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Gaming Laptop Guide - UPDATED RTX Edition!

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On 1/29/2019 at 6:10 AM, Galm said:

Are you in the U.S.?  The new generation of gaming gpu comes out tomorrow...  You should wait for that.

Hi. I am not too sure but wasn't it the end of January, 2019? Also, I might be wrong, but some RTX laptops were available before that. The reason I am saying this is that I saw a lot of mentions about January, 29th. Having said that, on such websites as Overclockers some RTX models are available and some are with an unknown release date.

 

Myself I am looking for a GTX laptop - when do you reckon the prices will further drop given the introduction of RTX?

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RTX laptops...  

 

Some initial models available are the:

TongFang units like the Eluktronics Mech 15 G2 and Mech 17 G1R.
Asus GL504/GL704
MSI GE series, GP series, GS series
Aorus 15 W9 and X9
Clevo P960, P750, P775, and PB50 units
AW M15, Area 51M
 

More to come, but I'm trying to get a handle on how cpu cooling is on many of these units first.

 
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Alright here we go...  First draft:

 

(Also while I'm revising this over time, do you guys think I should make a new thread or not?)  The plan is to update these listings as we get more info for what can cool and what has known issues.
 

The RTX Gaming Laptop Guide

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Other Guides:  Computer Parts | Reseller Guide
 
So this time around I'm dividing by graphics card.  That's because the prices this gen are all over the place and in general don't fit any nice cut off points like under 1500...  Unfortunately for RTX you'll be paying more than that.  Note that until I reach the portables section these laptops are more focused on performance and non max q components.
 
Categories:
RTX 2060 Machines
RTX 2070 Machines
RTX 2080 Machine
No Limit
Portables
 
IMPORTANT: Links are to view the product.  It doesn't mean that's where you should buy from.
 
BE CAREFUL TO AVOID 1x16GB ram stick.  You'll take a significant performance hit this gen with single channel RAM.
 
BASE PRICE: Generally what I'd consider a starting config price range.  Should be about 16GB of ram and either an ssd + hdd or larger sized ssd.  I try and make it a "base" useful config.  A config with 8GB of ram for gaming is fairly useless.
 
 
Owner's lounges (where actual owners of the models discuss their machines) will be linked, though not everything has an owners lounge.
 
 
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RTX 2060 Machines:
 
This is where stuff starts getting good.  Now we have some serious gaming horsepower coming into the mix, with the GTX 1060 present in all recommendations.  Anything less is not a smart use of money for a gaming machine in this price range.  Quality also increases here.
 
Sager NP8961/Clevo P960ED (17" version here)  - One of the new 16.1" models this machine has a similar footprint to 15" laptops with larger bezels.  Overall a thinner unit but also competitively priced.  Cooling not yet known.
 
Base Price: $1470
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 16.1" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 51WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable) || 2 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack
Dimensions: 14.96” (w) x 9.92” (d) x 0.78” (h) 
Other: 180W adapter || 4.6 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard (zone lit) || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader
 
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MSI GL63 - MSI's entry level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops lack some of the bells and whistles of the more premium series above it like the GP and GE series.  Worse displays, no RGB, worse speakers, smaller battery etc...  
 
Base Price: $1600
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 51WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack
Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h)
Other: 180W adapter || 4.8 pounds
 
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MSI GE63 Raider - MSI's mid level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops are share the same chassis as the GL and GP series but come with all the features the chassis can offer:  
 
Base Price: $1749
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 65WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack
Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h)
Other: 180W adapter || 5.49 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers || spdif with Sabre dac || sd card reader
 
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Aorus 15 W9 - Aorus's new chassis at a more afforable price than their X5 X7 type chassis designs.  
 
Base Price: $1800 (includes a lot of storage)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1M.2 SATA/PCIE || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 (DP capable) || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mini sd card reader
Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 9.68(D) x 0.96(H) inch
Other: 180W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)
 
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Tongfang GK5CP0Z - This TongFang chassis is most well known in the United States as the Walmart OP15+ and Eluktronics Mech 15 G2 units though it is also sold under other names.  It's generally an excellent value and known well performing laptop that can properly hold both cpu and gpu clocks.
 
