NZXT H440 Airflow Help?

[AllHokage]

Hey everyone,

So I decided to finally try to overclock my i7 4790K and upon benchmarking the idle/loads temps (without overclocking) I noticed they didn't seem right. 

 

I'm getting around 35-40°C on idle on a 20°C night. Upon stress testing the CPU (100%-109% load) I was getting around 70°C for a solid 5 minutes, until it broke the 80°C range and instantly started going out of control in the 90°C range before I ended the test. Now I don't know if this is normal, but as soon as I ended the test it instantly went back down to 40°C?

So I believe something is wrong here, the CPU seems to be getting way to hot for the cooling solutions I have in place and or the temperature sensor is broken on the CPU/MOBO, as I don't understand how it can drop 40°C in a second?

EDIT: WHILE IN BIOS THE CPU IS 45°C

 

My Setup

CPU: i7 4790K 

Cooler: Corsair H105

Cooler Fans: 2x Noctua NF-F12 PWM

Front Case Fans: 3x Be Quite! Silent Wings 2 PWM

Outtake Fan: 1x Be Quite! Silent Wings 2 PWM

Controller: Corsair commander mini

Case: NZXT H440

If anyone knows whats going on I would greatly appreciate the help 

[WilliamDB]

Remount your cooler and change the thermal paste. run the test again after that and make sure the fan on your watercooling is spinning.

[AllHokage]

3 minutes ago, WilliamDB said:

Remount your cooler and change the thermal paste. run the test again after that and make sure the fan on your watercooling is spinning.

Everything is spinning, thermal paste has been replaced and I've already remounted the cooler.

[WilliamDB]

There is a chance you just lost the silicon lottery really bad. What program were you using? and have you recorded temps trying Prime95?

[AllHokage]

5 minutes ago, WilliamDB said:

There is a chance you just lost the silicon lottery really bad. What program were you using? and have you recorded temps trying Prime95?

Prime95 was the stress tester, Core Temp & CPU-ID were the temperature readers.

Also double checked with Corsair Link, all programs read the same within 4°C.

 

These temps seem way to bad to just be based on the silicon lottery especially with my cooling solution...

[pyrojoe34]

First thing to check is your mount. The Corsair AIOs have very stiff tubing which makes it very hard to mount the block flush unless it is entirely out of the system. Take the cooler out of the case, then mount the block with the tubes relaxed so you are positive you get flat, even pressure on the block/CPU interface. Then put it all back into the case. This is a common problem with the Corsair AIOs since the tubes that are very stiff and many people have a hard time mounting them flush (made a 20C difference to me and did the same to plenty of other people I told to try this).

 

 

What is your water temp showing during these tests?

[AllHokage]

2 minutes ago, pyrojoe34 said:

First thing to check is your mount. The Corsair AIOs have very stiff tubing which makes it very hard to mount the block flush unless it is entirely out of the system. Take the cooler out of the case, then mount the block with the tubes relaxed so you are positive you get flat, even pressure on the block/CPU interface. Then put it all back into the case. This is a common problem with the Corsair AIOs since the tubes that are very stiff and many people have a hard time mounting them flush (made a 20C difference to me and did the same to plenty of other people I told to try this).

 

 

What is your water temp showing during these tests?

I'll give that a shot tomorrow then and let you know how it goes.

 

Also I believe the H105 doesn't record water temperatures.

[pyrojoe34]

1 minute ago, AllHokage said:

I'll give that a shot tomorrow then and let you know how it goes.

 

Also I believe the H105 doesn't record water temperatures.

It doesn't have a USB header connection to control it with Corsair Link? I'm not familiar with the H105 specifically maybe it doesn't monitor temps.

[AllHokage]

4 minutes ago, pyrojoe34 said:

It doesn't have a USB header connection to control it with Corsair Link? I'm not familiar with the H105 specifically maybe it doesn't monitor temps.

Actually it might, I had a single temperature tab what I had no clue what it was for. Apparently it was the MOBO and now that I think about it, the H105 is connected to the MOBO and not the link. So I'm guessing thats the waters temperature

I'll have to check tomorrow, as it's getting later her in Australia.

Thanks for the help!

