Tesla announced prices for charging on their SuperCharging stations

[WereCat]

Written from phone...will edit later.

Source: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/supercharging?redirect=no

 

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Below are additional program details which apply to Model S and X ordered after January 15, 2017.

400 kWh (~1,000 miles) of Supercharger credits are awarded annually.

For usage above the complimentary annual credits provided, a small fee applies.

In North America, pricing is fixed within each state or province. Internationally, pricing is fixed within each country. All prices include taxes and fees.

Where possible, owners are billed per kWh (kilowatt-hour), which is the most fair and simple method. In other areas, we bill for the service per minute.

When billing per minute, there are two tiers to account for changes in charging speeds, called “tier 1” and “tier 2”.

Tier 1 applies while cars are charging at or below 60 kW and tier 2 applies while cars are charging above 60 kW. Tier 1 is half the cost of tier 2.

Tier 1 also applies anytime your vehicle is sharing Supercharger power with another car.

Supercharger pricing information may be viewed on the 17” touchscreen and is summarized below.

Supercharging is simple and convenient—just plug in and charge up. Supercharging history is automatically populated in your website account showing the credits used or, if applicable, the amount billed. Tesla is committed to ensuring that Supercharger will never be a profit center.

 

 

Quite a bit expensive in my opinion compared to what we got now. IF we are charging only on the stations. It will be cheaper in the long run .

For example in my country (Slovakia) the price for kWh are 0.20€ which is about 50% more compared to what we pay at home.

(Detailed pricing for various countries in the source link).

 

Examples:
Great Britain - > 0.20£ kWh

Germany - > 0.34€ minute for T2, 0.17€ minute for T1

Sweden - > 1.90SEK kWh

 

 

[WORM]

11 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Written from phone...will edit later.

Source: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/supercharging?redirect=no

 

 

Quite a bit expensive in my opinion compared to what we got now. (detailed pricing in the source)

For example in my country (Slovakia) the price for kWh are 0.20€ which is about 50% more compared to what we pay at home.

ayy, my friends dad has a P100D no joke 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, hes the CEO of sloan, uk like every toilet and automatic sink ever created 

[Thony]

Was gonna say u left out the most important part, the price. But you saved it in your comment. 

 

Greetings fellow Slovak

[Tech_Dreamer]

it's a good start i guess, but i would like to see the prices drop each consecutive 5 years or so so it becomes a legit alternate for regular folks to shift to

[brwainer]

3 hours ago, WereCat said:

Written from phone...will edit later.

Source: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/supercharging?redirect=no

 

 

Quite a bit expensive in my opinion compared to what we got now. (detailed pricing in the source)

For example in my country (Slovakia) the price for kWh are 0.20€ which is about 50% more compared to what we pay at home.

The point of superchargers isn't for you to charge up your car like you would use a pump at a gas station with a normal car - it's meant for very fast charging while on long distance trips, with the bulk of your charging happening at home or your destinations. Of course the power is going to be more expensive, because it's paying for the maintenance of the superchargers and the building of new locations in the network. They say "Tesla is committed to ensuring that Supercharger will never be a profit center." which to me means that if the price they charge for power becomes unjustified by the maintenance of the superchargers, it will be lowered.

[WereCat]

1 hour ago, brwainer said:

The point of superchargers isn't for you to charge up your car like you would use a pump at a gas station with a normal car - it's meant for very fast charging while on long distance trips, with the bulk of your charging happening at home or your destinations. Of course the power is going to be more expensive, because it's paying for the maintenance of the superchargers and the building of new locations in the network. They say "Tesla is committed to ensuring that Supercharger will never be a profit center." which to me means that if the price they charge for power becomes unjustified by the maintenance of the superchargers, it will be lowered.

I agree, I concluded to the same opinion when I was thinking about it in work + people that can afford Tesla most likely dont care about such prices anyway + 400kWh free each year is basicaly 80€ (if we count 0.20€ kWh) which is also nice for emergency charging.

