South Carolina law would force Anti-Porn filter on new PCs; $20 to remove

[patrickjp93]

Just now, JoseGuya said:

No, society does not get affected as a hole, because no individual owes anything to this so called "society".

 

The only way you get to enforce law 100% effectively is through fear and murder, so, you would need a lawless military to truly have a "lawful" country. 

Yes it does. Behavioral and Macro Economics both have proven this.

 

Yes you do, because without that society you don't have opportunity.

 

Obviously there is a balance to be struck, but your premise is not true. And you should fear breaking the law. Everyone should. Without law and respect for it there is no order, there is no civility.

 

No you wouldn't. Look no further than the Art of War and Tsung Tzu's writings on that.

[patrickjp93]

3 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Check mate government

Not really. Canonical sells info to Amazon and the U.S. government, just like Red Hat does with Fedora unless you buy a privacy license.

[SCHISCHKA]

3 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Check mate government

The government has its own Linux distributions and several departments fund aspects of security related software. Is irony the right word to use when state makes a law but federal government funds software to bypass it? http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-distribution-lightweight-portable-security

[Master Disaster]

22 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Not really. Canonical sells info to Amazon and the U.S. government, just like Red Hat does with Fedora unless you buy a privacy license.

Like I care about that. Does it allow me to watch my porn? Yep it does and unless the government plan to force the software creators operating under GPL v2/3 to add support for their shit (and in the process reveal how their shit works) then it always will.

 

And let's assume by some grace of god they do force the open source community to accept a closed source and fully proprietary piece of software into Linux in order to control their porn blocker, well then I just get an earlier version Live CD.

[SCHISCHKA]

6 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Not really. Canonical sells info to Amazon and the U.S. government, just like Red Hat does with Fedora unless you buy a privacy license.

Privacy license? Have you got a blog or article I can read? I can't find on google

[Clanscorpia]

Hardware level lock? *unplugs device* Thats good

[Doobeedoo]

Haha, joke that will flop.

[Zodiark1593]

4 hours ago, samcool55 said:

 don't worry, we can still use a VPN like tunnelbear if we really need to.

 

Also the concept of a hardware chip that does some kind of protection has been proven a bad idea in the past.

I can't find it immediately but it was iirc before 2000 soo... I don't expect this to work either!

It was called the Clipper Chip, and was implemented as an early version of the TPM. 

 

One does have to wonder, if governments of 50 years ago knew how powerful computer technology would become, would they have allowed such easy access to unregulated devices as PCs? Looking at Britain and China, it seems as though legislators are trying to close the Pandora's Box. 

[mynameisjuan]

Fuck this hardware lock....If you the government is going to block it make the ISPs block the IPs. 

 

Either way I dont approve of the censorship but at least with the ISP block I dont have something physically installed and the government fucking with my personal shit and them deciding what they think is allowed.

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, JoseGuya said:

Then, you are everything that is wrong with the US.

Don't fall for the low quality troll bait.

 

 

1 hour ago, SCHISCHKA said:

Privacy license? Have you got a blog or article I can read? I can't find on google

It's a troll. You didn't find anything on Google because it does not exist.

Expect a really lengthy post from Patrick which makes a bunch of claims, but 0 actual sources (if he does post a "source", chances are it actually disagrees with him).

[Monte_Carlo]

Let's pretend that S.C manages to implement a software or hardware porn lock that requires an infusion of cash to get rid of.  What's stopping me from buying my stuff from North Carolina?  People have been crossing state and county lines for decades to get around alcohol and firework bans.  How will this be any different?  

 

 

[Bouzoo]

2 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Freedom allows you to be complacent and stupid with minimal consequence.

 

I have the freedom to say this, I exercise that freedom

Quite contradictory, aren't we? 

And that turned out quite funny. 

[Sauron]

5 hours ago, ModuleLFS said:

Even if this gets somehow magically implemented, keep in mind there are smartphones. People watch porn even on their DS yo. 

