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Chad Todd

Touch bar MacBook Pro owner

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Posted · Original PosterOP

so I recently purchased a touch bar MacBook Pro from the Apple Store, on Thursday. I did read all of the negative reviews and complaints, but I thought that they didnt apply to me, so I went ahead and bought one. a few points I would like to point out. 

1) its damn beautiful machine

2) the usb-c issue I feel was very over-hyped. For professionals, the lack of an SD card reader is frankly the only thing I can get on board with as far as IO is concerned. If you are a professional, I would assume that you carry your MacBook in a laptop bag or maybe a backpack, there will be room for the dongles that you require. I honestly haven't plugged anything in to it yet, other than my iPhone which they do sell USB-C to lightning cables at the store for 25$, whatever I don't mind. 

3) Keep in mind, I am a student. I am in no way a professional (yet) and I don't use it for any intensive tasks, yes I will get berated by some of you for getting a machine like this for school, but thats my biggest issue with the new MacBook Pro. its name. It should have replaced the MacBook Air and let the pro tasks to the 15 inch. 2 cores and no dGPU are an issue for pro users. 

4) Yes this thing is bloody expensive, but what apple product isn't, I wanted to get involved with Mac OS, I had never used it and I've been told by people around me at school that its the way to go. 

I would love to answer some questions about it because I want to defend the product, because I don't believe it is getting what I deserves. I do understand the issues that people have with it, and I would love to share my experiences.

 

Desktop PC is has intel 4690k i5, Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, Z170 ASUS motherboard. I am not an apple fanboy.

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If i was buying a laptop it definitely  wouldn't be an apple machine. Glad your happy with it though ?


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If I had no USB-A ports on my laptop I'd sell it, but I'm glad you don't mind.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

What about battery life?

It has been pretty good, I haven't done any set tests but I use it In class from 1-4, then again from 6-10 at work. Its currently at 37% 2 hours into work, 2 hours remaining so it will last as long as I require of it. if I were guess I would say it lasts from 6-8 hours. I also use It at a really high brightness cause the screen is very nice. 

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1 minute ago, Chad Todd said:

It has been pretty good, I haven't done any set tests but I use it In class from 1-4, then again from 6-10 at work. Its currently at 37% 2 hours into work, 2 hours remaining so it will last as long as I require of it. if I were guess I would say it lasts from 6-8 hours. I also use It at a really high brightness cause the screen is so very nice. 

What do you do on it for work?


"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Dash Lambda said:

What do you do on it for work?

I've been watching videos and doing research on a Korean History paper for most of today. pretty non intensive stuff. 

 

 

(edit) 

sorry I might've misinterpreted your question, for work I am a security guard that sits at a station, I essentially study and watch movies for my work. 

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Sounds like a lot of whatevers and I don't mind excuses for something a company should deliver on. The end consumer should have the best product not a comprimised product at the cost of the company making more. Sadly this is not how businesses work.


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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

Sounds like a lot of whatevers and I don't mind excuses for something a company should deliver on. The end consumer should have the best product not a comprimised product at the cost of the company making more. Sadly this is not how businesses work.

No businesses strive to maximize profits.

These are not whatever, these are my circumstance and explaining that not every user needs an SD card reader or a HDMI port, or MagSafe. I understand and acknowledge some people do need those, which is why I think they should've differentiated the MacBook Pro 13 inch and the 15 inch, the latter having these options. 

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Just now, Chad Todd said:

I've been watching videos and doing research on a Korean History paper for most of today. pretty non intensive stuff. 

Oh...

Well, that wouldn't quite work for me.

 

If you just got it, you probably have pretty strong feelings around defending your purchase. I'm not telling you that you're gonna hate it, you may very well continue to enjoy using it for a long time, but... Wait a little while before telling people how good it is.

I learned that when I got the 2nd gen X1 Carbon.


"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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Just now, Dash Lambda said:

Oh...

Well, that wouldn't quite work for me.

 

If you just got it, you probably have pretty strong feelings around defending your purchase. I'm not telling you that you're gonna hate it, you may very well continue to enjoy using it for a long time, but... Wait a little while before telling people how good it is.

I learned that when I got the 2nd gen X1 Carbon.

I would love to wait and see more issues I have or whether or not I will continue to enjoy the machine but thats not an option yet, its only been shipped a few days ago ?

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33 minutes ago, Chad Todd said:

No businesses strive to maximize profits.

These are not whatever, these are my circumstance and explaining that not every user needs an SD card reader or a HDMI port, or MagSafe. I understand and acknowledge some people do need those, which is why I think they should've differentiated the MacBook Pro 13 inch and the 15 inch, the latter having these options. 

I agree they need to not use the word pro as it has no meaning what so ever anymore. Also a business strives to make profit but if you make all your customers angry then you get no profit


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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I agree they need to not use the word pro as it has no meaning what so ever anymore. Also a business strives to make profit but if you make all your customers angry then you get no profit

advertising to "pro" consumers like video editors and artists are long gone, its become a niche market, apple wants the money more than pleasing that niche market, love it or hate it, apple has changed focus.

