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I am so sick of that orange and RGB

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Why does Luke look so angry? Reminds me of him:

 



 

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when you think this is the new floatplane video only to realize its not :(

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1 minute ago, 21rkosta said:

when you think this is the new floatplane video only to realize its not :(

Soon!!! (TM)

 

Still having issues, hoping to have everything resolved very soon... The good news is that you guys probably get 2 videos over there today :P

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2 minutes ago, 21rkosta said:

when you think this is the new floatplane video only to realize its not :(

Should've stuck to normal youtube. :P

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5 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Soon!!! (TM)

 

Still having issues, hoping to have everything resolved very soon... The good news is that you guys probably get 2 videos over there today :P

Something happen today? can't help but notice how far past target release time we are.

 

also did you just try to TM Soon, I think DirecTV Now might sue, that's there line when asked when features are coming.

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12 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I am so sick of that orange and RGB

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Just like Zotac man. "Here's a GPU with RGB lighting! Just ignore the bands of yellow on the backplate!"

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3 minutes ago, Daniel644 said:

Something happen today? can't help but notice how far past target release time we are.

 

also did you just try to TM Soon, I think DirecTV Now might sue, that's there line when asked when features are coming.

Soon (TM) is just a meme as far as I know... can apply to anyone (Valve HL3 Soon! (TM)), just thought it was funny.

 

This week is a short week for us here in Canada (we were out Monday), we're still getting used to handling RED footage, and we're training 4 new people here in office... So it's a bit of an odd time, and unfortunately it's causing some issues.

 

But we'll be much better for it once we get everything figured out :D can't wait to see where we're at in a month or two...

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Glad to see the 67/76 thing was fixed even though no one ever acknowledged that on floatplane :P 

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Maybe when you took off the heatsink and applied your own thermal paste, it improved performance exactly equal to the (small) backplate's performance. I think you should have retested with the backplate back on, with the same thermal paste.

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2 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Soon (TM) is just a meme as far as I know... can apply to anyone (Valve HL3 Soon! (TM)), just thought it was funny.

 

This week is a short week for us here in Canada (we were out Monday), we're still getting used to handling RED footage, and we're training 4 new people here in office... So it's a bit of an odd time, and unfortunately it's causing some issues.

 

But we'll be much better for it once we get everything figured out :D can't wait to see where we're at in a month or two...

guess I'm just to old then, not up on all the meme's. No problem's just curious, lots of changes at LMG these days, 20-30% increase in staff, new cameras, 8k filming, pretending Linus didn't take Project Valerie xDxDxD

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What about fan speeds and clocks? Just because the temps arent the same, dosent mean that there werent any differences.

 

This video proved nothing. Hopefully GN will do a proper video on it.

 

Also, 6:14 video with only 4:26 worth of actual content? Thats pretty bad

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Protip: That "cool spot" is down to the shiny copper having a different emissivity than the matte black around it so it reflects the cooler surroundings (point the thermal camera at a window and you'll see yourself, even though the entire window is the same temperature). If you want to compare temperatures between two different materials (or finishes) then put something like electrical tape on them.

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What about preventing heat radiating off the back of the pcb which could possibly raise internal ambient temps which could raise cpu temps?

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no thermal pads or heat pipes so what is it cooling? the fibreglass PCB? the screws that hold in the real heatsink?

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3 minutes ago, Ensho said:

What about preventing heat radiating off the back of the pcb which could possibly raise internal ambient temps which could raise cpu temps?

that's not how thermals work, that's like saying since water cooling keeps your stuff cooler you'll have cooler room temperatures.

12 minutes ago, Pat-Roner said:

What about fan speeds and clocks? Just because the temps arent the same, dosent mean that there werent any differences.

Unfortunately I've checked the video to try seeing if gpu clocks were different to see if there was a performance gain that might account for the increased thermals and it just doesn't show gpu clocks....boooooo

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Y'all missed an opportunity to ghetto hack a CPU waterblock to the backside with some thermal pad or tape and see if even under world's best circumstance does it make a difference.

 

It's also on my todo list to try this with the back of a CPU socket, in theory the die can be cooled through the socket pins through the PCB.

 

And the Titan X has memory on the backside so it's actually worth watercooling that backplate if you want max overclocks.

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1 hour ago, Cyracus said:

that's not how thermals work, that's like saying since water cooling keeps your stuff cooler you'll have cooler room temperatures.

 

Ask Steve at Gamer's Nexus if that is a legit concern and see what he says.  Fact is, it may not affect it much, but heat coming off the back plate of a gpu can raise cpu temps for people with lower powered cpu air coolers by raising the internal ambient temps around the cpu socket.  It won't affect matters much, but cooler is always better (unless they are charging you a $40 premium for 3c...cough Aorus).

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This proofs quite well what I have been thinking and "testing" (by adding backplate to my Gigabyte GTX 1070 Windforce). The backplate doesn't really help cooling anything, it doesn't affect on the max. temperatures. Whoever thought that few millimeters thick metal plate really affects the cooling, doesn't really know anything about cooling or physics. The backplate would acctually affect cooling if it even would be closely something like heatsink, but it's litterally just a plate. But what backplate (at least with my GPU) does in cooling is it by little bit slows down heating (and this is just plain physics, after all you have that extra mass optimally thermalpadded to the GPUs board, so some of the heat is transfered to the backplate), but that's probably just statistical no real change to the situation.

 

When someone makes backplate which acctually has a lot of mass and surfacearea and it is mounted to the GPU with thermalpaste and metal-to-metal connection (just like the real cooler, but on the back), I can think it would make a difference in cooling. But then you wouldn't have a backplate, you would have heatsink behind your GPU which wouldn't be that effective than putting that weight and effort to the front of the GPU.

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it would have been interesting to test this with evgas new card, with all the additional temp sensors on the vram and power components.

 

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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the backplate helps with cooling?  It helps the card with sagging and it looks better than an open PCB when in a case with a window.

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