The law would probably cover all new devices that can access the internet.

[Sauron]

2 hours ago, SCHISCHKA said:

The government has its own Linux distributions and several departments fund aspects of security related software. Is irony the right word to use when state makes a law but federal government funds software to bypass it? http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-distribution-lightweight-portable-security

Not that I'd need the government to provide me with a Linux distro.

 

2 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Not really. Canonical sells info to Amazon and the U.S. government, just like Red Hat does with Fedora unless you buy a privacy license.

problem solved

[AresKrieger]

Here lies my problem with the right, get your stupid moralistic story book out of my damn laws then I'd have little to no issue with you.

[typographie]

6 hours ago, SirRoderick said:

How the hell would a hardware block even work? I am thoroughly confused as to why this is thought to be possible.

That's what I'm wondering. Every solution I can think of either involves science fiction-level image analysis technology, an impractical list of all porn sites on the entire internet now and forever, the intervention of divine forces, or some combination thereof.

 

The reality is that it's probably just political fluff intended to sound good to a base of hardline South Carolina social conservatives who don't understand the impossibility/ineffectiveness of such a thing. Ironically the people who would want such a filter are the kind of people who wouldn't try to test its limits anyway. So chances are the people who want it will be happy and continue to not look at porn regardless, and the people who don't will effortlessly find ways to circumvent it because it probably won't work very well anyway.

[samcool55]

1 hour ago, Zodiark1593 said:

It was called the Clipper Chip, and was implemented as an early version of the TPM. 

 

One does have to wonder, if governments of 50 years ago knew how powerful computer technology would become, would they have allowed such easy access to unregulated devices as PCs? Looking at Britain and China, it seems as though legislators are trying to close the Pandora's Box. 

Yees that was it! Managed to found from where i got it  Apparently it's from 1994.

 

Around 9:00 they mention the clipper chip and how it ended.

TL:DR it was unsafe, companies complained and it was abandoned before it reached the market.

 

History repeats itself, that's all

[spartaman64]

they claim they do it for morality reason but then they charge money and remove it for people who pay. seems like a cash grab to me. i would have a better opinion of them if they dont allow it to be removed then it would seem like they are following their values

[Master Disaster]

3 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

they claim they do it for morality reason but then they charge money and remove it for people who pay. seems like a cash grab to me. i would have a better opinion of them if they dont allow it to be removed then it would seem like they are following their values

IMO its also to generate a register of all the filthy heathens who watch that sinful pornography.

[typographie]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

they claim they do it for morality reason but then they charge money and remove it for people who pay. seems like a cash grab to me. sort of like indulgences 

Oh, don't worry… I'm sure all financial proceeds will go toward homosexual re-education, book burning, pamphlets full of pictures of dead fetuses, and other equally virtuous causes.

[Yamoto42]

Everyone seems to think this is a bad thing, but you need to see it for what it really is:  pure brilliance!

SC realizes that technology is the future.  Our children need to learn how computers work.  What better way is there to accomplish this than publicly stating "Break this lock without breaking your system, and you can have porn."

[suicidalfranco]

what's up with the west and the war on porn? jeez 

[DeejaySelek]

Because of course PC manufacturers can just make a "anti porn chip"

 

[PCgamer324]

Reuters has picked up the story: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-south-carolina-pornography-idUSKBN149251?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

[Memories4K]

Keep conservacucks out of our bedrooms and out of our computers.

 

What i do on BigTittyFutaTrannyCreampies.Gov is my business and forcing someone to pay a $20 to unlock something of mine, regardless of the fact someone is of age, is despicable. 
It's a degenerate tax, is what it is, and i won't have it. Lmao

The guise that it's "for the good of the children" is ridiculous, as if when i was a kid it wasn't my choice to go onto dubious websites or i didn't seek out similar material in my everyday life outside the computer.