Upgrade to newer gen or stay?

[OsterForever]

Hello. I have a little problem in deciding if i should upgrade to next generation, or just stay where I am. 
Right now, I'm using MB with socket 1155, chipset Z68 so i can overclock (I have proper cooling for it too)
Problem is that recently I had to sell my CPU due to little money trouble, but right now i have money to upgrade my pc again.
My two choices between which I want to choose are:
- Staying on this generation for now and buy i5-2500k, maybe i7-2600k if I'll find any for good price
- Upgrade to 1151 and buy Pentium g4560 due to no money to buy even i3, but upgrade to i5 on summer brake when I'll be able to work 
If you have better idea, just throw it in reply

On PC I'm mostly playing games, sometimes I'm streaming cs:go or recording some films (so rendering it too) 
Rest of my PC

Sapphire R9 280X
8GB RAM
SilentiumPC Vero L1 600W

Rest is not important in this case imo

[comicsansms]

Buy a used i5 2500k, i7 2600k, i7 2700k, i5 3570k or i7 3770k. 

Not worth upgrading the platform. 

 

I would also replace the PSU with a Corsair CX450M, I have never heard of SilentiumPC and I cannot find much about it other than it has an 230V 80plus certification. 

[OsterForever]

2 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Buy a used i5 2500k, i7 2600k, i7 2700k, i5 3570k or i7 3770k. 

Not worth upgrading the platform. 

 

I would also replace the PSU with a Corsair CX450M, I have never heard of SilentiumPC and I cannot find much about it other than it has an 230V 80plus certification. 

Well, you've never heard of SilentiumPC maybe because it's polish company
But they're doing very good stuff, not some chinese psu from black list

[comicsansms]

2 minutes ago, OsterForever said:

Well, you've never heard of SilentiumPC maybe because it's polish company
But they're doing very good stuff, not some chinese psu from black list

I cannot find an OEM for your model, they don't have an UL number printed on them (probably because they cannot be sold in the US since it is only 230V compatible.) 80plus.org didn't tell me what PSU it is based on, it had a distinct ECOS number. 

 

I am at ground 0, it is a PSU that was released in 2015 but only has an equivalent 80plus certification (since it is 230V only it cannot get a full 80plus certification). There is no reason why a good PSU released in 2015 should also have a base level certification, so it is telling me it is likely not very good.

[OsterForever]

3 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I cannot find an OEM for your model, they don't have an UL number printed on them (probably because they cannot be sold in the US since it is only 230V compatible.) 80plus.org didn't tell me what PSU it is based on, it had a distinct ECOS number. 

 

I am at ground 0, it is a PSU that was released in 2015 but only has an equivalent 80plus certification (since it is 230V only it cannot get a full 80plus certification). There is no reason why a good PSU released in 2015 should also have a base level certification, so it is telling me it is likely not very good.

Well, only because it doesn't have some internetional certificate doesn't mean it's not good
It's very popular in Poland, I think they ship their products to some other countries too 

https://images.morele.net/d/14538897472411fcc7e2e4d0e410e295cb9b9d1a4537a877d83c04.pdf

Here you have documentation from the company who gave it "80plus" certificate
SilentiumPC's main goal is to sell their products in Poland, so no wonder they don't need certification for NA standards if it's not likely they'll sell anything there 

So just trust me, there's nothing wrong with my psu, the cpu here is my biggest problem 

[Cryptonite]

8 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I cannot find an OEM for your model, they don't have an UL number printed on them (probably because they cannot be sold in the US since it is only 230V compatible.) 80plus.org didn't tell me what PSU it is based on, it had a distinct ECOS number. 

 

I am at ground 0, it is a PSU that was released in 2015 but only has an equivalent 80plus certification (since it is 230V only it cannot get a full 80plus certification). There is no reason why a good PSU released in 2015 should also have a base level certification, so it is telling me it is likely not very good.

Americans have to be used to the 80 plus standard because they have to cater for the rest of the world, We (the rest of the world) aren't that interesting to the US so why bother catering for your voltages?

[Cryptonite]

3 minutes ago, OsterForever said:

Well, only because it doesn't have some internetional certificate doesn't mean it's not good
It's very popular in Poland, I think they ship their products to some other countries too 

https://images.morele.net/d/14538897472411fcc7e2e4d0e410e295cb9b9d1a4537a877d83c04.pdf

Here you have documentation from the company who gave it "80plus" certificate
SilentiumPC's main goal is to sell their products in Poland, so no wonder they don't need certification for NA standards if it's not likely they'll sell anything there 

So just trust me, there's nothing wrong with my psu, the cpu here is my biggest problem 

get a 2500k or 2600k / 2700k do not go for the Ivy bridge models since the Z68 series can run them, but cannot overclock them at all.

