Do you believe in a god?

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1 minute ago, MrDynamicMan said:

You can easily disprove the biblical god, many of the accounts of his actions are provably false

That doesn't directly disprove god though because those are claimed actions and not the claim of god existing. It's like me saying there is another identical species of humans in another galaxy, we have no feasible way of disproving the claim. You may dismiss the claim but that doesn't mean it was disproven.

[comicsansms]

13 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

That doesn't directly disprove god though because those are claimed actions and not the claim of god existing. It's like me saying there is another identical species of humans in another galaxy, we have no feasible way of disproving the claim. You may dismiss the claim but that doesn't mean it was disproven.

The fact is, if you pulled a group of babies and put them in a world without religion, they would eventually come up with their own completely different religion to any other religion on earth now. 

 

If there was a God, why the fuck would other competing religions exist? 

 

Religions are a great idea for a company, they hold people by the heart by giving them false hope while not getting taxed and getting free publicity everywhere. L. Ron Hubbard was a genius, he had a pre-existing fanbase from when he was a science-fiction writer and expanded that by marketing his religion at the weak and venerable (without brain washing children from birth, like most other religions do) and make it a pay to win system.

 

[Mooshi]

We have pizza. Clearly something divine is out there. 

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47 minutes ago, Energycore said:

I believe in our God and Overlord Nvidia

In the name of Intel, and of NVIDIA, and of Microsoft Windows ??

37 minutes ago, Elite14 said:

and to be honest there is plenty of evidence on both sides of the "does God exits or not" argument.

Of course, this debate will just continue for the years to come. But, it should be kept in mind that the burden of proof resides not on the person who questions the claim but on the person who makes the claim. I'm not saying that non-believers don't have a burden of proof but the bigger chunk of it would be on the hands of the believers. So whenever I have discussions like this, I tend to frame my argument on the positive. So instead of me saying "Gods doesn't exist". I'd rather say "The evidence proffered for the existence of gods are scanty and problematic." so to avoid another discussion of proving a negative.

1 hour ago, MrDynamicMan said:

It would feel intellectually dishonest for me to worship a being when I know pretty well that he doesnt exist.

The thing is. There are a lot of atheists who are still attending Church/Temple services not because they're dishonest but because they have to or else they'll lose their privileges or income sources. I mean my mom would still ask me to drive her to Church. I'll do it not because I still believe but because of love and respect to my mother who wants to go to Church. My mind may not be into the mass but I'd accompany her. 

 

1 hour ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Say for example there is an all powerful and omnipotent being. The question is that is this being able to create an infinitely heavy rock that not even said being can lift? If this being is can create this rock and is unable to lift it, then the being is not all powerful and omnipotent. If the being is unable to create a rock that not even it is unable to lift, then the being is not all powerful and omnipotent

That seems like a rehashed discussion of "The Problem of Evil". If one of the arguments of omnipotence, omniscience, and goodness is false. We are not discussing about God at all. 

 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, hey_yo_ said:

Of course, this debate will just continue for the years to come. But, it should be kept in mind that the burden of proof resides not on the person who questions the claim but on the person who makes the claim. I'm not saying that non-believers don't have a burden of proof but the bigger chunk of it would be on the hands of the believers. So whenever I have discussions like this, I tend to frame my argument on the positive. So instead of me saying "Gods doesn't exist". I'd rather say "The evidence proffered for the existence of gods are scanty and problematic." so to avoid another discussion of proving a negative.

What would you say if I told you that yes, god can't be rationally proven, but I've decided to believe on such a being anyway?

[Noyu]

Is it not this, Ms. Ives? The glory of life surmounts the fear of death.
Good Christian's fear Hellfire, so to avoid it they are kind to their fellow man.
Good pagans do not have this fear, so they can be who they are.
Good or ill, as their nature dictates.
We have no fear of God, so we are accountable to no one but each other.

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7 hours ago, Slick said:

Please know that if anyone starts a fight this thread will be nuked from orbit.

