New XPS 15 9560, no full speed Thunderbolt 3...

[Lillchillers]

Hi!

 

It´s been confirmed by dell that the Thunderbolt 3 port is the same as in the old model and won´t support speeds up to 40gbps because they still only use 2 PCIe lanes instead of 4. The XPS 13 2-1 will however have full thunderbolt speed.

 

I´ve been waiting a long time for the new dell XPS 15. I thought that I finally would get a portable professional laptop with good battery life and the power to play games without looking like a toy, and the option to use a eGPU later on when the 1050 wouldn´t be enough.

 

Do anyone recommend any other laptop that is similar but with full Thunderbolt 3 speeds?

[SirBillyMays]

Do you have any sources on that? I can only find "confirmations" from Dell support, but noone disproving it as of yet.

 

EDIT: I wouldn't doubt it knowing Dell, but I'm rather interested in finding any faults with the machine that is on it's way

 

[Pendragon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12G1VTFWkTL5tb8nxUAtnDHwTLyya9I3Vw-OXXrIN4e4/edit#gid=934244290

Zenbook U501VW is an alternative. Wait for the refresh. Failing that, 

My new offical fav eGPU laptop will be the Dell Latitude 14 5480. 7820HQ + no dGPU + TB3 port. Perfect. 

 

edit: the E5480 seems to only offer tb3 with a 930MX offering. hmmm. 

Edited January 18, 2017 by Pendragon
i was wrong

[Lillchillers]

2 hours ago, SirBillyMays said:

Do you have any sources on that? I can only find "confirmations" from Dell support, but noone disproving it as of yet.

 

EDIT: I wouldn't doubt it knowing Dell, but I'm rather interested in finding any faults with the machine that is on it's way

In the beginning the dell support was under the assumption that it would be PCIe x4. However it have changed. I´ve talk to 2 different people at DellCare Nordic which both told me that it was PCIe x 2, one of them even asked me to wait 2 days so he could get an answer from the "technical team". The conversations where not in English so don´t know if you want to read them

 

2 hours ago, Pendragon said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12G1VTFWkTL5tb8nxUAtnDHwTLyya9I3Vw-OXXrIN4e4/edit#gid=934244290

Zenbook U501VW is an alternative. Wait for the refresh. Failing that, 

My new offical fav eGPU laptop will be the Dell Latitude 14 5480. 7820HQ + no dGPU + TB3 port. Perfect. 

 

edit: the E5480 seems to only offer tb3 with a 930MX offering. hmmm. 

I need a dGPU because I need to game without a eGPU from time to time. I would like the laptop to be able to handle the games I play right know (CS GO, Dota 2, Overwatch). 1050 is enough for the games that I play. The eGPU is more fore the future, so I dont have to buy a new laptop just when the 1050 is not enough. I was thinking of the Razer blade with a Dbrand skin as an alternative, even tho it has 1489412 problems. I really value portability and look. I can´t manage a computer which is designed for a 12 year old. Money is not a problem. I don´t have room for a desktop rig at my apartment.

[Lillchillers]

On further investigation, the Dell support in UK have said that it is PCIe x 4. Let´s just hope that Dell Nordic have no clue what they are talking about .

[SirBillyMays]

@Lillchillers: Feel free to post them, I'm personally in the Nordic region myself

 

Various support teams have said various things, if you'd like I can personally confirm it when I get my XPS 9560 (it should arrive before 13.2.2017), but someone else have probably checked it before me...

 

Can I ask how you got in contact with them btw? I can never get the chat to work, and I can't be bothered to find an email

[Eason85]

I've asked a source at dell (same one who told us the details about the fingerprint scanner) to confirm this.

[SirBillyMays]

@Eason85: Mind coming back to us about that, should you receive a clear answer?

 

According to a customer service representative, it is apparently running 4x - but I'd take it with a grain of salt. Again: I'll doublecheck when I have my unit in hand, but if someone gets a clear answer beforehand I suppose we'll know anyway

[D2ultima]

Dell US page states it's thunderbolt 3 40Gb/s.

 

Note that that 40Gb/s is actually 32Gb/s because the DMI can't handle more. 40Gb/s is a marketing loophole that works because thunderbolt 3 itself is designed to handle up to 40Gb/s, but existing chipsets can't do it.

 

They're using Kaby Lake chipset which has more PCI/e chipset lanes, so I don't see why it's got a problem with providing the full bandwidth support.

[Eason85]

2 hours ago, SirBillyMays said:

@Eason85: Mind coming back to us about that, should you receive a clear answer?

 

According to a customer service representative, it is apparently running 4x - but I'd take it with a grain of salt. Again: I'll doublecheck when I have my unit in hand, but if someone gets a clear answer beforehand I suppose we'll know anyway

Of course! He replied immediately saying he would forward the question to the engineering team- but he himself anticipated it would be the same from the 9550. 

[Imglidinhere]

17 hours ago, Pendragon said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12G1VTFWkTL5tb8nxUAtnDHwTLyya9I3Vw-OXXrIN4e4/edit#gid=934244290

Zenbook U501VW is an alternative. Wait for the refresh. Failing that, 

My new offical fav eGPU laptop will be the Dell Latitude 14 5480. 7820HQ + no dGPU + TB3 port. Perfect. 

 

edit: the E5480 seems to only offer tb3 with a 930MX offering. hmmm. 

That IS enticing to know about actually... Hell... it might even warrant disabling the dGPU entirely if possible...  

[Lillchillers]

On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 at 1:11 PM, SirBillyMays said:

@Lillchillers: Feel free to post them, I'm personally in the Nordic region myself

 

Various support teams have said various things, if you'd like I can personally confirm it when I get my XPS 9560 (it should arrive before 13.2.2017), but someone else have probably checked it before me...

 

Can I ask how you got in contact with them btw? I can never get the chat to work, and I can't be bothered to find an email

You speak finish?

Here is a source in english:

 

[SirBillyMays]

Can understand it to some degree

 

Damn, that's a bummer... Let's hope that they get it right next time then! Personally I don't mind that much, but if they fix it in a generation or two I might actually sell the one I'm waiting on now

 

But then again, I bought it for the screen, CPU, battery capacity, price and size, so I don't think it's going to be an issue for me.

[Walkeer_CZ]

XPS 9560 has only 2 lanes: https://www.dell.com/support/article/cz/cs/czdhs1/qna44089/thunderbolt-3-40gbps-data-transfer-rate?lang=en