Intel processor architectures tested clock-to-clock in gaming - results all over the place

[Energycore]

Just now, RGProductions said:

yeah, sandy is strong as well.

Probably Intel's biggest generational leap, and their best architecture to date. Sure the newer stuff is faster, but it's just revisions to Sandy Bridge let's be honest

[bcredeur97]

7 minutes ago, RGProductions said:

You should delid and try to hit 5ghz! they tend to be able to do that.

eh maybe. not with my current cooler lol. But the thought has crossed my mind a couple times.

 

Mostly im too scared to delid without one of those fancy tools made for it, but im also too lazy to buy one. it'll probably happen one day though lol

[Taja]

There are several tests already comparing 2-6 gen i7s and the tests show very different results. Digital foundry crisys/witcher 3 tests show that, and many others.

IDK If the problem here was dx12, but that is not right. Every other test made prove otherwise.

[Zodiark1593]

40 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Probably Intel's biggest generational leap, and their best architecture to date. Sure the newer stuff is faster, but it's just revisions to Sandy Bridge let's be honest

Was Sandy that big of a jump over Westmere? I figured the jump to Core (2) was far larger than from Westmere to Sandy. Probably closer to what Nehalem was to Core. Or was there something I missed from the launch reviews? 

[Energycore]

Just now, Zodiark1593 said:

Was Sandy that big of a jump over Westmere? I figured the jump to Core (2) was far larger than from Westmere to Sandy. Probably closer to what Nehalem was to Core. 

Hmmmmm I wasn't around for that. I was born in 2011 when Sandy Bridge released so

[Rune]

DX12 in battlefield 1 is broken AF. When it doesn't crash, I get 30fps under my average DX11 rate w/ a 6850k.

[Energycore]

Just now, Rune said:

DX12 in battlefield 1 is broken AF for Nvidia cards

FTFY

[Rune]

Just now, Energycore said:

FTFY

The statement holds true. It's broken for the majority of the people who play it.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Rune said:

The statement holds true. It's broken for the majority of the people who play it.

This is not a ground-up DX12 Title is it. Just patchwork DX12 to keep hip

[AresKrieger]

3 hours ago, Levis95l said:

I still don't get why Ivy Bridge is constantly faster (in BF1).

The game is horribly optimized so results though repeatable are quite arbitrary, thus you can get odd results such as these.

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

This is not a ground-up DX12 Title is it. Just patchwork DX12 to keep hip

It would probably be worse if full dx12 since that allows for more dev error

[Zodiark1593]

21 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Hmmmmm I wasn't around for that. I was born in 2011 when Sandy Bridge released so

According to the anandtech review, the 2700K was nipping at the heels of the i7 hex core of the time even in worst case scenarios. 30% or so over Lynnfield, which at the time was a 2 year old architecture. While not exactly the Conroe moment, that is quite a big improvement compared to what we've seen since. 

[NumLock21]

12 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

can someone add to the chart dual xeon e5 2450?

Why?!

 

[suicidalfranco]

13 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Why?!

 

why not?

[Prysin]

this isnt that shocking, the reason is that whilst Sandy and Ivy appears extremely impressive, they are running "faster then normal" with that 4GHz clock rate. This means other parts of the CPUs, like the Cache and other sub-structures will also be boosted. Whilst in the case of the Haswell, Skylake and Kaby Lake CPUs, they are technically "underclocked" slightly, yes it is the base clock, but said base clock is lower then normal operating speeds.

 

Then again, Hyperthreading makes any product way more relevant. Even if IPC isnt a big factor, HT is

[ApolloFury]

Newer CPU shows bigger lead.

[Zodiark1593]

4 hours ago, Prysin said:

this isnt that shocking, the reason is that whilst Sandy and Ivy appears extremely impressive, they are running "faster then normal" with that 4GHz clock rate. This means other parts of the CPUs, like the Cache and other sub-structures will also be boosted. Whilst in the case of the Haswell, Skylake and Kaby Lake CPUs, they are technically "underclocked" slightly, yes it is the base clock, but said base clock is lower then normal operating speeds.

 

Then again, Hyperthreading makes any product way more relevant. Even if IPC isnt a big factor, HT is

The funny thing is hyperthreading doesn't add more raw compute. It simply allows for better utilization of the existing compute resources. The core is just too wide for individual threads to fully saturate at all times. One could say that Hyperthreading is an integral part of the architecture to get the most out of it, and not just a feature. 

[NumLock21]

5 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

why not?

Your chance of seeing that is only if someone here, has that exact setup and are willing to spend their entire day running the same exact benchmarks that was presented in the article. Otherwise, no one is going to dumpster dive, spend their money on building system, based on your silly request.

[Godlygamer23]

16 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

me and my 3570k have been friends for a long time.. i see no reason for us to part ways.

Indeed, it is still a solid CPU. 

[Zodiark1593]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Your chance of seeing that is only if someone here, has that exact setup and are willing to spend their entire day running the same exact benchmarks that was presented in the article. Otherwise, no one is going to dumpster dive, spend their money on building system, based on your silly request.

*holds a large stack of office PCs grabbed from work*

 

What? We're not doing benchmarks across the Intel years?

 

*mournfully goes to put PCs back before anyone notices*

[Guest Kloaked]

16 hours ago, Rune said:

The statement holds true. It's broken for the majority of the people who play it.

 

16 hours ago, Energycore said:

This is not a ground-up DX12 Title is it. Just patchwork DX12 to keep hip

I keep reading about that and I've had zero issues with it on my 980. I can run it maxed out just fine and keep a consistently high framerate. I've not noticed any weirdness either.

[suicidalfranco]

25 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

*holds a large stack of office PCs grabbed from work*

 

What? We're not doing benchmarks across the Intel years?

 

*mournfully goes to put PCs back before anyone notices*

DO IT!

JUST DO IT!

[vorticalbox]

21 hours ago, cj09beira said:

now we will see the core race,

 

didn't and spread start that with FX?

[AnonymousGuy]

On 1/6/2017 at 8:46 PM, bcredeur97 said:

eh maybe. not with my current cooler lol. But the thought has crossed my mind a couple times.

 

Mostly im too scared to delid without one of those fancy tools made for it, but im also too lazy to buy one. it'll probably happen one day though lol

It took 1.5V for me to get 5Ghz on my 3770K.  And after a year the overclock degraded.

[Đỗ Đức Huy]

so my 3960X at 4.8GHZ stable is still good after all this time?

Nice!

[Inkz]

On 1/6/2017 at 8:35 PM, crisro996 said:

*looks at 3770k*

 

*looks at 4770k*