Base Price: $1500+ (includes a lot of storage)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA that's filled with the better battery
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 2 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 4 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 14.13" x 9.29" x 0.86"
Other: 150W adapter || 4.4+ pounds || RGB keyboard
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Asus GL504 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.
 
Base Price: $1800
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 66WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || sd card reader
Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 10.31(D) x 1.00 ~ 1.03(H)
Other: 180W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (Zone)
 
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MSI GS65 - MSI's premium thin option.  Black and gold color scheme with a better and larger trackpad that last gen.  
 
Base Price: $2100 (Cheap vs the 2080 :) )
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD WVA            |               Battery: 82WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || spdif sabre dac
Dimensions: 0.71 (H) x 14.09 (W) x 9.76 (D) in
Other: 180W adapter || 4.07 pounds || RGB keyboard || glass touchpad
 
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AW M15 2060 - AWs first thin laptop in...  Pretty much ever.  Sports an all new design with a well under an inch chassis.
 
Base Price: $1900 (more expensive than it looks for good specs)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie
Display: 15.6" FHD 60Hz IPS || FHD 144Hz IPS || UHD 60Hz IPS            |               Battery: 60WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || 1 AGA || Ethernet || headset jack
Dimensions: 14.3(W) x 10.8(D) x ~0.7-0.83(H) inch
Other: 180W adapter || 5.78 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)
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Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.
 
Base Price: $1900+ (will be more properly specced)
CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2060MP
Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!)
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H)
Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac
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RTX  2070 Machines:
2070 laptops are actually not all that common without max q design in 15" chassis's.  But as long as the cooling permits these will be fast machines offering performance close to a max q 2080.  
 
Aorus 15 X9 - Aorus's new chassis at a more afforable price than their X5 X7 type chassis designs.  Almost identical to its 2060 brother besides price and the 2070.
 
Base Price: $2100 (includes a lot of storage)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1M.2 SATA/PCIE || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD IPS             |               Battery: 62WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 (DP capable) || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mini sd card reader
Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 9.68(D) x 0.96(H) inch
Other: 230W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)
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Clevo PB51EF-G - A new chassis design from Clevo.  The spiritual successor to the Clevo P650 series models.
 
Base Price: $1820 (for a 256GB ssd + 1TB HDD with 16GB ram)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 62WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable, 1 TB III) || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack
Dimensions: 14.13” (w) x 10.15” (d) x 1.18” (h)
Other: 230W adapter || 5.8 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader
 
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Tongfang GK7CP7S - This 17" TongFang chassis is like it's 15" brother mostly known for the Walmart OP17+ and Eluktronics Mech 17 G1R models in the U.S.  Like it's 15" brother it can also handle its hardware at a hard to beat price
 
Base Price: $1800
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA (taken by larger battery)
Display: 17.3" 144Hz IPS FHD               |               Battery: 62WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 2 mDP 1.4 || 1 USB Type C  || 2 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 4 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 15.5" x 10.25 x 1"
Other: 180W adapter || 5.25+ pounds barebones || RGB keyboard
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Asus GL504 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.  This one obviously sports a 2070MP.
 
Base Price: $2000 (500gb ssd 16GB ram)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 66WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || sd card reader
Dimensions: 14.21(W) x 10.31(D) x 1.00 ~ 1.03(H)
Other: 230W adapter || 5.29 pounds || RGB keyboard (Zone)
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MSI GE63 Raider - MSI's mid level gaming laptops for RTX these laptops are share the same chassis as the GL and GP series but come with all the features the chassis can offer:  
 
Base Price: $2200
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 15.6" 120Hz FHD              |               Battery: 65WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || mic jack || headset jack
Dimensions: 15.07" (w) x 10.23" (d) x 1.16" (h)
Other: 280W adapter || 5.49 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers || spdif with Sabre dac || sd card reader
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MSI GT63 Titan - MSI's 15" serious gaming laptop.  Larger chassis design for prioritizing performance over any other 15" model they make this is the big boy.
 
