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Verizon wont defuse the bomb. (Verizon wont kill the note 7)

Should Verizon have defused the bomb?  

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  1. 1. Should Verizon have defused the bomb?

    • Yes
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    • No.
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    • Anybody that still uses the Note 7 deserves whats coming
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1 minute ago, alizaidi2000 said:

Oh i thought, it was for a replacement note 7 which does not explode(but did).

The first replacement was a Note 7, but then after the second recall they switched it to the S7 + $150.


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1 hour ago, zMeul said:

opening numerous posts about the same thing is at least against the forum guidelines

You can't simply barely mention the topic, and then say the post actually telling people formally whats happeneing is a duplicate post

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as someone still waiting on the pixel XL i pre ordered to replace my note 7 I'm glad they rejected the update, I still need a phone....


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1 hour ago, totjup5 said:

as someone still waiting on the pixel XL i pre ordered to replace my note 7 I'm glad they rejected the update, I still need a phone....

What if it explodes while you are waiting? then you will still be without a phone

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21 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

I'm pretty sure most people will use Google Maps regardless of their wireless carrier. But it only shows that VZW is not so serious when it comes to safety. 

I would.

 

If my fucking Windows Phone would actually display the map on google maps.

 

God I cannot wait to get an Android. This fucking phone is just complete garbage. I love the interface, but as for functionality and compatibility, it just isn't there. Even with the Wifi at my work, the I<3Radio app doesn't work. I select an artist/song/channel-whatever, and it just doesn't play. It just loads endlessly.

 

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38 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

This.....sort of makes sense considering the time of year.

 

What they should be doing, is working with manufacturers to recall and replace this device with something safer. Instead of merely covering their own asses from the most immediate source of lawsuit.

 

They're worried about "you broke my phone and X happened and I got hurt". When they should be breaking the phone and replacing it with something that isn't going to explode.

That would not hold in court, it is an officially recalled device. It is illegal to use it on ANY public transport. If V had communicated the recall to its users "effectively" as they clamed there wouldn't be the issue of people still using them.


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Thing is, manufacturer and carriers have done everything within reason to convey the need to stop use of the phone and do the exchange. They have effectively indemnified themselves from liability if some stubborn person has his Note 7 die or blow up. But the manufacturer going out if its way to kill in-use phones is bordering unreasonable. Verizon's decision makes sense given how much people reply on their phone. The mere risk of the phone going kaput is moot when you find yourself in a desperate situation.

 

Here in this thread we discuss the action of the carrier. Just as returning the phone is up to the owner, having an alternate phone is entirely the user's decision, not the carrier's.

 

As for Samsung, I hope this case bring to light one of the biggest disadvantage of selling Android; they can't issue the updates directly to users' phones.

If this battery issue was on an iPhone instead, Apple could disable affected phone models in a jiffy without carriers consent.


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7 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

That would not hold in court, it is an officially recalled device. It is illegal to use it on ANY public transport. If V had communicated the recall to its users "effectively" as they clamed there wouldn't be the issue of people still using them.

You can sue anyone for anything, in the US. Whether or not you will win is the question.

 

Get a good enough lawyer, and a good enough story behind you, and the company won't risk adjudication, instead they'll just settle out of court.

 

"Well, V could have prevented this by issuing a known update that would have shut the phone down, they didn't do everything in their power to protect my client, blah blah blah, lawyer human scum speak, blah blah blah"

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LMAO. That title though :D.

 

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Verizon will not be taking part in this update because of the added risk this could pose to Galaxy Note 7 users that do not have another device to switch to

From the words of Undoomed: "Hey moron, fucking moron"

 

Verizon, do you not carry phones(and are you not honoring the recall?)? Oh, you just don't carry phones that are comparable to the Note 7, well too bad, recalls suck and so does your product portfolio.

 

I don't care if Samsung is disabling phones, because the ignorant morons who still haven't RMA'd their phone put my life(and many others) at risk.

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5 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

This.....sort of makes sense considering the time of year.

 

What they should be doing, is working with manufacturers to recall and replace this device with something safer. Instead of merely covering their own asses from the most immediate source of lawsuit.

 

They're worried about "you broke my phone and X happened and I got hurt". When they should be breaking the phone and replacing it with something that isn't going to explode.

You're getting a full refund when you bring it in...


