[RUMOUR] 32GB macbook coming later this year

[Sauron]

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

You dont see Linus ragging on the XPS though do you? 

That's because the XPS, overpriced or not, is better than the mbp in quite a few fields and especially the ones Linus is personally interested in.

2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

The issue is blown way out of proportion though. And yes, I did forget to mention the quad cores, but they are still very weak compared to even a desktop i5. If you are doing serious rendering work you arent going to be using a macbook

Are they? A friend of mine benchmarked his 15" 2015 model and it got VERY close to a desktop i5.

[| Rembo |]

wow they added more ram looks like we get less battery for an extra 1500$ WOOHOOO

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

That's because the XPS, overpriced or not, is better than the mbp in quite a few fields and especially the ones Linus is personally interested in.

For example...

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Are they? A friend of mine benchmarked his 15" 2015 model and it got VERY close to a desktop i5.

IIRC the 2015 model had a faster model quad core compared to the newer Skylake CPUs. And again, if you are a serious user, you are going to have an i7 or a Xeon

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

For example...

For example expandability.

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

IIRC the 2015 model had a faster model quad core compared to the newer Skylake CPUs. And again, if you are a serious user, you are going to have an i7 or a Xeon

That's possible, but again this would be a further weakness of the new model, not a justification for other issues. You could be a serious user who needs to travel, hence someone who needs a laptop - have you considered that? Unless you're willing to bring with you your desktop with all the xeons you want, you'll have to come to a compromise. That doesn't mean you won't want the best performance you can get on your laptop, it will be slower than a desktop but that doesn't mean it has to be complete garbage either.

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

For example expandability.

That's possible, but again this would be a further weakness of the new model, not a justification for other issues. You could be a serious user who needs to travel, hence someone who needs a laptop - have you considered that? Unless you're willing to bring with you your desktop with all the xeons you want, you'll have to come to a compromise. That doesn't mean you won't want the best performance you can get on your laptop, it will be slower than a desktop but that doesn't mean it has to be complete garbage either.

Then why wouldnt you be like Linus and the crew and bring high end workstation laptops? If you really need to do productivity work you can sacrafice some luggage space for a big laptop

 

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

For example expandability.

I don't know about the series as a whole, but the one I linked to had soldered on RAM.  I consider that a dirty tactic.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

Then why wouldnt you be like Linus and the crew and bring high end workstation laptops? If you really need to do productivity work you can sacrafice some luggage space for a big laptop

 

What is your obsession with bringing Linus into this?  He's not on this thread.

[Clanscorpia]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

What is your obsession with bringing Linus into this?  He's not on this thread.

Because people often follow him and hes a good example of a proffesional

[Sauron]

8 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Then why wouldnt you be like Linus and the crew and bring high end workstation laptops? If you really need to do productivity work you can sacrafice some luggage space for a big laptop

Well then what is a mulltiple-thousand-bucks machine like the mbp even for? It's not just about bringing it with you in the luggage, it's about using it while you are moving, not to mention that desktop-like "laptops" often have very low battery lives because of the high power draw (and by the way, the mbp fails even in this field because they halved the battery for the sake of 3mm nobody cared about). Other manufacturers offer high power laptops that do this sort of thing, often for cheaper than the mbp too.

 

The truth is that the mbp is not "pro" at all, it's a facebook machine. And quite frankly a facebook machine has no right to cost over 1200$.

8 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I don't know about the series as a whole, but the one I linked to had soldered on RAM.  I consider that a dirty tactic.

I agree, still more expandable than the mbp by a long shot given the port variety and (I think) replaceable storage.

[Clanscorpia]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Well then what is a mulltiple-thousand-bucks machine like the mbp even for? It's not just about bringing it with you in the luggage, it's about using it while you are moving, not to mention that desktop-like "laptops" often have very low battery lives because of the high power draw (and by the way, the mbp fails even in this field because they halved the battery for the sake of 3mm nobody cared about). Other manufacturers offer high power laptops that do this sort of thing, often for cheaper than the mbp too.