Base Price: $2500
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 90WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 3 USB 3.1 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || quad audio ports including spdif || 3 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 15.35"(w) x 10.47"(d) x 1.56"(h)
Other: 330W adapter || 6.84 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofer
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Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.
 
Base Price: $2150+ (will be more properly specced)
CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2070MP
Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!)
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H)
Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac
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RTX 2080 and up:
 
Clevo P750TM1-G - Clevo's big boy 15".  This is a 15" machine with a desktop cpu and modular components.  Typically a more powerful more enthusiast machine.  HIDevolution is linked because they offer an unlocked bios and cooling mods to tame this beast's thermals.  Can be equipped with a 2060-2080.
 
Base Price: $2550+ (will be more properly specced)
CPU: i5 9600k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP
Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 2 2.5" sata (4 total!)
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" GSync            |               Battery: 90WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || 1 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack || 6 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 15.2"(W) x 10.32"(D) x 1.5"(H)
Other: 330W adapter || 7.5 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone) ||  Sabre dac
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Asus G703 - Asus's current entry level into RTX laptops.  Features an aggressive gaming design with a light bar in front and slim bezels.  Has a signature slanted black brushed finish.  This one obviously sports a 2070MP.
 
Base Price: $3000
CPU: i7 8750H (i9 available)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP
Ram Slots: 4                |               Storage Slots: 3 M.2 pcie (1 is sata) || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 17.3" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 96WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C 3.1 || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || sd card reader
Dimensions: 16.7"(W) x 12.6"(D) x 2.0"(H)
Other: 2X 280W adapter || 10.4 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofers
 
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Alienware Area-51M - Alienwares new shot at the top.  A Clevo matching desktop cpu and 190W power limit 2080 means on paper this is the most powerful laptop of this generation.  
 
Base Price: $3050+ (bad stock storage)
CPU: i7 9700k - i9 9900k(!)               |                GPU: RTX 2080MP
Ram Slots: 4                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 pcie (1 is sata too) || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 17.3" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level" Gsync Tobii Eye Tracking             |               Battery: 90WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 AGA || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headset jack || headphone jack
Dimensions: 16.10(W) x 15.85(D) x 1.09(H) inch (thicker than this)
Other: 180W + 330W adapter || 9.7 pounds barebone || RGB keyboard
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MSI GT75 Titan - MSI's 15" serious gaming laptop.  Larger chassis design for prioritizing performance over any other 15" model they make this is the big boy.
 
Base Price: $3400
CPU: i7 8750H (i9 available)                |                GPU: RTX 2080MP
Ram Slots: 4(!)                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie || 2 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD "IPS-level"             |               Battery: 75WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 USB Type C TB III || 5(!) USB 3.1 || Ethernet || quad audio ports including spdif || 3 in 1 card reader
Dimensions: 16.85"(W) x 12.36"(D) x 1.22-2.28"(H)
Other: 2x 230W adapter || 10.05 pounds || RGB keyboard || subwoofer
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Max-Q RTX Thin Laptops:
 
No budget but you need it to be thin and portable?  Look here:
 
Note that these machines have Max-Q gpus which means crippled performance.  If you want better value most of these laptops will have a 2060 non max q option which should be a better bang for your buck.  This is especially true of 2070 max q units which barely beat a 2060.
 
MSI GS65 - MSI's premium thin option.  Black and gold color scheme with a better and larger trackpad that last gen.  
 
Base Price: $2800
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 pcie
Display: 15.6" 144Hz FHD WVA            |               Battery: 82WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack || mic jack || spdif sabre dac
Dimensions: 0.71 (H) x 14.09 (W) x 9.76 (D) in
Other: 230W adapter || 4.07 pounds || RGB keyboard || glass touchpad
 
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Alienware M15 - Alienware's first real forray into a thin unit.
 
Base Price: $2600 (bad default storage) 
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 M.2 pcie || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 15.6" 60Hz IPS || 144Hz FHD IPS || UHD IPS          |               Battery: 60WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 AGA || 1 USB C TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || Ethernet || headset jack
Dimensions: 14.3(W) x 10.8(D) x ~0.7-0.83(H)
Other: 230W adapter || 4.78 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)
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Asus Zephyrus S - Zephyrus is Asus's thin line.  To try and get better thermals the keyboard is in an unusual spot.  The trackpads also double as numpads.
 
