Looks like the RX 480 keeps getting better and better

[TechGod]

https://www.techpowerup.com/228800/tom-clancys-the-division-gets-directx-12-update-rx-480-beats-gtx-1060-by-16

 

"Testing by GameGPU (Russian media site) shows that AMD Radeon RX 480 is about 16 percent faster than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, with the game running in the new DirectX 12 mode. "The Division" was tested with its new DirectX 12 renderer, on an ASUS Radeon RX 480 STRIX graphics card driven by Crimson ReLive 16.12.1 drivers, and compared with an ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB STRIX, driven by GeForce 376.19 drivers. Independent testing by German tech-site ComputerBase.de supports these findings."

 

Not much to say really, it's clear the RX 480 just keeps gaining steam. 

[Cyndre1033]

That is one if that seems to always go with AMD and it is why I am considering the 480 over the 1060 for my upcoming build: longevity. Still wondering which 480 to get though

[TechGod]

2 minutes ago, Cyndre1033 said:

That is one if that seems to always go with AMD and it is why I am considering the 480 over the 1060 for my upcoming build: longevity. Still wondering which 480 to get though

I have a Sapphire Nitro+, its such a cool running and quiet card!

[Dabombinable]

And how many games use DirectX 12?

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, TechGod said:

https://www.techpowerup.com/228800/tom-clancys-the-division-gets-directx-12-update-rx-480-beats-gtx-1060-by-16

 

"Testing by GameGPU (Russian media site) shows that AMD Radeon RX 480 is about 16 percent faster than NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, with the game running in the new DirectX 12 mode. "The Division" was tested with its new DirectX 12 renderer, on an ASUS Radeon RX 480 STRIX graphics card driven by Crimson ReLive 16.12.1 drivers, and compared with an ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB STRIX, driven by GeForce 376.19 drivers. Independent testing by German tech-site ComputerBase.de supports these findings."

 

Not much to say really, it's clear the RX 480 just keeps gaining steam. 

It's one thing to post information regarding a cards performance improving, but to make a title that would intentionally incite a fanwar, you are clearly asking for it. 

 

Let's also point out the elephant in the room, being DX12. The Nvidia cards are scaling negatively in DX12. If you compare the DX11 result of the 1060, to the DX12 result of the 480, that gap closes. Also, that 16% number is a massive 3FPS in 4k (23fps on the 1060 vs 26fps on the 480), basically unplayable by PC gaming standards. 

 

Feel free to update this post with that information.

[3 Lions]

That maybe true for stock clocks however what if you were overclock the nuts out the GTX 1060 ( 2GHz+). 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That maybe true for stock clocks however what if you were overclock the nuts out the GTX 1060 ( 2GHz+). 

And what if you do the same with 480?

[LAwLz]

Do you really need to make multiple threads about how the 480 beats the 1060 in the same type of benchmarks (to be more precise, DX12 games)?

 

Also, that title is really biased.

The 1060 is getting 42FPS minimum, and 61 FPS average.

The RX 480 is getting 35FPS minimum, and 65 FPS average.

(1080p numbers)

 

The 1440p results are more in favor of the RX480.

The 1060 is getting 22FPS minimum, and 44 FPS average.

The RX480 is getting 26FPS minimum, and 47FPS average.

 

 

So at 1080p I'd say the 1060 wins. I would gladly trade 4 FPS (which are still above 60) for 7 extra minimum FPS.

The RX480 clearly wins at 1440p.

 

Both cards are unplayable at 4K so why even bother including that (that's by the way where the clickbate "16% faster" number comes from)?

Woho! The AMD card runs the game at 26 FPS instead of 23! Suck on that Nvidia! Oh, your minimum frame rate is 20% higher at 1080p? Well that doesn't count!

Something you also have to remember is that Nvidia cards sometimes performs worse in DX12 mode, so you need the DX11 numbers to get the whole picture.

[3 Lions]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

And what if you do the same with 480?

The 480 could never hit 2GHz air cooled or even liquid cooled you'd need LN2 to get even 2000MHz. 

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

And what if you do the same with 480?

They overclock like shit in comparison-which is normal for AMD's cards (unless you have one of their heavily underclocked GPU in your laptop-a 200MHz OC on older AMD/Ati mobile cards at the stock voltage is awesome).

[JuztBe]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

The 480 could never hit 2GHz air cooled or even liquid cooled you'd need LN2 to get even 2000MHz. 

