internet New U.S. Federal Surveillance Rules, Similar to U.K., Come into Effect Tomorrow

[Guest lilbman]

21 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Eh. He will be in a couple months, like it or not. Bernie utterly failed. Honestly I despise Trump, but at least he isn't as autistic as Bernie. 

Bernie was the most genuine candidate.  That's why I think he deserved to be President.  He wasn't running for ego like Trump or legacy like Hillary.  He was running because he genuinely gives a shit about our future and actually knows what the fuck hes doing.

[Mooshi]

You don't need more government powers to hack, just get some bored jabroni with cheeto dust fingers if you want nudes from icloud hacked with ease. 

[straight_stewie]

22 hours ago, Michael McAllister said:

The rule would further erode Fourth Amendment protections as warrants can be applied to large swaths of devices rather than a targeted device.

You must have never heard of the Freedom Act. It did exactly this, except more generally (for devices or traditional surveillance)

 

[Scruffy90]

I have a bunch of friends in the legal fields and none of them care about this. The first thing they say whenever I bring up digital privacy is "I've got nothing to hide, let them search". Until this reaches the general publics thick skulls in a way they'll understand, this kind of shit will keep happening.

[Unhelpful]

6 minutes ago, lilbman said:

 

A retard with good intentions is still a retard.

[Guest lilbman]

1 hour ago, TheKDub said:

 

I'm not here to throw insults, however he is better than a lying criminal who supports allowing abortions right up to the point of birth, and wants to cause a nuclear war with Russia.

I'd like to see detailed reason on why exactly you think Trump is an "unqualified dirtbag".

 

Anyways, back on topic, this is ridiculous, from the spying to the botnet, it all needs to just stop.

The NSA needs to be abolished, and the government needs to back the hell off with trying to get access to everyone's data.

Q) has Trump ever held any type of public office?

A)LOL nope

 

Q) Does Trump constantly act unpresidential?

A) Yes

 

Q) Has he bragged about sexually assaulting women?

A) Damn right https://www.google.com/url?sa=t

 

Q) Does Trump have any idea how world politics work?

A)Not really, no.

 

Q) Does this man know basic fucking facts about immigration?

A) Well, he claims a wall would stop immigration, yet 80% of undocumented immigrants come over on planes and overstay their visas.

 

Q) Does Trump realize that we need to act now instead of later about reversing the effects of climate change?

A)He thinks it's a Chinese hoax, so no.

 

Q)Does Trump have the temperament to be President?

A)No.  His 3.A.M Twitter wars prove this.

 

Need I say more?

[Guest lilbman]

53 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

This is because of Obama you cuck.
God-Emperor Trump's not even in office yet.
You act as if Obama's any better than Trump when it comes to security and over-reach of LEO.

Did I say I liked Obama? 

 

[Scruffy90]

[Guest lilbman]

50 minutes ago, Memories4K said:

Barnes Sandals sold you out to the establishment, not only that but sold you out to the most crooked presidential candidate to be running.
I get if you don't like Trump but c'mon, Barry Sandwich failed you and betrayed the so called anti-establishment (mostly regressive) movement of the left.

I don't like that he sold himself out to Hillary Clinton.  I just think he had no choice.  He was either told to endorse her or quit politics.  Another motive is that he really didn't want Trump to win, and for very good reason.

[Guest lilbman]

4 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

A retard with good intentions is still a retard.

Can you prove he's a retard?

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Just now, lilbman said:

Can you prove he's a retard?

Not literally retarded of course, just extremely stupid. 

[Scruffy90]

3 minutes ago, lilbman said:

I don't like that he sold himself out to Hillary Clinton.  I just think he had no choice.  He was either told to endorse her or quit politics.  Another motive is that he really didn't want Trump to win, and for very good reason.

I believe the dnc and rnc have the same rules regarding party participation and supporting nominees. 

[Guest lilbman]

15 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

Not literally retarded of course, just extremely stupid. 

How so?

[Guest lilbman]

13 minutes ago, Scruffy90 said:

I believe the dnc and rnc have the same rules regarding party participation and supporting nominees. 

There was probably some shady stuff going on there behind closed doors.  Bernie was probably forced to endorse her.

[Scruffy90]

1 minute ago, lilbman said:

There was probably some shady stuff going on there behind closed doors.  Bernie was probably forced to endorse her.

Who knows. No point in speculating now.

[Memories4K]

12 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Did I say I liked Obama? 

 

You're bringing up President-Elect Trump in a thread about a new bill on giving LEO more power, talking about how "right-wing extremists" will rue the next 4 years: Literally, this had nothing to do with Trump "Trump could abuse this!" Well yeah. Just like our president for the past 8 years has been over-reaching, this bill is a direct result of it, don't look at the pebble on the ground when we're all pointing at the moon.

22 hours ago, lilbman said:

In the United States of Trumpistan, everyone should be afraid.  I can see this being abused the f*ck out of by Trump against places like China.

 

Muslims in America should be very afraid, a whole new type of discrimination is about to be used.

 

#He'sNotMyPresident

 

4 hours ago, lilbman said:

I think Trump will teach us a hard lesson about how we shouldn't elect unqualified dirtbags.  Those damn right wing extremists are going to regret their decision every day for the next four years starting January 20th, 2017.

My point is that your intentions are clear to everyone reading.

[TheKDub]

29 minutes ago, lilbman said:

Q) has Trump ever held any type of public office?