Base Price: $3000 
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie
Display: 15.6" 60Hz IPS || 144Hz FHD IPS || UHD IPS          |               Battery: 60WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 2 USB C || 1 USB 3.1 || 2 USB 2.0 || Ethernet || headset jack
Dimensions: 14.17(W) x 10.55(D) x 0.60 ~ 0.63(H)
Other: 230W adapter || 4.63 pounds || RGB keyboard (zone)
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Razer Blade 15 - Razer's mainstay gaming laptop...  Thin and sexy, not known for quality control however.  
 
Base Price: $2400 (2070) $3000 (2080)
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 1 M.2 sata/pcie || 1 2.5" sata
Display: 144Hz FHD IPS-Level       |               Battery: 80WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI || 1 mDP || 1 TB III || 3 USB 3.1 || headset jack
Dimensions: 0.70" x 9.25" x 13.98"
Other: 230W adapter || 4.63 pounds || RGB keyboard
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Clevo P960EN - Clevo's 16.1" thin and light with a Max Q 2080
 
Base Price: $2220
CPU: i7 8750H                |                GPU: RTX 2080 Max-Q
Ram Slots: 2                |               Storage Slots: 2 M.2 (1 SATA/PCIE, 1PCIE) || 1 2.5" SATA
Display: 16.1" 144Hz WVA FHD               |               Battery: 51WHR      
Ports: 1 HDMI 2.0 || 1 mDP 1.2 || 2 USB Type C (1 DP capable) || 2 USB 3.0 || Ethernet || headphone jack || mic jack
Dimensions: 14.96” (w) x 9.92” (d) x 0.78” (h) 
Other: 180W(!) adapter || 4.6 pounds barebones || RGB keyboard (zone lit) || fingerprint sensor in the touchpad || 6 in 1 card reader
 
 
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Well there you have it.  That's my current guide to gaming laptops.  It will be updated as more stuff comes out most likely.
 
For Clevo laptops I'd recommend a Prema partner like HIDEvolution in the U.S.  If they cost too much find a cheaper option like LPC-Digital (Larry is awesome there), GentechPC, XoticPC, or Eurocom.
 
HID, GenTechPC, and Xotic are also good for other brands as they sell a ton.  HID is the only reseller I'm aware of with Razer though.
 
There are of course other gaming laptops that could be right for you, but in general these are the best of the best machines out there.
 
Good luck shopping!
 
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Let me know what you guys think of that first pass, and if you think it should have a new post!

 

There are...  Some models missing.  I'm a little hesistant to put them up since they're really hard to find info on or have been shown to perform quite poorly.  Acer Triton models don't really make much sense right now for example.  I also didn't put the Blade or Aero yet.  I also favor performance at smaller sizes.  So while I'll probably edit in the 17" versions of a lot of these models to me the 15" version is more practical.  I stop doing this at the really high end price ranges for 2080s where 17" models make more sense.

 
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Galm, I signed up for these forums to ask about literally this exact topic, so I'm glad to see your draft of the current lineup. I'm not sure about others, but seeing models that are reported as performing badly and WHY they aren't recommended is valuable to me, as otherwise I'd just spend time digging into why they may not be listed myself. 

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Hey guys. I have an Alienware 15 R4 currently stocked with an Intel Core i7-8750H processor (2.2 Ghz), Nvidia GTX 1070, 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB HDD, 256 GB SSD. I plan on upgrading my RAM size to 32 GB and adding more SSDs. Are there any recommended brands to choose from? Please help me.

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8 hours ago, RichJMoney said:

Galm, I signed up for these forums to ask about literally this exact topic, so I'm glad to see your draft of the current lineup. I'm not sure about others, but seeing models that are reported as performing badly and WHY they aren't recommended is valuable to me, as otherwise I'd just spend time digging into why they may not be listed myself. 

That's something I can definitely help you with...  Many laptops are struggling at cooling the cpu.  

 

I'm a suggestalaptop moderator on Reddit so you can also get help my tagging me.  I'm in the LTT Discord and the SuggestALaptop Discord server.  