[AllHokage]

14 hours ago, pyrojoe34 said:

First thing to check is your mount. The Corsair AIOs have very stiff tubing which makes it very hard to mount the block flush unless it is entirely out of the system. Take the cooler out of the case, then mount the block with the tubes relaxed so you are positive you get flat, even pressure on the block/CPU interface. Then put it all back into the case. This is a common problem with the Corsair AIOs since the tubes that are very stiff and many people have a hard time mounting them flush (made a 20C difference to me and did the same to plenty of other people I told to try this).

 

 

What is your water temp showing during these tests?

Just took it all apart and replaced it back onto the CPU. Temperatures are still the same

 

Just clarifying should the Pumps power be plugged into the motherboards fan header 1 like so?

EDIT: While I'm in the bios it's reading 45°C

[AllHokage]

Sorry guys for the bulk posts today, just trying to eliminate all the possibilities of my CPU overheating.

So I was just wondering is this the best airflow setup for the lowest temperatures in my NZXT H440 case with the Corsair H105 watercooler? 

 

 

[ZenPC]

Tbh in a case like that, it's quite hard to get minimal-to-bad airflow in there  But to answer your question that seems like a pretty good analyses into how the airflow would be and it's safe to say that will be the best airflow look at the case as of yet  

 

10/10, IGN, would do again, and all that   

[Aytex]

Fan setup look good.

[Zyndo]

32 minutes ago, AllHokage said:

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I personally like to use AIO's as intakes rather than exhausts.... but with the number of fans you have in your system none of your choices are going to make a whole lot of difference anyway.

[Mick Naughty]

11 hours ago, AllHokage said:

Just took it all apart and replaced it back onto the CPU. Temperatures are still the same

 

Just clarifying should the Pumps power be plugged into the motherboards fan header 1 like so?

EDIT: While I'm in the bios it's reading 45°C

Pump can be on the fan1 header or CPU optimal header if available. Or the CPU header. Won't really matter if you fans are set accordingly. 

[AllHokage]

9 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Pump can be on the fan1 header or CPU optimal header if available. Or the CPU header. Won't really matter if you fans are set accordingly. 

Well I've been though one hell of a ride today.

Troubleshooted the whole issue and the stock cooler did worse then the watercooler, meaning it's ether a faulty sensor as the CPU doesn't feel hot at all 5 minutes after reaching 100 C (Don't know if thats normal) or like you said I lost the silicone lottery *understatement imo*

 

Also now my PC isn't booting, I scratched the mobo while reinserting the watercooling and I believe I killed it

[Mick Naughty]

Clear cmos and try again. May need to reseat if you changed something again. I've thought I killed mine so many times but I always find away to it to turn back on. 

[WoodenMarker]

On 12/2/2016 at 10:59 PM, ZenPC said:

Tbh in a case like that, it's quite hard to get minimal-to-bad airflow in there  But to answer your question that seems like a pretty good analyses into how the airflow would be and it's safe to say that will be the best airflow look at the case as of yet  

10/10, IGN, would do again, and all that   

Actually, the H440 has pretty shoddy airflow. 

Mounting the rad as front intake would probably result in better temps.

 

@AllHokage

If you're worried about cpu temps, just monitor them with a stress test like OCCT.

What's your core voltage set to? On Auto, the value will almost always be too high and be the reason behind your high temps.

Please don't make multiple threads on the same discussion--they have been merged.

[AllHokage]

@WoodenMarker @Mick Naughty 

 

Took it into my local computer store today, ended up being if more then 2 ram slots were occupied at a given time the system would automatically shutdown. This was caused by the CPU overheating to 100C and apparently shorting out some of the RAM slots. The guys there ended up giving their diagnosis's for free and the RMA paid for out of good will

They sent a RMA for the motherboard and fingers crossed gigabyte will replace it for me aswell. 

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and help, never would of thought it would be something like this.

[DELTAprime]

10 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Actually, the H440 has pretty shoddy airflow. 

Mounting the rad as front intake would probably result in better temps.

The original H440 has bad airflow. I have the new H440, no issues.

[ZenPC]

On 12/5/2016 at 10:43 AM, WoodenMarker said:

Actually, the H440 has pretty shoddy airflow. 

Mounting the rad as front intake would probably result in better temps.

 

@AllHokage

If you're worried about cpu temps, just monitor them with a stress test like OCCT.

What's your core voltage set to? On Auto, the value will almost always be too high and be the reason behind your high temps.

Please don't make multiple threads on the same discussion--they have been merged.

Really? Ahh interesting I always believed it had great airflow and seeing as how it's quite large and has decent space for air intakes... or probably not.