Do you believe in a god?

[Natsoup]

I was just curious about how many people here are religious (or not). Thanks for your responses, guys.

[Mug]

Get ready for the flame war

[AlwaysFSX]

Why are both options able to be selected?

[Slick]

Please know that if anyone starts a fight this thread will be nuked from orbit.

 

You have been warned. 

[Natsoup]

8 minutes ago, Slick said:

Please know that if anyone starts a fight this thread will be nuked from orbit.

 

You have been warned. 

It's not for fighting. I'm personally investigating the beliefs of different corners of the net,  such as here, tumblr, ifunny, deviantart, and a few subreddits. 

Thanks for the warning, though. 

[Arty]

Naw, I don't, I am a man of logic, so if someone proved that thier was a god, then I would "believe" , until then I hold by, that religion was created to falsify hope in people. 

[Guest Kloaked]

13 minutes ago, Slick said:

Please know that if anyone starts a fight this thread will be nuked from orbit.

 

You have been warned. 

Wow, Luke. That triggers me that you would just ASSUME someone would start a fight, you.... bearded..man.. you... ....

[AlwaysFSX]

3 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Wow, Luke. That triggers me that you would just ASSUME someone would start a fight, you.... bearded..man.. you... ....

You're just jealous.

[Guest Kloaked]

2 minutes ago, Arty said:

Naw, I don't. I am a man of logic. So if someone proved that there was a God, then I would "believe". Until then I hold by, that religion was created to falsify hope in people. 

Checkmate.

 

 

But in seriousness, I am curious why Atheists tend to go for the "I am a person of logic" retort, as if nobody else who is into religion can't think logically. Or do you even mean it that way?

[captain_to_fire]

Here's my take on religion. I'm an agnostic atheist. But I don't hate religion unlike a lot of atheists out there. In fact, I love studying about religions and how they evolved and the process of turning natural events and celestial bodies into deities (anthropomorphization) to making human beings into gods (apotheosis). I would love to visit some of this historical religious sites like India, Greece, Israel, etc. While atheists like myself would consider all of these religions as myths, I don't dismiss them. In fact, learning religions can show us a deeper understanding of evolution and cultural heritage and the borrowing of ideas and doctrines through trade, conquest or travel in general. For example, I came across this fascinating archeological discovery in Turkey called "Gobeklie Tepé" which was said to be the first temple in the world which dates to around 12,000 BCE. This challenges the mainstream notion of scholars that religious worship started at 5,000 BCE where the earliest extant of writing started. There's so many fascinating books about this subject matter.

 

The thing is, I just find that the proffered evidences for the existence of these deities are scanty and problematic: historically, philosophically, and morally. Nonetheless, I have the utmost respect for an individual to believe or disbelieve anything as long as it doesn't spill deleteriously towards others which is not the case today. That's the time I tend to rant alot because belief and disbelief should not be coerced. 

[WolfDeville]

Not this again...

[TubsAlwaysWins]

My way of thinking is that whether or not there is one (I personally believe there is) it is better to be safe than sorry. So if there is and you believe in one, great. if there isn't, well you don't loose to much

[FmPhenom]

[Noyu]

1 hour ago, hey_yo_ said:

Here's my take on religion. I'm an agnostic atheist. But I don't hate religion unlike a lot of atheists out there. In fact, I love studying about religions and how they evolved and the process of turning natural events and celestial bodies into deities (anthropomorphization) to making human beings into gods (apotheosis). I would love to visit some of this historical religious sites like India, Greece, Israel, etc. While atheists like myself would consider all of these religions as myths, I don't dismiss them. In fact, learning religions can show us a deeper understanding of evolution and cultural heritage and the borrowing of ideas and doctrines through trade, conquest or travel in general. For example, I came across this fascinating archeological discovery in Turkey called "Gobeklie Tepé" which was said to be the first temple in the world which dates to around 12,000 BCE. This challenges the mainstream notion of scholars that religious worship started at 5,000 BCE where the earliest extant of writing started. There's so many fascinating books about this subject matter.

 

The thing is, I just find that the proffered evidences for the existence of these deities are scanty and problematic: historically, philosophically, and morally. Nonetheless, I have the utmost respect for an individual to believe or disbelieve anything as long as it doesn't spill deleteriously towards others which is not the case today. That's the time I tend to rant alot because belief and disbelief should not be coerced. 

What this guy said.

[PlayStation 2]

I personally don't care for religion, and if my signature didn't give away why, I guess you're left in the dark.

[Sky Daddy]

Step 1: verify that we are actually living in a 'real' world

    

[Dash Lambda]

5 hours ago, Kloaked said:

But in seriousness, I am curious why Atheists tend to go for the "I am a person of logic" retort, as if nobody who is into religion can think logically. Or do you even mean it that way?

Atheists have a rather distinct and dry perspective on the idea of a god, and sometimes that makes them get pretentious.

Religious people do it too, it's just sort of the buzzword thing, certain statements feel profound to say even though they're really not profound and probably not even accurate in their assumptions.

[MrDynamicMan]

6 hours ago, Slick said:

Please know that if anyone starts a fight this thread will be nuked from orbit.

 

You have been warned. 

The lord has spoken!

[MrDynamicMan]

3 hours ago, TubsAlwaysWins said:

My way of thinking is that whether or not there is one (I personally believe there is) it is better to be safe than sorry. So if there is and you believe in one, great. if there isn't, well you don't loose to much

Pascal's wager.

 

my retort would be that you lose opportunity in your life. Instead of going to that party on satirday night and meeting your future wife you go to church and never meet her. It would feel intellectually dishonest for me to worship a being when I know pretty well that he doesnt exist.

[2FA]

Not really due to the lack of being able to prove or disprove.

 

An interesting paradox: 

 

Say for example there is an all powerful and omnipotent being. The question is that is this being able to create an infinitely heavy rock that not even said being can lift? If this being is can create this rock and is unable to lift it, then the being is not all powerful and omnipotent. If the being is unable to create a rock that not even it is unable to lift, then the being is not all powerful and omnipotent. 

 

The interesting part is that technically both parts correct statements. 

[2FA]

7 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

Pascal's wager.

 

my retort would be that you lose opportunity in your life. Instead of going to that party on satirday night and meeting your future wife you go to church and never meet her. It would feel intellectually dishonest for me to worship a being when I know pretty well that he doesnt exist.

Well, in all technicality you don't know if said being doesn't exist because there is no possible way to prove or disprove its existence though I do agree with you.

[Energycore]

I believe in our God and Overlord Nvidia

[Elite14]

31 minutes ago, MrDynamicMan said:

Pascal's wager.

 

my retort would be that you lose opportunity in your life. Instead of going to that party on satirday night and meeting your future wife you go to church and never meet her. It would feel intellectually dishonest for me to worship a being when I know pretty well that he doesnt exist.

but the same thing can be said the other way around. Instead of going to church and meeting your future wife you go to that party saturday night and never meet her. and to be honest there is plenty of evidence on both sides of the "does God exits or not" argument.

 

 

not trying to start a fight, just debating.

[You_are_a_cunt]

Science is the one true deity. 

[MrDynamicMan]

31 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Well, in all technicality you don't know if said being doesn't exist because there is no possible way to prove or disprove its existence though I do agree with you.

You can easily disprove the biblical god, many of the accounts of his actions are provably false