimised Ubi game. As far as I can remember, the PoP trilogy and AC Ezio Trilogy were butter smooth. Mind you I don't remember FC3 was bad as well.

[Morgan MLGman]

20 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

I had a browse of 2 pages of this subforum and I didn't find it. So I posted it, sorry if I didn't see the thread.

Nah, you wouldn't find it cause I posted it in "Graphics Cards" subforum A mod can merge those threads so it's nothing big, just a FYI for the future that just use the search box cause it's easier than browsing subforums manually

[kiska3]

14 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Nah, you wouldn't find it cause I posted it in "Graphics Cards" subforum A mod can merge those threads so it's nothing big, just a FYI for the future that just use the search box cause it's easier than browsing subforums manually

I thought just out of interest I just did

Spoiler

 

[kiska3]

24 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

People saying this is a first well optimised Ubi game. As far as I can remember, the PoP trilogy and AC Ezio Trilogy were butter smooth. Mind you I don't remember FC3 was bad as well.

I think what people meant was, it is a well optimised Ubi game in the last few years or so.

Remember the disaster that was AC Unity?

[Morgan MLGman]

5 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

I thought just out of interest I just did

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Check this out:

 

 

works as intended

[JoeCoke]

Damn, just look at how competitive AMD was with the 200 series. Hopefully Vega brings that back. The 280x and 290x are beasts!

[VerticalDiscussions]

Gtx 770 > Gtx 680.

 

I remember seeing on a review back in 2013, a statement implying that the Gtx 770 was a Gtx 680 on "steroids", regardless if stock clocks from Nvidia or alternative retailers with oced gpus like Evga, Gigabyte, etc.

 

I agree with huilun02, this make no sense at all!

[RagnarokDel]

12 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Yes Nvidia sure made it look like they were amazingly better 

VR is the only time the 1070 outclasses the 980 TI properly.

[Morgan MLGman]

3 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

I got my Titan X from a person who replaced a Titan X SLI for a 1080 SLI thinking it was needed for 4k, He might have lost a good money for the exact same performance but at least I got a great deal on my GPU [:

Well, I wouldn't say a Titan XM has the exact same performance as a 1080 since the Titan XM is basically as fast as the 1070.

[MageTank]

2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

i'.m sorry but i really don't believe you...the 980ti was noticeably and i mean noticeably like smoother faster stronger with better minimum and average FPS both in benchmarks (i tested unigine heaven and 3d mark firestrike) and in games (i test Battlefield 1 and watchdgos 2) in benchmarks my 980ti was ahead by roughly 5% but in games it was even more noticeable with the performance difference ranging from 8 to 10FPS on average and the rendering for some reason was feeling less smooth i believe the GTX 1070 is memory bandwidth limited and also there are much less cuda cores on it and it simply feel like the 980ti has more grunt and is simply a faster card.

Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant. I am simply stating what my personal tests have shown me. I still have both the 1070 and 980 Ti on hand, so if you'd like me to run a few benchmarks, I can do so.

 

Also, the 1070 is nowhere near bandwidth limited. In none of my tests at 1440p, even with copious amounts of AA, was I even close to running out of bandwidth. With a subtle memory overclock of 500mhz (Micron IC's, they suck), my bandwidth is at 288.3GB/s. The stock 980 Ti is 336GB/s. Factor in Pascal's DCC 4.0, and you see that you require 20% less bandwidth than an equivalent Maxwell card.

 

My point is, the 1070 is not a viable upgrade to the 980 Ti, as it's only slightly faster (1-2 fps) at best, and you can often find 980 Ti's cheaper now. However, in my tests, It's certainly not slower, and definitely not by the 8-10fps you are claiming. If you still want to continue with this, post your benches and I'll post mine. 

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Well, I wouldn't say a Titan XM has the exact same performance as a 1080 since the Titan XM is basically as fast as the 1070.

Apply OC properly and see magic happen [:

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Apply OC properly and see magic happen [:

Only magic I see happening in that video, is a CPU bottleneck. Look at that 60% usage on both the 1080's, vs the 90% usage on the Titan X's. Those poor 1080's are starving.

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Apply OC properly and see magic happen [:

A reference Titan XM gets outperformed by an OC'd out of the box 980Ti, this has been proven by many sites when they tested the 980Ti G1 Gaming for example against the Titan.

 

Of course, you can overclock it but the inferior cooler limits OC capabilities... Sadly, a faster chip with a worse cooler loses to a cut-down version of the same chip but overclocked cause of a much better cooling solution.

 

2 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Only magic I see happening in that video, is a CPU bottleneck. Look at that 60% usage on both the 1080's, vs the 90% usage on the Titan X's. Those poor 1080's are starving.

And this ^ Seeing how the GPU usage is lower on the 1080's it means that they're faster.

