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FreedomDive
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Hi, I've always wanted to build a gaming PC and i finally have the money to do so, the only problem is i'm having trouble picking some of the parts.

I'm trying to find a 1440p 144hz monitor to replace my G2222HDL Senseye3 monitor that is no longer in production. I'm looking for a decent amount of fps (above 60 on the highest settings) so i opted out of the 4k because i don't think (from what i've researched) it will run fps consistently over 60 in multi player and single player fps games. If you think my set up can run 4k on games like BF1, Dark souls 3, GTAV, Fallout 4 on 60+ fps settings in single and multi than i'd really love to know. I'm having trouble finding a good 1440P 144hz monitor because it seems at the moment there aren't a lot of them on the market, mostly 60hz, no where near the amount of 4k monitors.

 

TLDR: Need new Monitor, has to be 144hz. Choosing between 1440p and 4k, looking for over 60 fps max setting consistently in fps single and multi. Budget: up to $800 CAD

Thank you for your time and suggestions everyone :) 

Q/A:

-What is your intended use for this build?

Mainly for gaming and watching videos on the side, was also thinking of starting to stream as streaming with my current 5 year old set up is kinda hard (I have good enough internet).


-If gaming, what kind of performance are you looking for? (Screen resolution, FPS, game settings)

1440P/4k 144hz, above 60fps - highest settings on games like bf1, fallout 4, gta5 ect...


-What is your budget (ballpark is okay)?

Up to $800 would be great (CAD) (Only for the monitor)


-In what country are you purchasing your parts?

Canada

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My future set up: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/psmbVY

Some parts below are temporary that i don't have or decided on yet: the monitor, case, ram, cooler and motherboard. 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/psmbVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/psmbVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($725.36 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($269.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($217.95 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.94 @ Vuugo) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.94 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($814.99 @ NCIX) 
Case: Inwin 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($209.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: Pixio PX277 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($390.00) 
Total: $2694.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 02:23 EST-0500

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I would have recommended going with an Asus monitor but that's just me and my opinion, it does feature some better specs compared to the one monitor you already have in your list, but it is also a bit more expensive.

 

ASUS MG278Q

Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.

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1 minute ago, ZothOmmog said:

I would have recommended going with an Asus monitor but that's just me and my opinion, it does feature some better specs compared to the one monitor you already have in your list, but it is also a bit more expensive.

 

ASUS MG278Q

Thanks for your suggestion,i have been suggested that monitor from someone else as well. Definitely gonna look into it. I've also been

recommended: 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t4Crxr/acer-monitor-umhg0aa001

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg

 

do you know how these compare to the asus one? 

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1 hour ago, FreedomDive said:

Thanks for your suggestion,i have been suggested that monitor from someone else as well. Definitely gonna look into it. I've also been

recommended: 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t4Crxr/acer-monitor-umhg0aa001

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg

 

do you know how these compare to the asus one? 

Well it's quite easy to compare the Acer and the Asus monitors since they both offer the same panel type, refresh rate and response time, the only difference you will find with the Asus is the height adjustment and pivot other than that both are 144hz 1440p FreeSync monitors.

 

Now the Dell monitor is only different in one way, it uses the NVIDIA G-Sync instead of FreeSync, so if you are planning on going with a GTX card then I would go with G-Sync model if your wallet is okay with it. But G-Sync is also much more expensive.

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I have the Asus ROG PG279Q (the GSync one) and it's an incredible monitor.  Let me put it to you this way: I *despise* matte finish monitors and despite that the performance was absolutely night and day when compared to my Korean overclocked monitor (a true 110hz overclock, no frame skipping).  Having ULMB enabled for virtually no motion blur, faster response and no input lag is outstanding.  It's expensive, but worth every penny IMO.

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6 minutes ago, aithos said:

I have the Asus ROG PG279Q (the GSync one) and it's an incredible monitor.  Let me put it to you this way: I *despise* matte finish monitors and despite that the performance was absolutely night and day when compared to my Korean overclocked monitor (a true 110hz overclock, no frame skipping).  Having ULMB enabled for virtually no motion blur, faster response and no input lag is outstanding.  It's expensive, but worth every penny IMO.

Thanks for your opinion, every single one i'm told honestly counts towards me choosing which monitor. Just to make sure i'm getting it right, you think the extra cost for the G-sync is worth it over the Free-Sync monitor?

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2 minutes ago, FreedomDive said:

Thanks for your opinion, every single one i'm told honestly counts towards me choosing which monitor. Just to make sure i'm getting it right, you think the extra cost for the G-sync is worth it over the Free-Sync monitor?

I would say yes if you are going with a GTX card, or you could try to if you aren't picky to find a used Asus ROG PG278Q monitor it's basically the same monitor but older and less refresh rate, the new PG279Q features a whopping 165Hz, I haven't used it but I can't imagine you would see much of a difference between 144 and 165..  But that might just be me.

 

pst I have an old and used PG278Q if you are interested. But I'm not forcing you. :)

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23 minutes ago, FreedomDive said:

Thanks for your opinion, every single one i'm told honestly counts towards me choosing which monitor. Just to make sure i'm getting it right, you think the extra cost for the G-sync is worth it over the Free-Sync monitor?