480 have lower base clock as well. You can't compare 480 and 1060 Overclocking clock to clock.

[Starelementpoke]

3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

The 480 could never hit 2GHz air cooled or even liquid cooled you'd need LN2 to get even 2000MHz. 

And? Not the point. Performance increases more per clock for the 480.

[Belgarathian]

6 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And how many games use DirectX 12?

About 15 at the moment, another 60+ that AMD are working with to implement in 2017. 

 

That number doesn't include other titles, or independents. 

[ivan134]

11 minutes ago, Cyndre1033 said:

That is one if that seems to always go with AMD and it is why I am considering the 480 over the 1060 for my upcoming build: longevity. Still wondering which 480 to get though

XFX GTR

[leadeater]

4 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And how many games use DirectX 12?

That may be a valid issue now, few DX12 games and some that are are just awful implementations but that point will fade rather quickly so for anyone buying a card right now DX12 is a very valid thing to look at. Really comes down to what games you want to play, now and in the future and how long till you next plan to upgrade.

 

Also 100% agree the thread title is horrible, @TechGod please change it. 

[vanished]

OK so it pulls ahead in DX12... did anyone really find this surprising?  It's the same idea as Vulkan where we know AMD does better.  How is it stacking up in DX11 though?  Initially we saw the 1060 be measurably and consistently ahead ... has that changed?

[Izumi Reina]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

The 480 could never hit 2GHz air cooled or even liquid cooled you'd need LN2 to get even 2000MHz. 

Lol liquid nitrogen couldnt even get it to 2ghz

[ivan134]

5 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

The 480 could never hit 2GHz air cooled or even liquid cooled you'd need LN2 to get even 2000MHz. 

 

4 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

They overclock like shit in comparison-which is normal for AMD's cards (unless you have one of their heavily underclocked GPU in your laptop-a 200MHz OC on older AMD/Ati mobile cards at the stock voltage is awesome).

What the hell are you talking about?

[ivan134]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

OK so it pulls ahead in DX12... did anyone really find this surprising?  It's the same idea as Vulkan where we know AMD does better.  How is it stacking up in DX11 though?  Initially we saw the 1060 be measurably and consistently ahead ... has that changed?

480 was beating 1060 in dx11 in the division.

[Mira Yurizaki]

All this really tells me is game developers are starting to actually give a damn about optimizing for AMD.

[vanished]

2 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

480 was beating 1060 in dx11 in the division.

Hm, no doesn't look like it: 

Though they're so close I'd call that one a wash.

[AresKrieger]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

All this really tells me is game developers are starting to actually give a damn about optimizing for AMD.

That's likely due to consoles

[Bsmith]

13 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And how many games use DirectX 12?

more and more overtime

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That maybe true for stock clocks however what if you were overclock the nuts out the GTX 1060 ( 2GHz+). 

It's not even the coolers. The 16% number comes from the 4k results. Neither of these cards are 4k gaming cards. OP is using a clickbait title, and refusing to provide the details to those numbers within his thread. Allow me to break down the math for everyone.

 

(GameGPU) 1080p DX12: GTX 1060 average FPS = 61, R9 480 average FPS = 65. Difference of 7% in favor of the R9 480

(GameGPU) 1080p DX12: GTX 1060 minimum FPS = 42, R9 480 minimum FPS = 35. Difference of 20% in favor of GTX 1060.

(ComputerBase) 1080p DX 12: GTX 1060 FPS = 49.4, R9 480 FPS = 55.2. Difference of 12% in favor of R9 480.

(ComputerBase) 1080p DX 11: GTX 1060 FPS = 51.2, R9 480 FPS = 52.9. Difference of 3% in favor of R9 480. 

(ComputerBase) 1080p DX11 vs DX12: GTX 1060 DX11 = 51.2, R9 480 DX12 = 55.2. Difference of 8% in favor of R9 480.

 

This is just factoring in 1080p. At 1440p, the results become even closer to each other. The only result in which the R9 480 showed a 16% gain over the GTX 1060, was in 4k, with a mere difference of 3fps. This title is misleading, and needs to be changed or updated to reflect that it's 16% in 4k. Anyone could easily make a post, showing the GTX 1060 winning by 20%, and neglect to tell people it's in minimum FPS. It would be just as misleading, don't you guys think?

[Starelementpoke]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Hm, no doesn't look like it: 

Though they're so close I'd call that one a wash.

That's not the relive drivers though right?