AMD Ryzen lacks/limits OC on some chips?!

[NumLock21]

click bait? IDGAF can't think of good topic title.

Is this a repost? IDGAF x2

 

There some theory out there saying that AMD Ryzen has their CPUs in both the X and non-X skus. Some say the X stands for AMD's Extended Frequency Range or XFR. This lets users with different types of cooling overclock their CPUs, while non X models can has limited OC and can't pass its TDP limit. It's also the reason why there is a huge price difference for such a small increase in clock speed between the X and non-X Ryzen cpus. It's also speculated that AMD Ryzen X based processors will not come with cpu coolers.
 

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Essentialy, AMD's "X" nomenclature regarding its upcoming Ryzen chips seems to denote the presence or absence of their touted XFR (eXtended Frequency Range) feature. This is part of AMD's SenseMI Technology suite, which aims to bring higher, intelligent performance to their Ryzen chips through the use of some particular technologies. XFR as it is, appears to be an added, automated overclocking capability to the chip, going further than the Precision Boost clocks would usually allow, supposedly scaling with the cooling performance of the end user's machine.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/230551/amds-x-nomenclature-on-upcoming-ryzen-chips-related-to-xfr-feature

 

 

 

 

[Starelementpoke]

Eh, wish they would just bundle the wraith cooler with everything regardless.

[Guest]

R3, R5, R7 vs i3, i5, i7

X and non-X vs K and non-K

Have cooler and have no cooler

 

God damn it

[ARikozuM]

inb4 the tech burns houses down due to bad temp probes.

[cj09beira]

its probably cache related and the binning, where the best chips will go to the higher end processors

 

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Eh, wish they would just bundle the wraith cooler with everything regardless.

but that would mean some people would be wasting money

[Notional]

The X models are simply the high binned chips with XFR. XFR is similar to NVidia boost, where it will auto OC within a power envelope and thermal limit granted by good cooling (beastly air, CLC, CWC, etc).

 

It will be very interesting to see how well these chips will oc. The technology is cool and all, but if we only get 1-200mhz oc, there really isn't a point.

[Mr.Meerkat]

2 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

click bait? IDGAF can't think of good topic title.

Is this a repost? IDGAF x2

Woah, why so aggressive? 

 

Just now, Starelementpoke said:

Eh, wish they would just bundle the wraith cooler with everything regardless.

Why would they bundle a cooler that they could sell for $15-20 for free?  

I mean it has performance similar to a 212 evo so...ya know...

 

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

theory

Yay, more "rumors" and "hypothesis" on the Ryzen chips...

[NumLock21]

3 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Woah, why so aggressive? 

 

I don't give a fudge is aggressive?

 

[MageTank]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

click bait? IDGAF can't think of good topic title.

Is this a repost? IDGAF x2

 

There some theory out there saying that AMD Ryzen has their CPUs in both the X and non-X skus. Some say the X stands for AMD's Extended Frequency Range or XFR. This lets users with different types of cooling overclock their CPUs, while non X models can has limited OC and can't pass its TDP limit. It's also the reason why there is a huge price difference for such a small increase in clock speed between the X and non-X Ryzen cpus. It's also speculated that AMD Ryzen X based processors will not come with cpu coolers.
 

https://www.techpowerup.com/230551/amds-x-nomenclature-on-upcoming-ryzen-chips-related-to-xfr-feature

 

 

 

 

It saddens me that a theory about an unreleased product becomes newsworthy. This is not a stab at you @NumLock21 as I often enjoy the formatting of your posts and the topics themselves, but more towards techpowerup. When the source of an article starts with "A reddit user", you know you've reached the bottom of the barrel. 

 

That entire article is a mess of assumptions based on unfounded rumors about things we know nothing about. 

[Energycore]

6 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

but that would mean some people would be wasting money

How about only 2 options:

 

1) Wraith Cooler

2) No Cooler

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

How about only 2 options:

 

1) Wraith Cooler

2) No Cooler

This is AMD. 

 

With cooler +10.

Without cooler -HOME

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

This is AMD. 

 

With cooler +10.

Without cooler -HOME

I'm gonna assume you're poking fun at the FX chips and don't actually believe these Ryzen chips will be as power hungry.

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

I'm gonna assume you're poking fun at the FX chips and don't actually believe these Ryzen chips will be as power hungry.

Poking fun at AMD in general. 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Poking fun at AMD in general. 

At least their latest stuff doesn't have that problem. I have a RX 480 that displays power readings around 110W at stock

[NumLock21]

AMD needs to include stock coolers on all of their cpus and not copy intel.

So you can get started on your build as well as test it out until your better cpu cooler arrives. It would suck to have everything arrive, except the cooler, where it will take another week.

The other reason is for backup use. Cooler broke, sending it back for RMA. In the meantime use stock cooler.

 

[Mr.Meerkat]

7 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

I don't give a fudge is aggressive?

Yep, IDGAF is indeed very very aggressive  

 

Just now, Energycore said:

At least their latest stuff doesn't have that problem. I have a RX 480 that displays power readings around 110W at stock

Spoiler

Nice set up you have going on dere  

 

Too bad my RX470 is complete junk when overclocking...165W for the GPU only when all I want is 1350MHz and 190W for 1400MHz (AKA, a single 6 pin isn't enough without triggering the OCP on my PSU or it just stutters) but at least it's only 90-110W at stock speeds (1270MHz)...

[Mooshi]

This still is the least sexiest naming scheme. 

[Sauron]

It limits automatic overclocking, you can still manually set it to whatever you like it seems.

[Energycore]

6 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Yep, IDGAF is indeed very very aggressive  

 

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Nice set up you have going on dere  

 

Too bad my RX470 is complete junk when overclocking...165W for the GPU only when all I want is 1350MHz and 190W for 1400MHz (AKA, a single 6 pin isn't enough without triggering the OCP on my PSU or it just stutters) but at least it's only 90-110W at stock speeds (1270MHz)...

I have cleaned that dust filter since the taking of that picture, if that concerns you.

 

Also please ignore the GPU sag product of a case mod gone awry.

 

I am still very proud of my setup.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

It limits automatic overclocking, you can still manually set it to whatever you like it seems.

Assuming this one redditor's wild speculation is true.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

I have cleaned that dust filter since the taking of that picture, if that concerns you.

 

Also please ignore the GPU sag product of a case mod gone awry.

 

I am still very proud of my setup.

Nawh, my "dust filters" look worse...

 

Meh, doesn't bother meh  

 

Hey, you have a quad core now with a good GPU...why would you not be proud of it?  

It only slightly triggers my OCD as there's too much cables outside the case...(inside, I doesn't bother me for some reason...)

[goodtofufriday]

Im fine with not paying for a cooler i will never use. I see no issues with this scheme. 

 

You know how many intel coolers i got laying around?! Too many! 

 

Anyone buying a X cpus would be buying a cooler as well.

[Energycore]

5 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Nawh, my "dust filters" look worse...

 

Meh, doesn't bother meh  

 

Hey, you have a quad core now with a good GPU...why would you not be proud of it?  

It only slightly triggers my OCD as there's too much cables outside the case...(inside, I doesn't bother me for some reason...)

I actually have all my peripheral cables braided into one bunch, that way when I wanna service the computer I can take the whole braid off, then put it back on once I'm done. Not great looking on the front of the computer, but very practical

[Godlygamer23]

38 minutes ago, MageTank said:

It saddens me that a theory about an unreleased product becomes newsworthy.

I don't think it qualifies as a theory. Closest is a hypothesis.