[Yoinkerman]

5 hours ago, brwainer said:

The point of superchargers isn't for you to charge up your car like you would use a pump at a gas station with a normal car - it's meant for very fast charging while on long distance trips, with the bulk of your charging happening at home or your destinations. Of course the power is going to be more expensive, because it's paying for the maintenance of the superchargers and the building of new locations in the network. They say "Tesla is committed to ensuring that Supercharger will never be a profit center." which to me means that if the price they charge for power becomes unjustified by the maintenance of the superchargers, it will be lowered.

Commercial electricity rates are already hugely lower than residential though.  It doesn't make sense for them to be so much more than even residential.

[FloRolf]

Oh wtf Germany. 

 

[dizmo]

Really had to put a place holder post to make sure you were the one to post about it did you

Makes sense that it's more expensive. You're charging more than 10x the rate you get from the high speed home charger.

 

11 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

it's a good start i guess, but i would like to see the prices drop each consecutive 5 years or so so it becomes a legit alternate for regular folks to shift to

How is this not a viable alternative even at its current cost?

Take the GB for example, and a high performance 4 door gas powered saloon. M5 for sake of numbers.

• Tesla says 170 miles from 120kwh charge. 0.20 pound per kwh makes that 24 pound to go 170 miles.
• BMW says the M5 gets 16 mpg. Gas in GB is currently about 1.20 pound per liter, or 4.63 a gallon. Cost of 49 pound to go the same distance.

It's a lot cheaper. Not to mention it's not meant to be something that's used all the time. If you have a car, you have a home.

 

8 hours ago, brwainer said:

The point of superchargers isn't for you to charge up your car like you would use a pump at a gas station with a normal car - it's meant for very fast charging while on long distance trips, with the bulk of your charging happening at home or your destinations. Of course the power is going to be more expensive, because it's paying for the maintenance of the superchargers and the building of new locations in the network. They say "Tesla is committed to ensuring that Supercharger will never be a profit center." which to me means that if the price they charge for power becomes unjustified by the maintenance of the superchargers, it will be lowered.

Very true. You forgot about the key driving factor for the higher price though. Convenience.

IIRC weren't the Supercharger stations all solar powered? Essentially feeding power back into the grid?

3 hours ago, Yoinkerman said:

Commercial electricity rates are already hugely lower than residential though.  It doesn't make sense for them to be so much more than even residential.

Convenience. Whether you like it or not, that's going to play a huge factor in what things cost.

[rhyseyness]

On 1/13/2017 at 10:27 PM, dizmo said:

How is this not a viable alternative even at its current cost?

Take the GB for example, and a high performance 4 door gas powered saloon. M5 for sake of numbers.

• Tesla says 170 miles from 120kwh charge. 0.20 pound per kwh makes that 24 pound to go 170 miles.
• BMW says the M5 gets 16 mpg. Gas in GB is currently about 1.20 pound per liter, or 4.63 a gallon. Cost of 49 pound to go the same distance.

The M5 is probably the least fuel efficent 4 door saloon out there 

 

The Audi A4 is probably a more accurate comparison, which does 40mpg.

Let's say 35; for arguments sake.

At 35 mpg, £1.20 a litre, 170 miles costs £26.50.

 

Tesla is still cheaper, but not quite as cheap as you make it look with your M5 example

 

I do agree with your post as a whole though, just think your example should have been more realistic than a BMW M5 

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, rhyseyness said:

The M5 is probably the least fuel efficent 4 door saloon out there 

 

The Audi A4 is probably a more accurate comparison, which does 40mpg.

Let's say 35; for arguments sake.

At 35 mpg, £1.20 a litre, 170 miles costs £26.50.

 

Tesla is still cheaper, but not quite as cheap as you make it look with your M5 example

I was going for a similar market comparison. Someone buying a Tesla isn't looking to buy an A4

[rhyseyness]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

I was going for a similar market comparison. Someone buying a Tesla isn't looking to buy an A4

Point taken, but I'd argue that a tesla is more of a luxury car than a sports one.

The M5, imo is more sports than luxury.

I do agree that someone buying a tesla probably doesn't want a A4 though, lol.