 

You have been warned. 

I came into a conclusion that Luke is like Archmage Khadgar and the forum mods are the Dalaran mages to keep the trolls out.

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He will never be the trolls pawn and this forum will not be its den.

 

[IOI-655321]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

I believe in our God and Overlord Nvidia

Nvidia, you mean the false prophet? AMD is the one true God, and I pray everyday for Christ to Ryzen again.

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3 minutes ago, IOI-655321 said:

Nvidia, you mean the false prophet? AMD is the one true God, and I pray everyday for Christ to Ryzen again.

Blasphemy! I'm making a mid tower temple and I'll be the high priest for Intel, NVIDIA, and Windows. 

[HughMungusCynicalAnarch]

Yes.

I believe some advanced civilization created the simulation in which we reside or if were not in a simulation some type 5 or type 6 civilization created this universe for some purpose such as a physics experiment or for entertainment or somehow an energy source or storage or it's a side effect of something they did and the universe's creation was by accident.

closer to that i believe that we were enhanced by extra terrestrials.

i find it hard to believe it took so long to create civilization given that humans were more intelligent thousands of years ago.

i do believe that religion is necessary to keep a society away from degeneration. just look at whats happened in the west with the family unit, there are few stable and productive marriages when compared to the mid 50s. lets also look at the party culture we have, utter degeneracy, hedonism. no greater prupose or drive just pleasure. then theres modern art, or as i simply call it garbage.

this societal glue doesnt have to be religion(and by religion i mean Christianity), it can be ideology.

i think a modified form of transhumanism infused with galactic manifest destiny and certain parts of national socialism with a lot of classical liberalism would be perfect.

im also starting to unironically believe in kek and meme magic.

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8 minutes ago, Energycore said:

What would you say if I told you that yes, god can't be rationally proven, but I've decided to believe on such a being anyway?

Then it's up to the person. I don't really have a life mission to tell anyone what they should and shouldn't believe. I respect the undividual's religious freedom as long as it doesn't cause chaos or harm to other people. If believing in god/s makes you a better person, who am I to take it away from you? If you want a fair and balanced discussion on the philosophy of religion, you can check out Hank Green's Crash Course Philosophy playlist. Check out episodes 9 to 13. ☺️

 

 

[IOI-655321]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Blasphemy! I'm making a mid tower temple and I'll be the high priest for Intel, NVIDIA, and Windows. 

Your Xeons might be more powerful, but your Gods are money hungry roosters. Stop your idolatry or we will have to send your console peasant self to the chambers at sennheiser.

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1 minute ago, IOI-655321 said:

Your Xeons might be more powerful, but your Gods are money hungry roosters. Stop your idolatry or we will have to send your console peasant self to the chambers at sennheiser.

Lord NVIDIA. I pray thee to smite the AMD pagans with the graphics power of your GTX-1080 and I ask blessing of Lord Intel to protect us from thermal throttling by your new Kaby Lake chips. ??

 

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[Energycore]

1 minute ago, hey_yo_ said:

Intel to protect us from thermal throttling by your new Kaby Lake chips

Lol considering a lot of Z270 motherboards are overvolting the shit out of Kaby

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4 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Lol considering a lot of Z270 motherboards are overvolting the shit out of Kaby

So Z170 for Kaby is safer, right or not quite?

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2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Lol considering a lot of Z270 motherboards are overvolting the shit out of Kaby

Smite the heathen who blaspheme lord Intel! ?????

 

 

Really? I don't know. 

[Energycore]

3 minutes ago, wcreek said:

So Z170 for Kaby is safer, right or not quite?

The safest thing to do is buy Z270 + Kaby, then go in and do the voltage manually. It will mean having to stress test, but you should stress test anyway.

3 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

Smite the heathen who blaspheme lord Intel! ?????

 

 

Really? I don't know. 

