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Core i3 7350K Overclockable Dual Core Review

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jesus fucking christ what is that unholy abomination of a thumbnail


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... Okay.

Okay...

Now I really get what people are talking about with the new thumbnails.

This is the first video from LTT I decided not to watch because of the thumbnail.


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I LOVE that thumbnail. I would love to see this thumbnail return with the Zen CPU reviews if you use tabasco bottles in between the CPUs.


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Okay well that i3 is not that bad.

But it will cost you more in the end. To run that i3 at 5GHz, you need Z270 motherboard.

For i5 7400 you don't need such expencive motherboard.

 

Also power usage of that i3 at 5GHz is more than from i5. Same goes with temperatures. Not everyone can cool 1,4V or 1,35V, while i5 7400 doesn't have any thermal problems even with stock cooler.

Another thing to concider is silicon lottery. I'm pretty sure not all chips will be able to overclock to 5GHz. Some might go only to 4,7GHz, so there is that risk also.

 

So yeah that i3 is interesting but in the end I don't think it's worth it.

That's just how I see it.


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I'm confused. What makes that i3 so good o.O. Don't they both have the same ipc? If so, shouldn't it be  (cores * usage) * hertz? or am I missing something

 

 

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Why are you testing a CPU with a 4k resolution? You do know that a i5 750 overclocked 3.7Ghz can run most games with overclocked GTX 1080 at little or no loss of framerate compared to a i7 4790k overclocked to 4.5Ghz @4k

linky here: 



I'm trying to keep it civil and get across how... ... ... breath ... ... ... Taking a vape on my e-cig... ... ... getting the thesaurus to find less insulting words to use... ... ... inane, ill-advised, irrelevant, laughable, half baked and nonsensical it was to use a 4k resolution to benchmark a CPU.

The words to describe how ridiculous it was to do that literally escaped me, that is how bad it was. Well the words didn't escape me but I didn't think it was a good idea to use the words that came to mind.

Don't do that in future, high resolutions like 4k and 1440p should be used to test GPU's lower resolutions like 1080p and 720p should be used to benchmark CPU's because CPU's are barely effected by resolution increases while resolutions are basically completely bound by the GPU.

And this isn't the frist time you have done this either, make a mistake once ok fine, it's fine. Twice, ok that was a little annoying just leave a comment saying, "why?" Three time well obviously you need me to spell out why what you did was wrong in place where you will actually read it.

Get you s*** together LTT

If you pull this again for the Ryzen review I'll just unsub because your obviously not a good place to get reviews because your testing methodology sucks. 

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Usually I don't really have anything to complain about but here's the quote of my comment from YouTube...

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A few things in this made me raise an eyebrow...

  1. You used a GTX 1080 hoping to remove GPU bottlenecks, but then cranked graphics to the limit at 4K... why not run medium settings at 1080p? That's how you get the GPU out of the picture.
  2. You don't expect DX12 and Vulkan to have a noticeable impact on game performance for a while yet? Vulkan already does, by quite a bit. Admittedly not in many titles (I'm thinking only of Doom myself), but it does help.

 

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LTT you uploaded a bugged cinebench score. i5 should not perform that low. The 6400 did 496 on cinebench. And if you make 150 single core performance * 4 you should get around 600. Actually its 545 based on other sources.  You are the only site that recommends the i3 7350k with every other youtuber getting better scores on both synthetic and real world benchmarks.

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Okay, these thumbnails are getting a bit out of hand now. It was all right for the CES videos, but for main uploads...


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I won't beat this dead horse since @Ryan_Vickers and @qepsilonp already pointed it out for me, but please work on your testing methodologies in the future. It's starting to get out of hand. 


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17 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I won't beat this dead horse since @Ryan_Vickers and @qepsilonp already pointed it out for me, but please work on your testing methodologies in the future. It's starting to get out of hand. 

They have such a big team now too.. and not one person pointed it out in the production of the video. I don't really get it o.O 

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5 minutes ago, Wolther said:

They have such a big team now too.. and not one person pointed it out in the production of the video. I don't really get it o.O 

Seems like they've been getting lazier and more clickbaity.  Less effort/research put into the actual content, more into production quality and advertising etc. 


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5 minutes ago, Wolther said:

They have such a big team now too.. and not one person pointed it out in the production of the video. I don't really get it o.O 

I've been trying to figure out what possible excuse they could have for wanting to show 4k results on a CPU review, but I honestly cannot think of any. The sad part is, people are going to buy this CPU, thinking it will be no different than an i7 in gaming because they decided to show 4k results (and mostly average framerates too). When the people buy this product, and use it on their budget 1080p setups, they are going to wonder why their i3 is stuttering hard in titles like BF4 and GTA 5. 

 

This has been my issue with LTT for a while now. They are quick to jump to these conclusions without giving their methodology a second thought, then proclaim it as a fact to their viewerbase. When you point it out to them, nothing changes. No re-do's on the videos, and if you are extremely lucky, you get a pseudo-statement on the subject that is basically them not admitting fault, and saying the end result is still the same (without ever really showing that evidence either). 

 

I only hope people are smart enough to check multiple review sources before going out to make a purchase decision. Luckily, some of the youtube comments caught on to this as well, and are being highly thumbed up for others to see. 


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3 minutes ago, stelan1999 said:

Nice video - Please do the how to OC z170/z270 with a Asus Mobo ;D

 

I'd bet there are literally dozens of videos/guides online. Some quite in depth I'm more than 100% sure. 


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3 minutes ago, stelan1999 said:

Nice video - Please do the how to OC z170/z270 with a Asus Mobo ;D

 

Better off watching this, there's a few different parts of it, but at least he knows what he's doing.

 

 


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