[john826472]

48 minutes ago, OsterForever said:

Hello. I have a little problem in deciding if i should upgrade to next generation, or just stay where I am. 
Right now, I'm using MB with socket 1155, chipset Z68 so i can overclock (I have proper cooling for it too)
Problem is that recently I had to sell my CPU due to little money trouble, but right now i have money to upgrade my pc again.
My two choices between which I want to choose are:
- Staying on this generation for now and buy i5-2500k, maybe i7-2600k if I'll find any for good price
- Upgrade to 1151 and buy Pentium g4560 due to no money to buy even i3, but upgrade to i5 on summer brake when I'll be able to work 
If you have better idea, just throw it in reply

On PC I'm mostly playing games, sometimes I'm streaming cs:go or recording some films (so rendering it too) 
Rest of my PC

Sapphire R9 280X
8GB RAM
SilentiumPC Vero L1 600W

Rest is not important in this case imo

Dont upgrade. Very little performance increase, infact if you upgrade platforms and get a pentium you will have a performance decrease. Buy a used i5-2500k and overclock it to 4ghz+ and leave it. In fact i would buy a setup like yours if i had access to older tecnology.

[OsterForever]

20 minutes ago, Aladd2040 said:

Dont upgrade. Very little performance increase, infact if you upgrade platforms and get a pentium you will have a performance decrease. Buy a used i5-2500k and overclock it to 4ghz+ and leave it. In fact i would buy a setup like yours if i had access to older tecnology.

I know that i5-2500k is better than pentium, but in 6 months i'll be able to buy better cpu (like i5-7600k) 

[Cryptonite]

1 minute ago, OsterForever said:

I know that i5-2500k is better than pentium, but in 6 months i'll be able to buy better cpu (like i5-7600k) 

then sell your current rig in 6 months and buy everything new. (get the i5 for now)

[john826472]

27 minutes ago, OsterForever said:

I know that i5-2500k is better than pentium, but in 6 months i'll be able to buy better cpu (like i5-7600k) 

Yes but the x270 platform is expensive.

Used I5 2500k's go for about 100 dollars on amazon. Heck the i7 2600k costs 171$ used and already is more powerful ( more threads) than the i5 7600k. Overclock the i7 2600k to 4.5 ghz and you'll have almost i7 7700k performance.  Since you are on a very tight budget this is the best budget option. Its a waste of money to buy a Pentium and then a 270 dollar i5 on an already expensive problem. If you absolutely must have the latest system then wait for ryzen release to drop prices and see what happends. 

 

 

[comicsansms]

2 hours ago, OsterForever said:

Well, only because it doesn't have some internetional certificate doesn't mean it's not good
It's very popular in Poland, I think they ship their products to some other countries too 

https://images.morele.net/d/14538897472411fcc7e2e4d0e410e295cb9b9d1a4537a877d83c04.pdf

Here you have documentation from the company who gave it "80plus" certificate
SilentiumPC's main goal is to sell their products in Poland, so no wonder they don't need certification for NA standards if it's not likely they'll sell anything there 

So just trust me, there's nothing wrong with my psu, the cpu here is my biggest problem 

I found that certificate but I cannot find anything more on your PSU other than that. Making it a Polish exclusive brand makes it harder to find information about it and because of that I cannot find the OEM or model. Without either of the 2, i cannot say what it is like. 80plus White or 230V 80plus white is not something to be proud of, it basically says "This PSU is likely not a fire bomb" ; nothing more than that. 230V exclusive is also often a sign of cheap shit, since it costs not much more to make it 100-120V and 220-240V compatibility, at the same time. 

A quick google, I think the lower wattage models are made by SAMA, not a well known name and probably not something I would recommend. The 600W model are a completely different platform and I have no information on them other than this image which is likely photoshopped (like basically every other PSU photo from the brand that sells it) 

 

 

2 hours ago, Cryptonite said:

Americans have to be used to the 80 plus standard because they have to cater for the rest of the world, We (the rest of the world) aren't that interesting to the US so why bother catering for your voltages?

I am not American and my mains power is 240V. 

The reason why 80plus is an important standard is because it is a median body, X brand could say Y information about their product but Y information is miss leading or wrong, but with a median body would moderate and rate accordingly to their unbiased tests, it also makes comparing products much easier (Not that efficiency means much) 

 

@STRMfrmXMN, I summon you here.