 

The truth is that the mbp is not "pro" at all, it's a facebook machine. And quite frankly a facebook machine has no right to cost over 1200$.

I agree, still more expandable than the mbp by a long shot given the port variety and (I think) replaceable storage.

For say a game dev who needs the APIs available on MacBook in a light package. Or for college students who need programs available only on macOS. Its definitely not for say a video editor

[Sauron]

3 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

For say a game dev who needs the APIs available on MacBook in a light package. Or for college students who need programs available only on macOS. Its definitely not for say a video editor

Hmm, why would a game dev of all things want macOS apis? And I'd love to hear an example of an industry standard program that isn't available on windows.

[Clanscorpia]

9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Hmm, why would a game dev of all things want macOS apis? And I'd love to hear an example of an industry standard program that isn't available on windows.

To make a game on macOS? And that I dont know, I do know they exist but not exact names

[JoostinOnline]

9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Hmm, why would a game dev of all things want macOS apis? And I'd love to hear an example of an industry standard program that isn't available on windows.

So they could make their games Mac-compatible.

[Sauron]

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

To make a game on macOS? And that I dont know, I do know they exist but not exact names

I'm pretty sure they don't exist.

5 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

So they could make their games Mac-compatible.

So... a computer designed for people who develop for that computer? That's the ultimate circlejerk...

[MeepLikesToBuildPc's]

People can't stop arguing over apple huh? Like, jeez, what's your problem? Let Apple do their thing and let the people that buy apple do their thing. I myself have a 256GB 7Plus, iPad mini 4, and my self-built PC runs MacOS. But I love windows too, all of my laptops are equipped with Win10 and I enjoy android too. can we just all get along?

[Clanscorpia]

22 minutes ago, MeepLikesToBuildPc's said:

People can't stop arguing over apple huh? Like, jeez, what's your problem? Let Apple do their thing and let the people that buy apple do their thing. I myself have a 256GB 7Plus, iPad mini 4, and my self-built PC runs MacOS. But I love windows too, all of my laptops are equipped with Win10 and I enjoy android too. can we just all get along?

Preach man

[JoostinOnline]

2 hours ago, MeepLikesToBuildPc's said:

People can't stop arguing over apple huh? Like, jeez, what's your problem? Let Apple do their thing and let the people that buy apple do their thing. I myself have a 256GB 7Plus, iPad mini 4, and my self-built PC runs MacOS. But I love windows too, all of my laptops are equipped with Win10 and I enjoy android too. can we just all get along?

At least for me, it's got nothing to do with brands.  I'm not bashing all Apple products.  I'm saying that Apple shouldn't be bullshitting customers any more than other companies should.  Every company has done it at one point or another, and every time I disagree with it.

[Commodus]

4 hours ago, Clanscorpia said:

To make a game on macOS? And that I dont know, I do know they exist but not exact names

There are a few gaming-related APIs on the Mac, in fact:

 

- Metal (low-level graphics API -- it actually predates Vulkan)

- OpenGL (it's an OS-independent standard, but it's good to test on Mac hardware)

- GameKit (social elements like Game Center)

- And of course, anything to do with iOS development

 

At any rate, if the analyst note is accurate, this year's MBP refresh will at least address some of the gripes people had on launch.  You can definitely do some heavy lifting on a MacBook Pro -- it just needs more RAM for extra-intensive tasks.

[alizaidi2000]

The solution is to wait for ryzen.

[Paragon_X]

Awesome, if the price cut is right and i can pick up a base one at around 1300 euro. i might do it.

[TroubleKlef]

Excited to get the refreshed tbMBP. The prices should be a bit lower and all the bugs from the first generation should be sorted out.

[Thomas_baas]

Maybe this thread is going to be shown in wan shown... Hope so

[JoostinOnline]

9 minutes ago, Thomas_baas said:

Maybe this thread is going to be shown in wan shown... Hope so

In case it does

@Linus Your double earrings look weird!

[Kamina]

Trash. They're just a pretty chromebook. 

[Energycore]

Glad to hear that's 32GB RAM and not 32GB system storage, I wouldn't put it past Apple to do such a thing then market it to professionals