A)LOL nope

 

Q) Does Trump constantly act unpresidential?

A) Yes

 

Q) Has he bragged about sexually assaulting women?

A) Damn right https://www.google.com/url?sa=t

 

Q) Does Trump have any idea how world politics work?

A)Not really, no.

 

Q) Does this man know basic fucking facts about immigration?

A) Well, he claims a wall would stop immigration, yet 80% of undocumented immigrants come over on planes and overstay their visas.

 

Q) Does Trump realize that we need to act now instead of later about reversing the effects of climate change?

A)He thinks it's a Chinese hoax, so no.

 

Q)Does Trump have the temperament to be President?

A)No.  His 3.A.M Twitter wars prove this.

 

Need I say more?

"Q) Has he bragged about sexually assaulting women?

A) Damn right https://www.google.com/url?sa=t"
You clearly have no idea what "Locker room talk" means.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Locker Room Talk

 

How about the fact that Hillary Clinton has been under FBI investigation for the past 20 years?

Or the fact that she's committed federal crimes? (Mishandling Classified Information by storing classified information on a private email server, Violation of the 2009 Federal Records Act by both using a private email server and also deleting the 33,000 emails, and plenty more)

How about Benghazi? Or that Bill Clinton has sexually abused women, and Hillary defended him? Or that she wants to make it much more difficult, if not impossible to purchase firearms legally? Or maybe that she's taken millions of dollars from foreign governments as "gifts", then changed her stance on something immediately after, or pushed for something that would benefit said government immediately after. Sounds like more of bribes than gifts if you ask me.

 

Anyways, let's keep this thread on topic.

[Michael McAllister]

PSA: Unless you guys want the thread to be locked, try to stay on topic.  Thanks.

[Memories4K]

10 minutes ago, lilbman said:

There was probably some shady stuff going on there behind closed doors.  Bernie was probably forced to endorse her.

 

9 minutes ago, Scruffy90 said:

Who knows. No point in speculating now.

Lot of stuff in Wikileaks and the Podesta E-mails.

DNC, in collaboration with Shillary; took down the old naive socialist Jew, who could've made anime real, so the robot with seizures, who can't connect to the average American/human-being, had the best shot at the title.

At the very least lads Kek won against Moloch, and thanks to meme magic, anime can still be real lmao

On the real, as an American, i'm not liking this bill and it's not surprising to most of us. It will be abused and it's not in anyone's interest to lose freedoms in exchange for security.

[Ryujin2003]

On 11/30/2016 at 11:22 PM, Michael McAllister said:

http://www.ibtimes.com/fbi-nsa-rule-41-changes-federal-rules-expand-governments-hacking-capabilities-2453034

 

Similar to the newly enacted UK legislation, Investigatory Powers Act, Rule 41 seeks to further expand the surveillance powers of intelligence agencies.  The rule would further erode Fourth Amendment protections as warrants can be applied to large swaths of devices rather than a targeted device.

 

 

This would also allow the NSA and FBI to deploy large botnets.  What could possibly go wrong?  As more of these draconian laws are enacted, the prospect of freedom and democracy seems to be a paper tiger.

 

The reason why this is important is because individual devices are hard to pinpoint when you have a lot of devices using the same spectrum. They have to collect all or none. This makes it legal to collect the information, then it all has to be filtered, with the unimportant altuff tossed out, not sitting on some AT&T ... erm... NSA server for the next couple decades...

 

Again, FBI and other intelligence agencies don't care about your porn habits, as long altuffgencies sexier it doesn't involve children.

 

It's not about 1985 and Big Brother. It's about understanding how this technology works. Law enforcement and military still need to operate. It's not their fault, or our fault, that our laws and understanding of civil liberties hasn't adapted to the fast evolution of a technological society.

[Natsoup]

On 11/30/2016 at 11:46 PM, lilbman said:

In the United States of Trumpistan, everyone should be afraid.  I can see this being abused the f*ck out of by Trump against places like China.

 

Muslims in America should be very afraid, a whole new type of discrimination is about to be used.

 

#He'sNotMyPresident

Is this b8?

[Ryujin2003]

Just now, Natsoup said:

Is this b8?

Yes. This is the type of activity that gets threads locked. Don't click the bait.

[Natsoup]

Just now, Ryujin2003 said:

Yes. This is the type of activity that gets threads locked. Don't click the bait.

How unfortunate... I thought the news was interesting. I hadn't heard about it before noticing it here.

[Ryujin2003]

2 minutes ago, Natsoup said:

How unfortunate... I thought the news was interesting. I hadn't heard about it before noticing it here.

Same here. I really am interested in this, but it seems that people are afraid of change... your ISP and phone company monitor and record your online activity anyways. And then they sell this to advertisers for cash. The government is trying to find people with bad intentions. They could care less about someone's secret Brony fetish or other hobbys. As long as that hobby doesn't involve mass murder, assassination, or drug/human trafficking.

[Natsoup]

2 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Same here. I really am interested in this, but it seems that people are afraid of change... your ISP and phone company monitor and record your online activity anyways. And then they sell this to advertisers for cash. The government is trying to find people with bad intentions. They could care less about someone's secret Brony fetish or other hobbys. As long as that hobby doesn't involve mass murder, assassination, or drug/human trafficking.

Does a VPN actually hide this from your ISP? Or does it encode it, and if they know what VPN you use, it can be decoded?