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1 hour ago, Chad Todd said:

@Enderman had a very good post about his views of Apple's move to USB-C and essentially sums up what my opinions on the matter are.

I remember that thread.

Though I don't remember very many people agreeing with him...

I personally thought he was being a touch extreme.


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48 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

I remember that thread.

Though I don't remember very many people agreeing with him...

I personally thought he was being a touch extreme

yeah some of what he said was a tad extreme and I don't share that, but the gist of what he was saying like USBC is the future tech, and nobody will switch if the systems never have the ports, now given the amount of people with usbc only computers companies will be forced into moving with tech and not sticking to legacy tech.

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1 minute ago, Chad Todd said:

Yeah some of what he said was a tad extreme and I don't share that, but the gist of what he was saying like USB-C is the future tech, and nobody will switch if the systems never have the ports, now given the amount of people with USB-C only computers companies will be forced into moving with tech and not sticking to legacy tech.

Apple can make waves in the tech industry, but that's not the kind of waves they do. USB-C is getting adopted at a steady rate, and trying to rush it is ineffectual and pointless.

That's what I think, anyway, I know at least one person who disagrees (quite vehemently).

 

In the end, all it amounts to is that you have a less functional machine. If it works for you, then great, you don't need that function, but it's still less functional.


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14 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

Apple can make waves in the tech industry, but that's not the kind of waves they do. USB-C is getting adopted at a steady rate, and trying to rush it is ineffectual and pointless.

That's what I think, anyway, I know at least one person who disagrees (quite vehemently).

 

In the end, all it amounts to is that you have a less functional machine. If it works for you, then great, you don't need that function, but it's still less functional.

its not any less functional - the new usbc can do literally anything the old machine can do, so its not less functional. A pain in the ass? yes

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For that price you could have bought a older used Macbook Pro and had a better experience. But that's just me, no USB A or SD card slot would be PAINFUL for me. Not to mention to lackluster specs. And I know a student doesn't need top of the line specs in a laptop, but I just think you should get more for the price.

 

Example: (Purely example, buying something so expensive from such a small seller would be a MASSIVE MISTAKE!!!)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-15-RETINA-MacBook-Pro-2-5ghz-i7-16GB-Ram-512GB-SSD-AppleCare-12-15-17-/272451330916?hash=item3f6f5d6364:g:u8gAAOSwImRYIpkA


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12 minutes ago, Chad Todd said:

It's not any less functional - the new USB-C can do literally anything the old machine can do, so its not less functional. A pain in the ass? yes.

Yeah, it is. Not being a pain in the ass is a function.

Basically, the more things the machine can do with less work from the user, the more functional it is. In terms of IO, the need to use adapters -regardless of how much the Type-C port can do- makes the machine less functional.

 

Also, there are a few other points on the IO:

-Fewer ports total (as few as two).

-Lack of Magsafe port (anti-trip is functional).

-Lack of compatibility with many thunderbolt devices (There's a thread somewhere in News on that).

-Poor handling of resource allocation (Another news thread, basically using the ports on one side can make the ones on the other side effectively inoperable, sometimes even cutting off your WiFi card as well).


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is missing ethernet a pain? its annoying on my MacBook air to have to find where i put my adapter every time i backup 


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59 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

Yeah, it is. Not being a pain in the ass is a function.

Basically, the more things the machine can do with less work from the user, the more functional it is. In terms of IO, the need to use adapters -regardless of how much the Type-C port can do- makes the machine less functional.

 

Also, there are a few other points on the IO:

-Fewer ports total (as few as two).

-Lack of Magsafe port (anti-trip is functional).

-Lack of compatibility with many thunderbolt devices (There's a thread somewhere in News on that).

-Poor handling of resource allocation (Another news thread, basically using the ports on one side can make the ones on the other side effectively inoperable, sometimes even cutting off your WiFi card as well).

Less ports is not only a completely unreasonable thing to say, you wouldn't use SD card, hdmi, multiple USB-a, charging and thunderbolt, but also misleading - one usb-c can act as multiple ports because of the daisy chaining capability if for some odd reason you need all ports concurrently, which you don't. As for the wifi issues I haven't had any and I know which YouTube video you speak of but I think that was isolate issue, I could be wrong but I honestly have not plugged anything into my computer other than apples usbc to usba to plug my iPhone in. And your point about being less functional because it does it, but with an adapter is absolute baboonery, it's not a lack of functionality, it's a slight inconvience 

50 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

How are the touch bar? Are they as good as other touchscreen?

Yes and no, personally I don't really like touch screens (not like adding one ever hurts) but I would never use it. as for the touch bar it's not absolutely game changing but it's undoubtedly helpful. For example in calculator, add subtract multiply and divide are on the touch bar(customizable), not game changing, but helpful. 

40 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

is missing ethernet a pain? its annoying on my MacBook air to have to find where i put my adapter every time i backup 

Absolutely 100% no. I'm not sure what you even mean by this as nobody backs up with Ethernet ... I think but if you could elaborate, I'd be happy to answer. 

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Absolutely 100% no. I'm not sure what you even mean by this as nobody backs up with Ethernet ... I think but if you could elaborate, I'd be happy to answer. 

i copy my files to a NAS over ethernet


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