Microsoft will unveil Xbox Project Scorpio on June 11th

[The Benjamins]

10 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And? That doesn't mean much when you compare the theoretical compute performance of AMD's GPU compared to Nvidia's, and then the actual gaming performance.

The current Xbox is about 1.5 Tflops so this one is 4x faster in GPU performance which is the exact amount needed to go from 1080p to "4k" UHD. The PS4 pro was a 2x-3x improvement.

[GoodBytes]

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[JAKEBAB]

26 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And? That doesn't mean much when you compare the theoretical compute performance of AMD's GPU compared to Nvidia's, and then the actual gaming performance.

Yes but when you compare it to other consoles it does.

[AlTech]

11 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

The current Xbox is about 1.5 Tflops

More specifically, the original Xbox One is 1.3 Tflops (not that it's a good idea to compare Tflops mind you) and the Xbox One S is 1.4 Tflops.

11 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

so this one is 4x faster in GPU performance which is the exact amount needed to go from 1080p to "4k" UHD. The PS4 pro was a 2x-3x improvement.

Which begs the question of what the specs for the Xbox Scorpio are. All of performance metrics here use tflops.

 

Making the jump from 768 SPs to 4096 SPs (rumoured) would yield a 533% performance improvement.

 

Presumably 600% - 533% = 77% of performance left to account for.

 

Let's assume the clockspeed improvements from 853 to 914MHz accounts for 7% more performance.

 

Let's assume the memory bandwidth goes from the current 68GB/s to 512GB/s which should provide a performance boost.

 

 

Of course there's another argument to be made which could suggest a 1266MHz 2304 SP Polaris 12 (rumoured) based GPU.

[Dabombinable]

36 minutes ago, JAKEBAB said:

Yes but when you compare it to other consoles it does.

The only other console with a comparable APU, has the exact same APU at a higher clock speed....ergo the terraflops and performance almost match perfectly-and would at the same clock speed..

[Prysin]

4 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

This is kinda unrelated but they introduced an optional boost mode for OG PS4 which basically applies a 10-20% overclock.

for the OG?  AFAIK, its only for the PS4 Pro. I dont have the 4.5 update yet, but 4.07 has no such feature.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, Dabombinable said:

The only other console with a comparable APU, has the exact same APU at a higher clock speed....ergo the terraflops and performance almost match perfectly-and would at the same clock speed..

Got any other insightful obvious information that we obviously knew?

 

2 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

The current Xbox is about 1.5 Tflops so this one is 4x faster in GPU performance which is the exact amount needed to go from 1080p to "4k" UHD. The PS4 pro was a 2x-3x improvement.

OG Xbox 1.31 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2086/xbox-one-gpu

"new" Xbox 1.403 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2866/xbox-one-s-gpu

OG PS4  1.843 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2085/playstation-4-gpu

PS4 Pro  4.198 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2876/playstation-4-pro-gpu

 

Most likely comparable product that is inside the Nintendo Switch:

Nvidia 920Mx   0.548 TFlops..... https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2826/geforce-920mx

 

Yeah... Let us just say, whatever Nintendo does with the Switch, there is going to be quite a lot of work to be done to run any 4k game on it. Outside of pixel art.

[AlTech]

11 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

The only other console with a comparable APU, has the exact same APU at a higher clock speed....ergo the terraflops and performance almost match perfectly-and would at the same clock speed..

No it doesn't. This dead horse has been beaten to death so many damn times.

 

The Xbox One has a 768 SP GPU whilst the PS4 uses a 1152 SP GPU.

[AlTech]

9 hours ago, Prysin said:

Got any other insightful obvious information that we obviously knew?

 

OG Xbox 1.31 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2086/xbox-one-gpu

"new" Xbox 1.403 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2866/xbox-one-s-gpu

This is due to having a higher gpu core clockspeed.

9 hours ago, Prysin said:

PS4 Pro  4.198 TFlops  https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2876/playstation-4-pro-gpu

Using an underclocked RX 480...

9 hours ago, Prysin said:

Most likely comparable product that is inside the Nintendo Switch:

Nvidia 920Mx   0.548 TFlops..... https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2826/geforce-920mx

Look for Tegra X1 numbers instead