 

We can help once we know your requirements.

 
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6 hours ago, Christian Ekeigwe said:

Hey guys. I have an Alienware 15 R4 currently stocked with an Intel Core i7-8750H processor (2.2 Ghz), Nvidia GTX 1070, 16 GB of RAM, 1 TB HDD, 256 GB SSD. I plan on upgrading my RAM size to 32 GB and adding more SSDs. Are there any recommended brands to choose from? Please help me.

For ram if you just want the best: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAL3TYY

 

For ssds I'd go with a Samsung 860 Evo or Crucial MX500 if you can use sata.  If the slots are pcie only a 960 evo or something.  pcie speeds matter less in real world performance compared to an HDD vs sata ssd.

 
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1 hour ago, Galm said:

For ram if you just want the best: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NAL3TYY

 

For ssds I'd go with a Samsung 860 Evo or Crucial MX500 if you can use sata.  If the slots are pcie only a 960 evo or something.  pcie speeds matter less in real world performance compared to an HDD vs sata ssd.

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Front page is live!  The old guide is still included as a spoiler so that the first 18 pages of comments make some semblence of sense.

 
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Cooling not yet known

I've tested it. Will post review soon

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

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I've tested it. Will post review soon

If you could run an Aida cpu + heaven gpu test at the same time that'd be great.  I'm on the LTT Discord and SuggestALaptop Discords if you wanted to reach out there.  I'd love to see those number!

 
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On 4/12/2019 at 7:55 AM, Galm said:

If you could run an Aida cpu + heaven gpu test at the same time that'd be great

I've done Aida64 FPU+Valley Extreme HD test (15 mins stress) with CPU -100mv undervolt and max fans

 

CPU: Max 88C, 2.8+GHz, ~38W

GPU: Max 75C, clock speed fluctuates: +200-500 than boost clock (1200MHz), ~80W

 

I would say the cooling performance is similar to TongFang GK5CP0Z I tested (Illegear Onyx). Only thing is CPU cooling is a bit weak (still decent enough) - there's some power throttling due to firmware/BIOS while GPU is under load, not to mention the relatively low BD PROCHOT: 87C. However, P960 has quieter fans with auto profile

 

Edit: [REVIEW]

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

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I think the Area51m has a 200W - GPU (based on the last bios update) 

 

 

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16 hours ago, rodarkone said:

I think the Area51m has a 200W - GPU (based on the last bios update) 

 

 

It does now...  I'm not worried about that machine yet though until we start to see reports of less of them catching on fire or burning themselves out.  Any laptop that gets recalled at that price point is really not worth looking at for a while.

 

I edited the post though adding both of that in thanks.

 
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Just my 2 cents: Legion Y740 should be in the 2060 laptop list IMO. Very good cooling (no repaste needed) with quiet fans

Desktop specs:

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Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

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Just my 2 cents: Legion Y740 should be in the 2060 laptop list IMO. Very good cooling (no repaste needed) with quiet fans

It already is ?

 
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It already is ?

Ah my bad. Guess it's time to go sleep since I can't focus on reading now

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Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

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It does now...  I'm not worried about that machine yet though until we start to see reports of less of them catching on fire or burning themselves out.  Any laptop that gets recalled at that price point is really not worth looking at for a while.

 

I edited the post though adding both of that in thanks.

True - Alienware (Dell) have a record of screwing up the users (myself included) with their GPUs (I still moan due to my M17 R5 due to the bad power delivery circuit design and defective cooler design it just "throttles" (basically it switch the power to a minimum for a split second where you will have a stuttering of FPS (drops up to 0) 

 

And even I was not convinced about the Alienware Area51m I bite the bullet and got it for a reasonable price ( ~ 3000 $ shipped/tax included - 8700 and 2080, which is a decent combination in terms of power-heat-performance (my unit is doesn't go over 87 C .. and this is on the CPU, the GPU is much colder at only 79 C - in heavy stress tests) In games my GPU is around 76-77 / and CPU is not going over 70 (with the Performance profile - which is LOUD).

