[updated] Ryzen benchmark leaked

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, dalekphalm said:

Err no. Again. If you had read the article, you'd clearly see that it states the Ryzen chip was clocked at 3.4GHz with Turbo disabled. Besides, the A320 chipset isn't even capable of OC'ing the CPU to 4.7GHz, had they even wanted to.

HAHAHA YEAH SURE....3.4ghz ryzen vs 4.8GHZ haswell and they would be that close...NO WAY on earth...BULLSHIT...100%

[Dietrichw]

6 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

and the clocks of the ryzen were?!

cause there is no way that thing beat a 4.8ghz 5820k unless it,s heavily overclocked too...

Here is a comparison with stock chips single core only. The zen chip was at 3394MHz locked. via WCCFTECH

 

[dalekphalm]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

HAHAHA YEAH SURE....3.4ghz ryzen vs 4.8GHZ haswell and they would be that close...NO WAY on earth...BULLSHIT...100%

You're not looking at it clearly.

 

First off, different CPU architectures are good at different tasks. It's quite possible for the Ryzen arch to be superior in some specific tasks, while being slower in other specific tasks.

 

On top of that, the 5820K is a 6c12t, when it's compared to a 8c16t Ryzen. The 5820K beats the Ryzen by 800-ish points in the very first Single Thread graph. Which for a chip running at a faster clock, makes sense.

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Err no. Again. If you had read the article, you'd clearly see that it states the Ryzen chip was clocked at 3.4GHz with Turbo disabled. Besides, the A320 chipset isn't even capable of OC'ing the CPU to 4.7GHz, had they even wanted to.

let's be honest here, the whole ''intel CPU's were overclocked 4.8ghz'' is the bullshit part...it says in the graph i7-5820K @ 3.30ghz that's it that's all...IMHO 3.4ghz ryzen vs 3.3ghz haswell is what you have right there.

[dalekphalm]

5 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

let's be honest here, the whole ''intel CPU's were overclocked 4.8ghz'' is the bullshit part...it says in the graph i7-5820K @ 3.30ghz that's it that's all...IMHO 3.4ghz ryzen vs 3.3ghz haswell is what you have right there.

Well, either the entire article is bullshit, or they made crappy misleading graphs. Take your pick. If the entire article is bullshit, then we have no idea how they compare, and the Ryzen could be worse or better.

 

However, other users took normalized results, and compared at the same base frequency. EDIT: Sorry, they compared base Stock clocks without OC.

 

Look at @Dietrichw's post above for one such example.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

Well, either the entire article is bullshit, or they made crappy misleading graphs. Take your pick. If the entire article is bullshit, then we have no idea how they compare, and the Ryzen could be worse or better.

 

However, other users took normalized results, and compared at the same base frequency.

 

Look at @Dietrichw's post above for one such example.

''normalized'' mean haswell 5960x 3.0ghz vs broadwell 6800K 3.4ghz have the same single-thread performance?! if that's how you guys ''normalize'' stuff...you know

[dalekphalm]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

''normalized'' mean haswell 5960x 3.0ghz vs broadwell 6800K 3.4ghz have the same single-thread performance?! if that's how you guys ''normalize'' stuff...you know

I edited my post above. They compared stock clocks without OC, I believe. Locked without Turbo Boost, from the looks of it.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

''normalized'' mean haswell 5960x 3.0ghz vs broadwell 6800K 3.4ghz have the same single-thread performance?! if that's how you guys ''normalize'' stuff...you know

The benchmarks up on Passmark if you want to do a direct comparison. I was going to be comparing it with my 4790K. But my rig is still acting very screwy, and my 4790K+GTX 970 are not performing any where near as well as they should regardless of the benchmarking suite.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, Dabombinable said:

The benchmarks up on Passmark if you want to do a direct comparison. I was going to be comparing it with my 4790K. But my rig is still acting very screwy, and my 4790K+GTX 970 are not performing any where near as well as they should regardless of the benchmarking suite.

slap me with a link what should i download?