If you are going to run an nVidia GPU and you think there is any chance that you'll dip below 90 FPS: yes.  If you can maintain an rock solid 120+ FPS then GSync isn't going to do anything for you except add input lag.  I bought the GSync because it was the first one available, but you can't use GSync and ULMB at the same time so I choose the latter because it's far more important to remove frame permanence when you can maintain a decent frame-rate.  IE: I have the GSync one but at no point has it ever been enabled, so if the FreeSync one also includes ULMB and your FPS is solid then there is no reason to spend the extra money.

 

18 minutes ago, ZothOmmog said:

I would say yes if you are going with a GTX card, or you could try to if you aren't picky to find a used Asus ROG PG278Q monitor it's basically the same monitor but older and less refresh rate, the new PG279Q features a whopping 165Hz, I haven't used it but I can't imagine you would see much of a difference between 144 and 165..  But that might just be me.

 

pst I have an old and used PG278Q if you are interested. But I'm not forcing you. :)

It isn't just older and less refresh rate, it's also a TN panel while the newer model is an IPS/PLS.  There is no way I would even consider the PG278Q if you have the budget to look at a high end monitor.  I also believe the PG278Q does not include ULMB in the OSD, which for people who aren't using GSync is a *huge* benefit as it eliminates the frame persistence (as I mentioned above) and ensures there isn't motion blur.

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1 hour ago, aithos said:

It isn't just older and less refresh rate, it's also a TN panel while the newer model is an IPS/PLS.  There is no way I would even consider the PG278Q if you have the budget to look at a high end monitor.  I also believe the PG278Q does not include ULMB in the OSD, which for people who aren't using GSync is a *huge* benefit as it eliminates the frame persistence (as I mentioned above) and ensures there isn't motion blur.

Nor did I even say that it would be superior in any way, I was just hinting that if money is a problem and at this moment it looks like everything on the Canadian computer market is very expensive. And it does have the ULMB according to Asus.

 

But anyway whatever OP wants.

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1 minute ago, ZothOmmog said:

Nor did I even say that it would be superior in any way, I was just hinting that if money is a problem and at this moment it looks like everything on the Canadian computer market is very expensive. And it does have the ULMB according to Asus.

 

But anyway whatever OP wants.

I wonder if they went back and updated the bios/OSD of the older model, I swear it didn't have ULMB but maybe I'm just mistaken about that.  I just wanted to make sure the OP was aware of the difference, because they are much different monitors despite being the same size, resolution and mostly the same refresh rate.  Not that its a bad monitor, just not what I'd be looking at. 

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11 minutes ago, aithos said:

I wonder if they went back and updated the bios/OSD of the older model, I swear it didn't have ULMB but maybe I'm just mistaken about that.  I just wanted to make sure the OP was aware of the difference, because they are much different monitors despite being the same size, resolution and mostly the same refresh rate.  Not that its a bad monitor, just not what I'd be looking at. 

I understand.

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On 1/17/2017 at 11:29 AM, ZothOmmog said:

I would say yes if you are going with a GTX card, or you could try to if you aren't picky to find a used Asus ROG PG278Q monitor it's basically the same monitor but older and less refresh rate, the new PG279Q features a whopping 165Hz, I haven't used it but I can't imagine you would see much of a difference between 144 and 165..  But that might just be me.

 

pst I have an old and used PG278Q if you are interested. But I'm not forcing you. :)

Haha thanks for the offer, i'll keep that in mind. Still looking and doing research to find out which one though. 

 

On 1/17/2017 at 11:51 AM, aithos said:

If you are going to run an nVidia GPU and you think there is any chance that you'll dip below 90 FPS: yes.  If you can maintain an rock solid 120+ FPS then GSync isn't going to do anything for you except add input lag.  I bought the GSync because it was the first one available, but you can't use GSync and ULMB at the same time so I choose the latter because it's far more important to remove frame permanence when you can maintain a decent frame-rate.  IE: I have the GSync one but at no point has it ever been enabled, so if the FreeSync one also includes ULMB and your FPS is solid then there is no reason to spend the extra money.

 

It isn't just older and less refresh rate, it's also a TN panel while the newer model is an IPS/PLS.  There is no way I would even consider the PG278Q if you have the budget to look at a high end monitor.  I also believe the PG278Q does not include ULMB in the OSD, which for people who aren't using GSync is a *huge* benefit as it eliminates the frame persistence (as I mentioned above) and ensures there isn't motion blur.

Thank you a lot for this, as well as ZothOmmog for your opinions on the G-Sync vs Free-Sync with me having a GTX card. I'm going to %100 get a g-sync monitor now. Also still up for anymore suggestions anyone might have and i'll update soon what i'm thinking of getting after i'm done my research.

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3 hours ago, FreedomDive said:

Haha thanks for the offer, i'll keep that in mind. Still looking and doing research to find out which one though.

Sorry it got sold.

 

But don't expect it to be cheap, I looked at the Canadian market and prices do seem to go all hell breaks loose.

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