Ryzen vs Kaby Lake

[arielbeje]

I want to upgrade my i7-3770, but I'm debating whether to get an i7-7700k now and overclock it, or wait for Ryzen.

I will use it for gaming but also for probably a lot of video encoding.

 

I'm asking because I've seen Ryzen competing with the i7-6900k and beating it by 5 seconds (I want to encode a lot of files, so that would probably be big), and I've been wondering, what will the difference be if I overclock the 7700k.

[Matias_Chambers]

Wait for Ryzen. You wont see a huge improvement upgrading to the 7700K from your current CPU. 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Wait for Ryzen. You wont see a huge improvement upgrading to the 7700K from your current CPU. 

And most likely neither will he see with ryzen, though frankly he indeed should wait regardless to get a better deal from either, I am sure his old i7 is still up for the task to at least wait AMD finally stop over hyping its CPU and release it to the public already.

[arielbeje]

My CPU has 0 problems gaming, I am mostly asking about video encoding, I've been told I'd get an 18% increase with a 6700k, and that Kaby Lake CPUs overclock better.

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

And most likely neither will he see with ryzen, though frankly he indeed should wait regardless to get a better deal from either, I am sure his old i7 is still up for the task to at least wait AMD finally stop over hyping its CPU and release it to the public already.

 

[Matias_Chambers]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

And most likely neither will he see with ryzen, though frankly he indeed should wait regardless to get a better deal from either, I am sure his old i7 is still up for the task to at least wait AMD finally stop over hyping its CPU and release it to the public already.

Ryzen performs a bit better than Broadwell-E. When upgrading to KabyLake we are talking about upgrading from 4 cores to 4 cores. When upgrading to Ryzen we are talking about upgrading from 4 cores to 8 cores. He will see a performance improvement. Let's just hope it's cheaper than Broadwell-E.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Matias_Chambers said:

Ryzen performs a bit better than Broadwell-E. When upgrading to KabyLake we are talking about upgrading from 4 cores to 4 cores. When upgrading to Ryzen we are talking about upgrading from 4 cores to 8 cores. He will see a performance improvement. Let's just hope it's cheaper than Broadwell-E.

Hyper Threading
no but for real I agree that ryzen 8 phyical cores will probably be a great and safe bet for workstations but in real world performance I am still unsafe to agree that it is the sure future direction to go before I see any independent benchmarking without all the propaganda and over hyping that AMD is doing with theirs.

 

either Intel o AMD in the end wont really offer any astronomic performance gap from his current i7, though that is all more reason why he should wait and see what would be better for him.

[xAcid9]

That's on specific workload. Wait for official review from trusted site.

[Matias_Chambers]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Hyper Threading
no but for real I agree that ryzen 8 phyical cores will probably be a great and safe bet for workstations but in real world performance I am still unsafe to agree that it is the sure future direction to go before I see any independent benchmarking without all the propaganda and over hyping that AMD is doing with theirs.

 

either Intel o AMD in the end wont really offer any astronomic performance gap from his current i7, though that is all more reason why he should wait and see what would be better for him.

AMD CPU's will have SMT which is the same as HT. 

[grimreeper132]

My advice at the moment is wait and see if in a couple of month time if they are bad in terms of pricing then go intel, if they release something that isn't pretty much a cpu which is skylake cpu with a slight overclock, (yes I know 4k streaming is possible now, but base performance wise that's what it is) and if it's good pricing for good CPUs go AMD as there is overclocking on all CPUs so you can always get them up to the more similar levels to intels line up even if they aren't quite as good at base clock speeds, making up the difference and so making it a good CPU, if the pricing is correct.