AMD says that their Ryzen CPU's will last 4 years.

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

According to AMD's Mark Papermaster at CES 2017, he confirmed that the new Ryzen CPUs will last 4 years before you'll need to upgrade to a newer processor. According to Jim Anderson, the chips will be available from day 1, and they will NOT have another "paper launch." They plan to not have any chances, and want to have an explosive launch.

 

According to the PC World website,

 

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AMD spent four years developing its Ryzen microprocessor, and that’s the same length of time the company expects it to live on in its ongoing war with Intel in the PC processor space.

Mark Papermaster, AMD’s chief technology officer, confirmed the four-year lifespan in a conversation here at CES 2017 in Las Vegas, though he declined to discuss specifics.

AMD’s Ryzen—the CPU brand which is the public face of its Zen chip architecture—enters at a particularly serendipitous time. Rival Intel just released its mainstream quad-core Kaby Lake microprocessors, and the chips have met with mixed reviews from the tech press. In part, that’s because Intel’s famous “tick-tock” manufacturing model stuttered, resulting in a third 14nm chip, Kaby Lake, instead of the previously expected two. 

AMD, meanwhile, has worked hard developing a fresh approach, aiming and apparently hitting a 40 percent performance improvement target over its previous chip architecture, Excavator.  The combination of a relatively mild Intel launch and a radical new architecture has AMD executives and enthusiasts buzzing about true competition in the PC processor market for the first time in years.

 

With everything riding on Ryzen’s launch, AMD isn’t taking chances. Jim Anderson, senior vice president and general manager of AMD’s Computing and Graphics business, told PCWorld that Ryzen chips will be available from day one. “We’re not going to do a paper launch,” he said, referring to a “launch” where customers have to wait weeks or months for the products to actually arrive. “We’ve done that before. We’re not going to mess with it.”

 

My opinion on this is that this could be one of the most anticipated launches of a cpu in Tech history, and definitely the most hyped up launch for 2017. If their claims that the CPU will have a 4 year lifespan, then this could secure AMD a wider audience who want to not spend money every refresh or launch and keep their current one.

 

Link: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3155129/components-processors/amd-says-its-zen-cpu-architecture-is-expected-to-last-four-years.html

[Space Reptile]

this has been already posted here

 

 

[aisle9]

I mean, the Core 2 Quad has lasted 10, and some of the Phenom II X4 and X6 CPUs are still formidable to this day, so four years is kind of BS...

[samcool55]

So after 4 years there should be some other awesome stuff? Looking at the rate Intel has been going the last 4-ish years that's going to be far from exiting...

I think ryzen will last much longer but oh well :3 I won't complain tho!

[captain cactus]

Remember they already outlined a Zen+ series of CPUs. It's not like they're saying "hey, so, what we did with Bulldozer was a success, we're going to repeat that".

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

6 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

this has been already posted here

 

 

Please read the title. I'm confirming that it will last for four years. Not that it's overclockable.

[Space Reptile]

1 minute ago, ♠FlamieMeister♠ said:

Please read the title. I'm confirming that it will last for four years. Not that it's overclockable.

please read the article 

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

3 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

please read the article 

Just saw that. Still, my article focuses on a different thing than his. I just elaborated a bit more on it.

[SurvivorNVL]

*AMD releases them all, takes market by storm, uses the architecture for four years to grow new chips and ideas.  Expands Zen via Zen+ and their other lines.  Turns out to stagnate like Bulldozer, inb4 cri.*

[Guest Darth Revan]

Or until Intel launches their new architecture. That's something that AMD and everyone who thinks AMD will succeed, haven't thought about.

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out. One that will crush AMD.

And Ryzen will suddenly be called Fallyn.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that AMD hasn't thought about the future.

Ryzen will be great. But they don't have anything after it. To fight against Intel.

And that's where the problem arises.

AMD is hoping that they'll make something better 4 years from now. But they won't.

And unfortunately the Intel monopoly will continue. Well at least it won't continue this year, hopefully.

 

 

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

1 minute ago, Darth Revan said:

Or until Intel launches their new architecture. That's something that AMD and everyone who thinks AMD will succeed, haven't thought about.

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out. One that will crush AMD.

And Ryzen will suddenly be called Fallyn.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that AMD hasn't thought about the future.

Ryzen will be great. But they don't have anything after it. To fight against Intel.

And that's where the problem arises.

AMD is hoping that they'll make something better 4 years from now. But they won't.

And unfortunately the Intel monopoly will continue. Well at least it won't continue this year, hopefully.

 

 

Zen+ maybe??

[DocSwag]

Not surprised. AMD seems to like to introduce one BIG architecture every four years and in between they release one revision each year (just look at phenom and bulldozer). And they seem to be able to get as much a performance uplift each year as Intel does with a brand new architecture every two years.

[malon]

as long as they keep improve on the ryzen architecture and don't halt any new rnd on newer tech i don't care to much since it is already sort true for many higher end intel cpu's if you are a normal consumer, unless  you bought an already low to mid end cpu, but then you can't complain about not having enough power for what you bought imo.