 

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-Titan-X/3603vs3282

35% difference on average

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, MageTank said:

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3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

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fair enough, 4k to reduce CPU bottleneck:

still too close to ever justify an upgrade.
Why are you discussing 980ti vs Oem Titan X any ways, this was about how who has a high end Maxwell doesnt need to go Pascal just yet.

 

I got my Titan X [evga sc] to the 1571 core clock, it performs closer to the stock 1080 than the stock 1070...

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

fair enough, 4k to reduce CPU bottleneck:

still too close to ever justify an upgrade.
Why are you discussing 980ti vs Oem Titan X any ways, this was about how who has a high end Maxwell doesnt need to go Pascal just yet.

 

I got my Titan X [evga sc] to the 1571 core clock, it performs closer to the stock 1080 than the stock 1070...

True, I never said it's worth to upgrade ^^ The TItan XM is still an amazing card, my R9 Fury when OC'd does stock 1070 scores in FireStrike (17300 GPU score), though you can overclock a 1070 and a 1080 as well

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, MageTank said:

My point is, the 1070 is not a viable upgrade to the 980 Ti, as it's only slightly faster (1-2 fps) at best, and you can often find 980 Ti's cheaper now. However, in my tests, It's certainly not slower, and definitely not by the 8-10fps you are claiming. If you still want to continue with this, post your benches and I'll post mine. 

it IS slower...by a very noticeably margin...have you overclocked the VRAM on your 980ti as well? mine was overclocked to 8200mhz from the stock 7000mhz...maybe that's why?!

 

all i can tell you is that GTX 1070 2050mhz/8200mhz is slower than GTX 980ti 1440mhz/8200mhz in heaven, firestrike, BF1 and Watch dogs 2 by anyhwere from 5 to 10FPS on average, consistently, when paired with a 4.2ghz core i7-4770K and DDR3 16GB 1866mhz cas 9 RAM.

 

i KNEW i should have made a video about this but unfortunately i didn't and the machine is in my car right now waiting to be delivered.

[MageTank]

39 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

it IS slower...by a very noticeably margin...have you overclocked the VRAM on your 980ti as well? mine was overclocked to 8200mhz from the stock 7000mhz...maybe that's why?!

 

all i can tell you is that GTX 1070 2050mhz/8200mhz is slower than GTX 980ti 1440mhz/8200mhz in heaven, firestrike, BF1 and Watch dogs 2 by anyhwere from 5 to 10FPS on average, consistently, when paired with a 4.2ghz core i7-4770K and DDR3 16GB 1866mhz cas 9 RAM.

 

i KNEW i should have made a video about this but unfortunately i didn't and the machine is in my car right now waiting to be delivered.

It's fine. I'll get the 980 Ti out of the rig behind me, and run the benchmarks for you. If you turn out to be right, then that is great news for anyone looking for a 1440p card on a budget, as you can get refurbished 980 Ti's for as little as $300. If the 1070 turns out to be faster, then it still won't matter, as the 980 Ti is still cheaper, and the 1070 certainly doesn't beat it by enough of a margin to warrant the $100+ difference in prices.

 

Now, before I begin, we have two options. Either I stuff the 980 Ti into this Node 202 (and risk throttling it due to confined ITX spaces) alongside my 6700k and extremely overclocked ram, or I stuff my 1070 in the 4690k machine behind me, and we simply compare graphics results in 3dmark, and frames against frames in the others. Which do you prefer?

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, MageTank said:

Now, before I begin, we have two options. Either I stuff the 980 Ti into this Node 202 (and risk throttling it due to confined ITX spaces) alongside my 6700k and extremely overclocked ram, or I stuff my 1070 in the 4690k machine behind me, and we simply compare graphics results in 3dmark, and frames against frames in the others. Which do you prefer?

no, get the GTX 1070 and do whatever you can to beat my 980ti OC graphics score and you win

 

i wasn't able to match this score with the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X @ 2050mhz/8204mhz with both sliders maxed out this is my best 1070 run

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17908682

 

i didn't saved the 980ti run link but i posted it on the forum last week:

This is GTX 980ti OC

 

 

[MageTank]

30 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

no, get the GTX 1070 and do whatever you can to beat my 980ti OC graphics score and you win

 

i wasn't able to match this score with the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X @ 2050mhz/8204mhz with both sliders maxed out this is my best 1070 run

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17908682

 

i didn't saved the 980ti run link but i posted it on the forum last week:

This is GTX 980ti OC

 

 

Whatever I can? That seems kinda unfair. Like I said, I have a 1070 that can do 2228, lol. I'll see what I can do with the 2050mhz though. Be back shortly. 

 

BTW, that is a nice score, you are indeed beating most of the 1070's I've seen (which average 19.6k-20.5k)