 

Again is a very powerfull laptop, but I would not recommend it to the "regular user" - the price paied and the return is not worth it, this is only for ppl who are enthusiasts, and cash to burn, there are a lot better solutions out-there.

 

Probably the sweet spot is a RTX 2060 and a 8750H ... with a good cooling, on a 15" screen, 1080 and 100+ Hz. Price will probably be half and you will loose maybe 30 % of the performance. 

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True - Alienware (Dell) have a record of screwing up the users (myself included) with their GPUs (I still moan due to my M17 R5 due to the bad power delivery circuit design and defective cooler design it just "throttles" (basically it switch the power to a minimum for a split second where you will have a stuttering of FPS (drops up to 0) 

 

And even I was not convinced about the Alienware Area51m I bite the bullet and got it for a reasonable price ( ~ 3000 $ shipped/tax included - 8700 and 2080, which is a decent combination in terms of power-heat-performance (my unit is doesn't go over 87 C .. and this is on the CPU, the GPU is much colder at only 79 C - in heavy stress tests) In games my GPU is around 76-77 / and CPU is not going over 70 (with the Performance profile - which is LOUD).

 

Again is a very powerfull laptop, but I would not recommend it to the "regular user" - the price paied and the return is not worth it, this is only for ppl who are enthusiasts, and cash to burn, there are a lot better solutions out-there.

 

Probably the sweet spot is a RTX 2060 and a 8750H ... with a good cooling, on a 15" screen, 1080 and 100+ Hz. Price will probably be half and you will loose maybe 30 % of the performance. 

Honestly AW has a terrible overall track record lately, so I just don't have any confidence in what they're putting out.  The Dell G7 was outperforming the AW 15 with an i9 in some benches I remember.  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361611133737631755/500137206539878400/3DM11.PNG

 

The problem is the 2080 units though.  I'd want to monitor it closely if I owned one.  A scary number have killed their units.

 
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@Galm - yeah this is true :) so tomorrow I will return mine as the "first batch" of RTX 2080 has some issues, is not even the GPU but other power delivery components which are causing the problem, I saw ppl with their 2080 not even hitting 80C blowing up in smokes, so I requested a refund/return in the last day :) as for 3000$ payed I don't want to take any chances (yes I know I have warranty but why I should be punished for their mistakes) 

 

Overall laptop is amazing as owner of so many different "desktop replacements" - is truly a beauty, all my previous concerns are basically fixed in this model, but considering the mistake of considering users part of their QA team, makes the laptop (at least until Dell admits the flaw and start replace the bad units) a time bomb. 

 

Will keep posted here ... with the progress. 

 

 

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@Galm My P650-HP6-G developed a funny white spot in the middle of the screen that is genuinely aggravating. Which places do you recommend for a replacement screen that can ship to the UK. 

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@Galm My P650-HP6-G developed a funny white spot in the middle of the screen that is genuinely aggravating. Which places do you recommend for a replacement screen that can ship to the UK. 

You may need to contact a reseller.  I'm not in the UK so I don't know the market that well.  Who ever sells Clevos now over there could be who to contact.

 
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You may need to contact a reseller.  I'm not in the UK so I don't know the market that well.  Who ever sells Clevos now over there could be who to contact.

I have contacted the seller about this and waiting for a response. I did also found a couple websites that sell them:

- https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/Clevo/P650HP6-G/

- https://www.screencountry.com/index.php?section=products&model=P650HP6-G&brand=Clevo&series= 

- https://www.laptop-lcd-screen.co.uk/shop/CLEVO-P650HP6-G-15.6-LAPTOP-SCREEN__212504.asp

 

Not sure of these however.

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On 6/2/2019 at 10:08 PM, Galm said:

You may need to contact a reseller.  I'm not in the UK so I don't know the market that well.  Who ever sells Clevos now over there could be who to contact.

Finally got a response from them, and it looks ... expensive. 35 pounds for shipping + 69 for the screen as they can't ship the screen to me so I have to ship the whole thing to them.

 

Also, one of my keys decided to spring out again after breaking its clips and they don't have replacement keys just the entire thing. There has to be some replacement keys somewhere, right? Cannot afford to keep replacing the entire thing as this issue happens way more often than it should ...

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