i7 5820k + 2x gtx 1070's vs i7 6900k + 1x gtx 1070

[VirusStorm]

I'm just going to go with the 5820k then thanks for all of your responses!

[Unexas.]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

But i'm also doing a lot of rendering. It seems like 10 cores would be a good comprimise

Ok... You are gaming. You need FAST CORES not 10 slow ones. Games only use 4 maybe 6 but not 10.

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, Unexas. said:

Ok... You are gaming. You need FAST CORES not 10 slow ones. Games only use 4 maybe 6 but not 10.

Yeah, i'm just going to go with the 5820k

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

Should I just go with a single 10 core xeon or 8 core xeon then? Or should I stick with the 5820k?

5820K, it is a beast. At 4.5GHz, it can match the performance of a stock 5960X. And, btw, those 8 and 10 core Xeons are very weak per core and an overclocked 5820K can match their multicore performance.

[VirusStorm]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

5820K, it is a beast. At 4.5GHz, it can match the performance of a stock 5960X. And, btw, those 8 and 10 core Xeons are very weak per core and an overclocked 5820K can match their multicore performance.

Wait, a 5820k oc'ed to 4.5ghz matches the performance of a 5960x? Even in rendering?

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

Wait, a 5820k oc'ed to 4.5ghz matches the performance of a 5960x? Even in rendering?

Yes. A stock 5960X. An overclocked 5960X absolutely destroys it...

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yes. A stock 5960X. An overclocked 5960X absolutely destroys it...

Wow, I guess I made the right decision

[NumLock21]

Or grab the newer 6800K for Turbo 3.0, where single core apps gets the boost it needs while you still get the best performance of both worlds. Rendering and gaming.

[VirusStorm]

13 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Or grab the newer 6800K for Turbo 3.0, where single core apps gets the boost it needs while you still get the best performance of both worlds. Rendering and gaming.

If I get that, I'll have to go with 16gb of ram instead of 32gb (I need the ram for zbrush)

 

Plus I'll be overclocking anyways  

[PCGuy_5960]

12 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Or grab the newer 6800K for Turbo 3.0, where single core apps gets the boost it needs while you still get the best performance of both worlds. Rendering and gaming.

If you care about the best possible performance, then the 5820K is the better option. The 6800K overclocks very poorly. Only the higher end Broadwell-E CPUs overclock well.

[NumLock21]

4 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

If I get that, I'll have to go with 16gb of ram instead of 32gb (I need the ram for zbrush)

 

Plus I'll be overclocking anyways  

Sacrifice the ram and go with 2 stick so of 16GB first, and get a 6800K. Then save up for the ram and grab another 16GB to make it to 32GB. Max ram for 5820K is 64GB at DDR4 2133. Max ram for 6800K is 128GB at DDR4 2400.

 

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If you care about the best possible performance, then the 5820K is the better option. The 6800K overclocks very poorly. Only the higher end Broadwell-E CPUs overclock well.

Features first than OC

 

[VirusStorm]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

If you care about the best possible performance, then the 5820K is the better option. The 6800K overclocks very poorly. Only the higher end Broadwell-E CPUs overclock well.

But then again, the 6800k has an IPC improvement...

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Features first than OC

Turbo-boost 3.0? You do know what per-core overclocking is, right?

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

Sacrifice the ram and go with 2 stick so of 16GB first, and get a 6800K. Then save up for the ram and grab another 16GB to make it to 32GB. Max ram for 5820K is 64GB at DDR4 2133. Max ram for 6800K is 128GB at DDR4 2400.

 

Features first than OC

 

is turbo boost 3.0 really worth it? I will be overclocking anyways so I dont really need it. But the 128 gb will be helpful so I will probably go with the 6800k. Will the 6800k work at 4.5ghz with an h100i v2? 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

But then again, the 6800k has an IPC improvement...

A small one. The 5820K clocks considerably higher than the 6800K though and it therefore performs better....

[VirusStorm]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

A small one. The 5820K clocks considerably higher than the 6800K though and it therefore performs better....

Will I be able to get 4.5ghz on the 6800k with an h100i v2? I know it depends on the silicon lottery, but what can I expect on average?

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

is turbo boost 3.0 really worth it? I will be overclocking anyways so I dont really need it. But the 128 gb will be helpful so I will probably go with the 6800k. Will the 6800k work at 4.5ghz with an h100i v2? 

4.3GHz if you are lucky. A 5820K is compatible with 128GB of RAM as well.... Many people have done it.

Turbo Boost 3.0 isn't worth it as you can overclock per core....

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

Will I be able to get 4.5ghz on the 6800k with an h100i v2? I know it depends on the silicon lottery, but what can I expect on average?

Average overclock for a 6800K is 4.1 to 4.2 GHz. 4.5GHz is pretty much impossible no matter how lucky you are. The 6850K overclocks better, but costs much more as well...

[VirusStorm]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Average overclock for a 6800K is 4.1 to 4.2 GHz. 4.5GHz is pretty much impossible no matter how lucky you are. The 6850K overclocks better, but costs much more as well...

I guess i'll go with the 5820k then 

[NumLock21]

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Turbo-boost 3.0? You do know what per-core overclocking is, right?

Yeah, and the 5820K won't have the advantages compared to a 6800K

7 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

is turbo boost 3.0 really worth it? I will be overclocking anyways so I dont really need it. But the 128 gb will be helpful so I will probably go with the 6800k. Will the 6800k work at 4.5ghz with an h100i v2? 

This should help you determine whether you need it or not.

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

I guess i'll go with the 5820k then 

Newer batches (Late 2015 and newer) can get to 4.6GHz. BTW, get a Kraken X61 or X62 because the H100i will be limiting your overclocks with the 5820K

[NumLock21]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Turbo-boost 3.0? You do know what per-core overclocking is, right?

 

3 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

is turbo boost 3.0 really worth it? I will be overclocking anyways so I dont really need it. But the 128 gb will be helpful so I will probably go with the 6800k. Will the 6800k work at 4.5ghz with an h100i v2? 

 

 

[VirusStorm]

2 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Yeah, and the 5820K won't have the advantages compared to a 6800K

This should help you determine whether you need it or not.

 

 

.....overclocking single cores? Whats the point of that? lol

[VirusStorm]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Newer batches (Late 2015 and newer) can get to 4.6GHz. BTW, get a Kraken X61 or X62 because the H100i will be limiting your overclocks with the 5820K

Won't fit in my case

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, VirusStorm said:

.....overclocking single cores? Whats the point of that? lol

For something that might need it and what is your budget?