I think this video showsthe phenomenon, Tomshardware also has shown most if not all of the reviewed motherboards having weird behaviours when setting voltage to auto, or something similar.

[Nuluvius]

There is only one true god here, our Lord Linus, praise his reverent glory!

 

- Hallowed are the followers of Linus

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2 minutes ago, Nuluvius said:

There is only one true god here, our Lord Linus, praise his reverent glory!

 

- Hallowed are the followers of Linus

My allegiance is to Archmage Luke and his mages (aka forum mods). ?

[rn8686]

I believe in our one true lord and god, Gaben. 

 

Our Gaben,

Who art in Valve, Hallowed by thy name.

Thy Half-Life 3 come, thy puchase will be done, Online as it is in offline.

Give us this day our daily deals, and forgive us our guest passes, as we forgive those who guest pass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from Origin.

For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, forever and ever.

Gaben.

 

http://gaben.tv/

[MrDynamicMan]

2 hours ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

That doesn't directly disprove god though because those are claimed actions and not the claim of god existing. It's like me saying there is another identical species of humans in another galaxy, we have no feasible way of disproving the claim. You may dismiss the claim but that doesn't mean it was disproven.

Moreover, you have no way of proving that claim. I cna say that there is a big herd of invisible undetectable unicorns in the sky, and you couldnt disprove it. Burden of proof is on you. Your claim is assumed false unless evidence is provided.

[MrDynamicMan]

2 hours ago, HughMungusCynicalAnarch said:

Yes.

I believe some advanced civilization created the simulation in which we reside or if were not in a simulation some type 5 or type 6 civilization created this universe for some purpose such as a physics experiment or for entertainment or somehow an energy source or storage or it's a side effect of something they did and the universe's creation was by accident.

closer to that i believe that we were enhanced by extra terrestrials.

Punctuation. Try it.

there is as much evidence that we live in a simulation as there is we where created by a god. While the claim is interesting it is unfounded.

2 hours ago, HughMungusCynicalAnarch said:

i find it hard to believe it took so long to create civilization given that humans were more intelligent thousands of years ago.

Our intelligence hasnt changed afaik. It is because we created writ language and started recording facts and history that we started developing so quickly, along with the industrial revolution and a move towards specialised trade and globalisation.

2 hours ago, HughMungusCynicalAnarch said:

i do believe that religion is necessary to keep a society away from degeneration. just look at whats happened in the west with the family unit, there are few stable and productive marriages when compared to the mid 50s. lets also look at the party culture we have, utter degeneracy, hedonism. no greater prupose or drive just pleasure. then theres modern art, or as i simply call it garbage.

Currently I think humanity might be more driven than it ever has. Technology is advancing at a hilarious rate, population is trending towards a decrease, and (for the most part) we are the most peaceful we have ever been.

2 hours ago, HughMungusCynicalAnarch said:

this societal glue doesnt have to be religion(and by religion i mean Christianity), it can be ideology.

i think a modified form of transhumanism infused with galactic manifest destiny and certain parts of national socialism with a lot of classical liberalism would be perfect.

Galactic manifest destiny is bullshit. Its simply not true. National socialism is... Its literally the nazis. Classical liberalism and national socialism are in direct juxtoposition.

2 hours ago, HughMungusCynicalAnarch said:

im also starting to unironically believe in kek and meme magic.

That shows your intelligence level.

 

[Nuluvius]

59 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

That shows your intelligence level.

Here we go... You just had to start those obnoxious little noises of yours again didn't you 

[Tm_Carbon]

I've always thought about what do I lose if God isn't real? Sure if he's not then I wasted some time and money however if he is real then I get to go to heaven. Also I think there is more of evidence that he is real then not. To me it requires much more faith if you believe we came from a bacteria (not saying all atheists believe in evolution) than if there is a God and he created us. I am a bit curious though, for those of you who are atheists then how do you believe we got here?

[Teddy07]

Do i believe it? No

Do i hope he exists so life after death is real? Yes