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They have a point. They don't even designed or manufactured the device. Informing people is enough on their behalf. Spam everyone, if you want. If Samsung wants (through service providers or otherwise) annoyingly remind everyone about the recall, so be it. In my view, there is no need to go one step further and remotely disable everything (assuming users who didn't exchange their devices are indeed installing every update pushed to them - afaik you can make all updates non-automatic in Android, but I don't know much about locked phones) - it's possible, but they are free to not do it.

I say inform everyone, then live and let die. We are getting too used to be treated as permanently underage. 

i also think the "life-threatening" nature of the defect is blown out of proportion (which is not the same as saying it doesn't exist).

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7 hours ago, totjup5 said:

as someone still waiting on the pixel XL i pre ordered to replace my note 7 I'm glad they rejected the update, I still need a phone....

 

You could have swapped it for an S7/edge. 


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I don't see this going down too well with the government, after all they government have banned them from being sold and from being taken on most US public transportation networks.

 

It won't be long until some agency steps in and forces them to push the update.

 

 


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i'd still rock a note 7 no matter what. i don't give a shit on what the government, or carriers, or transportation networks say. i'll still fucking use it.


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13 hours ago, alizaidi2000 said:

 

Verizon will not be taking part in this update because of the added risk this could pose to Galaxy Note 7 users that do not have another device to switch to

God forbid someone doesn't have a phone for like a week. 

 

Oh the humanity.....


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They have to be able to do something to disable the device and still allow 911 calls to go through.  Isn't it a law that any phone has to be able to call 911?  Like, if I get a new phone tomorrow, my old phone should still be able to dial 911, even if it's no longer able to make other calls, or if I have an old phone that I don't use any more, it will still reach 911.  I thought they did that years ago.  Or were they just discussing that?

 

Turns out you can still call 911 with old phones: https://www.puretalkusa.com/blog/tips-and-tricks-for-using-cell-phones-in-emergencies/

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1 hour ago, Ringthane said:

They have to be able to do something to disable the device and still allow 911 calls to go through.  Isn't it a law that any phone has to be able to call 911?  Like, if I get a new phone tomorrow, my old phone should still be able to dial 911, even if it's no longer able to make other calls, or if I have an old phone that I don't use any more, it will still reach 911.  I thought they did that years ago.  Or were they just discussing that?

Yeah any phone even without a sim card can call 911. But how can they disable the device and still be able to call 911. You can't disable a device and still be able to call 911.

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4 hours ago, terrytek said:

i'd still rock a note 7 no matter what. i don't give a shit on what the government, or carriers, or transportation networks say. i'll still fucking use it.

Well, the OTA update (which carriers can force install at their discretion) renders the phone absolutely unusable by completely disabling its ability to charge the battery or even accept enough voltage to power on the phone. The only reason Verizon users will be able to use it is because Verizon is refusing to send out the update.


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5 hours ago, terrytek said:

i'd still rock a note 7 no matter what. i don't give a shit on what the government, or carriers, or transportation networks say. i'll still fucking use it.

Why would you still use it? It's basically a fucking bomb!

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2 minutes ago, alizaidi2000 said:

Why would you still use it? It's basically a fucking bomb!

Because the issue has been blown way out of proportion.

The details on some of the cases are also so vague that we cannot determine if misuse triggered the "explosion."


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1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Because the issue has been blown way out of proportion.

The details on some of the cases are also so vague that we cannot determine if misuse triggered the "explosion."

The issue was because of the poor quality lithium ion batteries Samsung put in it, its a hardware thing on all notes 7s

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9 hours ago, ElfenSky said:

You're getting a full refund when you bring it in...

Well then.

 

Give them a warning ahead of time, then brick the phone. Tell them a week or so. Send out a message "in 7 days an update will be pushed out that will render this device unusable, please return it to your nearest Verizon store for a full refund".

 

They probably just don't want to give out the refunds to be honest.

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1 hour ago, Trik'Stari said:

Well then.

 

Give them a warning ahead of time, then brick the phone. Tell them a week or so. Send out a message "in 7 days an update will be pushed out that will render this device unusable, please return it to your nearest Verizon store for a full refund".

 

They probably just don't want to give out the refunds to be honest.

They'll probably still give refunds after its bricked. But i agree they should have given a warning.

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Just now, alizaidi2000 said:

They'll probably still give refunds after its bricked. But i agree they should have given a warning.

They aren't pushing the update out AFAIK. And yes, they would have to give the refund after bricking the device.

 

What I'm saying is that they're taking a gamble on how many phones will actually explode, and thinking "well, let's not push this out, and see how few refunds we can give out".

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