Gaming laptop running MUCH slower than expected

[Orothi]

Hey everyone, a friend of mine just got an ASUS ROG GL502VT and was surprised at how slow it runs games. This laptop is sporting a GTX 1070, an I7 6700HQ, 8GBs of DDR4 ram a 1TB HDD and a 128GB PCIe SSD. According to what he said, this laptop runs GTA V worse than his previous laptop, an ASUS ROG G750JZ which had an 860M, 12GBs of RAM and an I7 4710HQ. Having had experiences with low ram on GTA V myself and seeing how he described the problem it definitely wasn't a ram issue, since FPS didn't suddently dip but just were lower in general. Obviously I told him to get rid of the preinstalled bloatware and to make sure all the drivers were up to date, but it seems they didn't affect the results. Basically, with the same exact settings, both on 1080p monitors the older laptop kept the FPSs at around 60 with (VSync on obvs) but with the new one, he was getting around 45-50FPSs. Same goes for Rainbow Six Siege and Dirt Rally.

Any idea why?

[samcool55]

What about temps and drivers?

[Orothi]

35 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

What about temps and drivers?

All drivers are up to date and temps are all under 55°C. I also made sure he disabled power saving settings and that everything was set to """performance mode"""

[Pendragon]

There is no way temps are under 55c. Use hwinfo to monitor it and give us a screenshot. Also have MSI afterburner clock speed graph over time. Do this while running unigine heaven on loop for at least 15 minutes. All of this is free ware. Takes 20 minutes to do. Until u provide more info nothing we can do but guess. 

[Orothi]

These are the results. Appearently the temps are not what he said before lol but anyway, 78°C after 15 mins of Unigine Heaven maxed out with NO VSync, and 74° during the same test with VSync, right after the aforementioned benchmark. Appearently it's a GTA V related issue.

[Squirrel724]

Is he sure that GTA V is running on the 1070 and not on the iGPU?

[Pendragon]

Yea and also. I don't care about the unigine stats. Those aren't always accurate. Use hwinfo and MSI afterburner 

[Orothi]

These are the photos he sent me. They were taken while playing GTA V for over 20 mins. temps are pretty good, so i don't think it's a thermal throttling issue. 

[Over9000Dude]

With afterburner overlay

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, Orothi said:

20 mins. temps are pretty good, so i don't think it's a thermal throttling issue. 

No its not lol. Max temps 97. It's throttling. That's CPU only, we 're not even seeing the GPU clock overtime. I assume that's fucked as well. 

[Orothi]

4 hours ago, Pendragon said:

No its not lol. Max temps 97. It's throttling. That's CPU only, we 're not even seeing the GPU clock overtime. I assume that's fucked as well. 

97 was the max utilization percentage of the CPU, those weren't the temps, you can see the temps in the fourth picture, the highest temperature reached by the CPU was 81°C, but while playing it was at around 67-68 as you can see from that pic

[Pendragon]

2 minutes ago, Orothi said:

97 was the max utilization percentage of the CPU, those weren't the temps, you can see the temps in the fourth picture, the highest temperature reached by the CPU was 81°C, but while playing it was at around 67-68 as you can see from that pic

 

oh wtf, ma bad didn't look closely. That's fine. Tell him to send 1 image like this. So he doesn't need to send like 15. 

[Imglidinhere]

3 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

oh wtf, ma bad didn't look closely. That's fine. Tell him to send 1 image like this. So he doesn't need to send like 15. 

I TOLD you that laptop ran cool as hell! >.>; You just wanted to run it off the ultra harsh stress test from notebookcheck and say it wasn't a cool gaming notebook... >~>

 

Also holy crap those temp differentials... 96*C on one core and 87*C on another? LOL.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, Imglidinhere said:

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Really depends what GTA settings he ran it at. I don't run NBC tests. I run OCCT+Unigine. NBC's P95+Furmark is insane. Also that's my current laptop pre fix. Also @Orothi run unigine heave. Games depends on what settings you run it at. On Unigine, just max everything out. 

[Imglidinhere]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Really depends what GTA settings he ran it at. I don't run NBC tests. I run OCCT+Unigine. NBC's P95+Furmark is insane. Also that's my current laptop pre fix. Also @Orothi run unigine heave. Games depends on what settings you run it at. On Unigine, just max everything out. 

Yeah NBC's tests are like revving your motor to 8k RPM and holding it for an hour to see what it does. Like... if there's any test that proves the cooling system's capabilities, then it's NBC's thing. Hell, most Clevo notebooks actually do really really well with it. I know if temps only hit 90-95*C on that test thing, then you'll never break 80*C usually. I know I saw people throttling their Inspiron 7559s with the i5 on that same test, but it's never broken 80*C in any application or scenario I've ever put it through outside that. o_o

[Orothi]

9 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

oh wtf, ma bad didn't look closely. That's fine. Tell him to send 1 image like this. So he doesn't need to send like 15. 

If I had access to his computer I'd have already sent you that afterburner graph, but he lives 1100KM from here and he's not that tech savvy. It's not going to be easy lol but I'll try to explain him how to do it.

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, Imglidinhere said:

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Nah the 650rp6 passed with flying colors 

[Orothi]

He sent me these screenshots, he took them while playing Rainbow Six Siege, at around 5 minutes intervals, he said it was running at less than 30 FPS avg. dipping down to even 17FPS.

[D2ultima]

Brother, I think the man is playing on battery.

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, D2ultima said:

Brother, I think the man is playing on battery.

yep that seems very likely

[D2ultima]

53 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

yep that seems very likely

No, I mean, he took shots while playing R6 right? Alt tabbing and taking screenshots? His battery has been decreasing, with a maximum rating of "50% charge". The dude is almost certainly playing on battery.

[Dackzy]

21 minutes ago, D2ultima said:

No, I mean, he took shots while playing R6 right? Alt tabbing and taking screenshots? His battery has been decreasing, with a maximum rating of "50% charge". The dude is almost certainly playing on battery.

huh did not notice that