 

[dalekphalm]

3 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

''normalized'' mean haswell 5960x 3.0ghz vs broadwell 6800K 3.4ghz have the same single-thread performance?! if that's how you guys ''normalize'' stuff...you know

You can question the Ryzen scores all you want - this is a "leaked" result, after all. So by all means, take it with a grain of salt - I certainly will.

 

But all the Intel results are public record. You can go look up the results for any of these Intel CPU's yourself and decide for yourself whether they're for the OC or for the base clock.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

slap me with a link what should i download?

 

Here you go http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm, and once its opened, click on manage baselines then type in "ryzen", then click the checkbox next to it to download it into passmark.

[Dietrichw]

4 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

slap me with a link what should i download?

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-389-8-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/

At the end of the article the Author has a post above the comments with info about that and the chip results they selected.

[i_build_nanosuits]

5 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Here you go http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm, and once its opened, click on manage baselines then type in "ryzen", then click the checkbox next to it to download it into passmark.

here it is...this is 4770K running at 4.2ghz...looks like it aint bad if ryzen is 3.4ghz...if it was 4.2ghz i guess it would be about the same (?)

 

 

[Zi6iX]

Yeah not bad at all if this is true i'm gonna grab that 6 core

 

[dalekphalm]

18 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

here it is...this is 4770K running at 4.2ghz...looks like it aint bad if ryzen is 3.4ghz...if it was 4.2ghz i guess it would be about the same (?)

 

 

Yep, which is exactly where it should be, based on all other things we've seen leaked and official, about Ryzen.

 

IPC should line up within 5% of Haswell and Broadwell.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

Let's not forget that a couple of years ago the leaked benchmarks indicated that Bulldozer was going to walk all over the entire Intel lineup. 

I'll wait until Ryzen is tested properly by independent reviewers.  That should kill the hype quite quickly, and then we'll see what's what.

[goodtofufriday]

Is there any protocol for artiles/post that hold information thats simply wrong or presented in a misleading way? Not saying thats what the OP did, but its clear the data is skewed. I think it should be removed, or at least a disclaimer added to the OP 

[Humbug]

1 hour ago, Captain Chaos said:

Let's not forget that a couple of years ago the leaked benchmarks indicated that Bulldozer was going to walk all over the entire Intel lineup. 

I'll wait until Ryzen is tested properly by independent reviewers.  That should kill the hype quite quickly, and then we'll see what's what.

This did not happen. If fakes like that did happen it was in a very small way. Most of what people remember is just the hype and the hope...

There were some leaks which pointed out good multi-threaded performance, which turned out to be true.

[Citadelen]

22 hours ago, TheRandomness said:

-snip-

For the first one the RYZEN chip is running at Base clock most likely without boost, while the others are running very heavily over clocked. Some of the others are extremely dependent on memory bandwidth, the RYZEN system is using a terrible memory set, and the others use AVX, RYZEN does half AVX by design.

[Simon771]

Those numbers and infos are all over the place.

I can't wait for someone to acctually buy this CPUs from AMD and test them ...

[Space Reptile]

s/o to @Dietrichw for linking that WCCF article , im just gonna dump the images in here for all to see 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-389-8-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/

 

 

 

maybe putting em in OP aswell 

[malon]

As long as i don't see several unique youtube videos of these benchmarks done by trusted tech channels i don't believe any of these results.

[TheRandomness]

1 hour ago, Space Reptile said:

s/o to @Dietrichw for linking that WCCF article , im just gonna dump the images in here for all to see 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-389-8-core-cpu-benchmarks-leaked/

maybe putting em in OP aswell 

Well that doesn't seem biased at all.

[Space Reptile]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Well that doesn't seem biased at all.

well its  a new instruction thingy only available on kaby and ryzen , or just those 2 are very good at it 

[TheRandomness]

9 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

well its  a new instruction thingy only available on kaby and ryzen , or just those 2 are very good at it 

Well... After looking a bit harder (and according to Intel ark) the Broadwell-E CPUs don't have SSE..?