[Trixanity]

Yeah, this just means that they'll re-iterate on Zen for the next four years at least. Just like Intel does. Zen will be their Core iX-equivalent.

It does not mean that they'll release Zen and that's it for the next four years. Zen+ will launch sometime next year and then another Zen line-up the year after and so on.

 

Intel has announced that they'll be discontinuing their Core iX architecture in 2019. AMD will apparently discontinue Zen in 2021. This could mean that AMD is in trouble if they have no response to whatever Intel is working on that should be (presumably) significantly different from existing products. At least for the two years that they'll still be on Zen. That's all speculation though.

[Coaxialgamer]

Most likely,  what he means is that there will be a refresh ( think zen+)  before then,  just like piledriver was to bulldozer,  but they will release a new cpu architecture in 4 years.  Not that they will have the zen SKU launched in 2017 last until 2021 on an old 14nm process. 

[Doobeedoo]

I get what they're trying to say, so good, I personally don't upgrade a PC before 4y cycle at least. 

[Djole123]

Daymn the Ryzen CPU might actually be the Q6600 or i7-920 of today.

 

It's good today, and it's going to stay good 5 years in the future. Maybe even more with the overclocking potential (not sure about the ability).

[vorticalbox]

2 hours ago, aisle9 said:

I mean, the Core 2 Quad has lasted 10, and some of the Phenom II X4 and X6 CPUs are still formidable to this day, so four years is kind of BS...

I believe it's less about how long you can use it but how long between new cpus. Intel do new ones every year this will mean on amd you don't have to update every year to be on the best.

[tlink]

2 hours ago, Darth Revan said:

Or until Intel launches their new architecture. That's something that AMD and everyone who thinks AMD will succeed, haven't thought about.

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out. One that will crush AMD.

And Ryzen will suddenly be called Fallyn.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that AMD hasn't thought about the future.

Ryzen will be great. But they don't have anything after it. To fight against Intel.

And that's where the problem arises.

AMD is hoping that they'll make something better 4 years from now. But they won't.

And unfortunately the Intel monopoly will continue. Well at least it won't continue this year, hopefully.

 

 

that just doesn't make sense imo, they would outcompete themselves then and waste quite a huge investment into the z270 chipset and fuck over a lot of board makers in the process. you can't just surprise release an architecture like that in a reasonable time span. 

[SCHISCHKA]

2 hours ago, aisle9 said:

I mean, the Core 2 Quad has lasted 10, and some of the Phenom II X4 and X6 CPUs are still formidable to this day, so four years is kind of BS...

they will be referring to the architecture design. They will not make major changes for example we have had FX since 2011 so it has lasted 6 years

[TechGod]

3 hours ago, Darth Revan said:

Or until Intel launches their new architecture. That's something that AMD and everyone who thinks AMD will succeed, haven't thought about.

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out. One that will crush AMD.

And Ryzen will suddenly be called Fallyn.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that AMD hasn't thought about the future.

Ryzen will be great. But they don't have anything after it. To fight against Intel.

And that's where the problem arises.

AMD is hoping that they'll make something better 4 years from now. But they won't.

And unfortunately the Intel monopoly will continue. Well at least it won't continue this year, hopefully.

 

 

This is such a stupid comment. You really think AMD hasn't thought about the future? You're delusional. 

[Energycore]

3 hours ago, Darth Revan said:

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out.

Here, you'll need this

*hands tinfoil hat*

[♠FlamieMeister♠]

3 hours ago, Darth Revan said:

Or until Intel launches their new architecture. That's something that AMD and everyone who thinks AMD will succeed, haven't thought about.

100% Intel has a hidden architecture that they haven't released, which they will release sometime after Ryzen comes out. One that will crush AMD.

And Ryzen will suddenly be called Fallyn.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that AMD hasn't thought about the future.

Ryzen will be great. But they don't have anything after it. To fight against Intel.

And that's where the problem arises.

AMD is hoping that they'll make something better 4 years from now. But they won't.

And unfortunately the Intel monopoly will continue. Well at least it won't continue this year, hopefully.

 

 

Reminds me when I made a troll post exposing linus for being nvidia bias and even got Slick to comment on it.

[aisle9]

2 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

I believe it's less about how long you can use it but how long between new cpus. Intel do new ones every year this will mean on amd you don't have to update every year to be on the best.

If we don't count Broadwell, which was a lost generation for desktop CPUs, and Kaby Lake, which is an insult to our intelligence, RyZen will be one generation behind the 8-ball in terms of IPC when it debuts. That's actually not bad. What would be bad is AMD banking on architecture that's one generation behind today holding up for four years without becoming another FX-style joke.

[Princess Luna]

I mean, Intel has a lot of CPU that are up-to-date and are 4 or more years old, and a CPU should be fully functional if well cared for 20 or more years, I honestly feel AMD is going a bit too far on their marketing trying to squeezing every little thing into their hype, the more they try to make this a huge deal while it isn't the more disappointment consumers are likely to have by the time this hits the shelves