 

EDIT : SAMA, not SOMA

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I found that certificate but I cannot find anything more on your PSU other than that. Making it a Polish exclusive brand makes it harder to find information about it and because of that I cannot find the OEM or model. Without either of the 2, i cannot say what it is like. 80plus White or 230V 80plus white is not something to be proud of, it basically says "This PSU is likely not a fire bomb" ; nothing more than that. 230V exclusive is also often a sign of cheap shit, since it costs not much more to make it 100-120V and 220-240V compatibility, at the same time. 

A quick google, I think the lower wattage models are made by SOMA, not a well known name and probably not something I would recommend. The 600W model are a completely different platform and I have no information on them other than this image which is likely photoshopped (like basically every other PSU photo from the brand that sells it) 

 

 

 

I am not American and my mains power is 240V. 

The reason why 80plus is an important standard is because it is a median body, X brand could say Y information about their product but Y information is miss leading or wrong, but with a median body would moderate and rate accordingly to their unbiased tests, it also makes comparing products much easier (Not that efficiency means much) 

 

@STRMfrmXMN, I summon you here.

I'm sick and my sinuses are clogged and I can't breathe, can you give me a summation of what I've missed here?

[comicsansms]

8 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I'm sick and my sinuses are clogged and I can't breathe, can you give me a summation of what I've missed here?

Polish exclusive PSU that is 230V only, has 230V 80plus certification. 

Unknown OEM (Doesn't have a UL number, and has a unique ECOS ID on 80plus.org), possibly SAMA like the 500W model under the same model. 

No reviews

 

EDIT : SAMA, not SOMA. 

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Polish exclusive PSU that is 230V only, has 230V 80plus certification. 

Unknown OEM (Doesn't have a UL number, and has a unique ECOS ID on 80plus.org), possibly SAMA like the 500W model under the same model. 

No reviews

 

EDIT : SAMA, not SOMA. 

So is OP looking at buying it cuz OP should not look at buying it

[comicsansms]

2 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

So is OP looking at buying it cuz OP should not look at buying it

The OP already has it and is using it to power a 280x, but is considering to upgrading their platform to a skylake pentium. (they currently have a Z68 motherboard with no CPU)

My recommendation was for the OP to get an unlocked Sandy or Ivy CPU and a CX450M,

[STRMfrmXMN]

12 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

The OP already has it and is using it to power a 280x, but is considering to upgrading their platform to a skylake pentium. (they currently have a Z68 motherboard with no CPU)

My recommendation was for the OP to get an unlocked Sandy or Ivy CPU and a CX450M,

I'd probably not do that CPU upgrade. Features and stuff are much more abundant Skylake or Kaby Lake.

[Zodiark1593]

15 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I'd probably not do that CPU upgrade. Features and stuff are much more abundant Skylake or Kaby Lake.

I'd probably not recommend a platform upgrade myself unless it was to X99 or whatever Ryzen uses. Performance-wise, Skylake isn't such a performance jump that I could recommend dumping board, cpu (albeit, OP might lack this one) and RAM. It is still a quad core, and the 2600K still holds up well today. 

 

So, I would recommend the OP get the 2600K, or save up for X99/X99 replacement/Ryzen for a more decisive performance bump in six (or more) cores. 

[scottyseng]

8 hours ago, OsterForever said:

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I'm also going to have to say to stick with a Sandy CPU (2600K if you can). If you overclock it, it'll be great to you.

 

I myself just bought a used 2700K for $130 from ebay, and I've gotten it to 4.9GHz. It's a super capable chip and even if Ryzen knocks the price of everything down, at least I didn't spend $600-700 for a 7700K. It gave me the boost that I wanted (I do content creation work) with everything open / feeds the GPU I have nicely (I own both a 1070 / 980 Ti). Though now my old 2500K is just sitting here on my desk now...

[Cryptonite]

4 hours ago, scottyseng said:

Though now my old 2500K is just sitting here on my desk now...

sell it to him

[scottyseng]

3 minutes ago, Cryptonite said:

sell it to him

I think the OP is in Poland though...shipping would be pretty high for it from the US. haha.

[OsterForever]

1 hour ago, scottyseng said:

I think the OP is in Poland though...shipping would be pretty high for it from the US. haha.

Yeah, shipping would be pretty high on costs, no doubts on that. Ok, so I'll stay on this platform, I'll just buy 2500k and wait to get more money for new computer, and this one will be just rendering machine

And to the guys saying anything about my PSU - Everyone, especially technical channels on youtube and other informatics in Poland will say that silentiumpc is making good psu's, and they will reccomend it. One of the biggest e-shop with electronics have their own channel with reviews and other stuff, and pretty much always there is silentiumpc psu in pc, because it's good and cheap (no need for transport and storage fee's cause they're making it here)