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[PCGuy_5960]

11 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Hey serious question.  I was looking through 3DMark's Hall of Fame and noticed that there aren't any Ryzen chips showing up?  What's holding them back in those benchmarks?

Frequency and core count probably... 3dmark can use all available threads AFAIK

[Jumper118]

14 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Hey serious question.  I was looking through 3DMark's Hall of Fame and noticed that there aren't any Ryzen chips showing up?  What's holding them back in those benchmarks?

the 6950x is faster cos it has 2 more cores  that is all. if it was still 5960x vs 1800x then they would be neck and neck, the ryzen has the higher physics and combined, but the intel would be higher in the gpu tests because of the clock speed. also there are no ryzen 4 way boards yet, so i would not be able to reach the very top any.  the lack of 4 way support is bad for me atm. 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

the 6950x is faster cos it has 2 more cores  that is all. 

 

That's not it.  There are tons of 5960x and 6950x CPUs in there.  I personally think it's due to lack of clockspeed resulting in lower physic scores.

 

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Frequency and core count probably... 3dmark can use all available threads AFAIK

 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

I personally think it's due to lack of clockspeed resulting in lower physic scores.

I think so... Ryzen doesn't overclock very well, so a 4.8+GHz 5960X would destroy it

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

That's not it.  There are tons of 5960x and 6950x CPUs in there.  I personally think it's due to lack of clockspeed resulting in lower physic scores.

idk, maybe nobody has used it under cold for 3d testing. 

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I think so... Ryzen doesn't overclock very well, so a 4.8+GHz 5960X would destroy it

a 4.8ghz anything shouldnt be in the hall of fame lol, the 5960x should be 5.8-6ghz to get top scores.  

 

even ryzen does over 5ghz on ln2, i think 5.2-5.4ghz will be the kind of speed for them on ln2. 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

idk, maybe nobody has used it under cold for 3d testing. 

 

I'm guessing that's what it would take for it to overcome the lack of ambient overclocking, but I'd say 98% of those 8 core Intel parts in there are running ambient cooling. 

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

a 4.8ghz anything shouldnt be in the hall of fame lol, the 5960x should be 5.8-6ghz to get top scores.  

 

even ryzen does over 5ghz on ln2, i think 5.2-5.4ghz will be the kind of speed for them on ln2. 

 

Literally, most are ambient cooled.  Sure there are a few LN2 Intel chips in there, but most are chips running in the 4.5 to 4.8 area.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

a 4.8ghz anything shouldnt be in the hall of fame lol, the 5960x should be 5.8-6ghz to get top scores.  

tru

[Jumper118]

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I'm guessing that's what it would take for it to overcome the lack of ambient overclocking, but I'd say 98% of those 8 core Intel parts in there are running ambient cooling. 

 

Literally, most are ambient cooled.  Sure there are a few LN2 Intel chips in there, but most are chips running in the 4.5 to 4.8 area.

i have no idea then, my ryzen at 4.1ghz is getting the same physics as my 5960x was at 4.75ghz. 

 

maybe people with titan xp and 1080ti like intel more  

 

or maybe all the ryzen boards die before the benchmark finishes. 

[done12many2]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

i have no idea then, my ryzen at 4.1ghz is getting the same physics as my 5960x was at 4.75ghz. 

 

That's odd because your Ryzen at 4.1 was scoring considerably less in CB R15 then your 5960x at 4.8?

[PCGuy_5960]

BTW, @done12many2 Jayztwocents said that Titan Xps are much faster than he thought they would be....  I think that Titan Xps are absolute beasts when watercooled and overclocked.

[Jumper118]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

That's odd because your Ryzen at 4.1 was scoring considerably less in CB R15 then your 5960x at 4.8?

i cant bench ryzen at 4.116ghz in cinebench  its at 4.091ghz i think. maybe firestrike does care about memory speed as much as cinebench. idk  

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

i have no idea then, my ryzen at 4.1ghz is getting the same physics as my 5960x was at 4.75ghz. 

Just now, done12many2 said:

That's odd because your Ryzen at 4.1 was scoring considerably less in CB R15 then your 5960x at 4.8?

Ryzen's Hyperthreading is very efficient, this is why a 5.4GHz 1600X was able to beat a 6GHz 5820K in multithreaded tests. 

[Jumper118]

 

same driver and windows install. only difference its 5960x and ryzen

 

the ryzen scores higher on the combined and phsics but lower in gpu. 

[done12many2]

8 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

same driver and windows install. only difference its 5960x and ryzen

 

the ryzen scores higher on the combined and phsics but lower in gpu. 

 

I think you ran really low cache speed and really loose timings on that 5960x during those runs.  My 5960x is nowhere near the higher scoring 5960x's in Firestrike Physics, but it was still respectable.  

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

I think you ran really low cache speed and really loose timings on that 5960x during those runs.  My 5960x is nowhere near the higher scoring 5960x's in Firestrike Physics, but it was still respectable.  

I think that your 5960X is one of the higher scoring ambient cooled 5960Xs

[done12many2]

17 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

BTW, @done12many2 Jayztwocents said that Titan Xps are much faster than he thought they would be....  I think that Titan Xps are absolute beasts when watercooled and overclocked.

 

I watched that video this morning.  I wonder what he based his comment on as I'm sure he didn't do any side by side testing to see how much better.  Lol.

 

Everything I'm seeing is showing 5 to 10% difference between a 1080 Ti and a Titan Xp.  I'm doing the shunt mod this time around and I know a few people couldn't get that to work with the Titan Xp, while one or two other were able to.  So far it's 100% for everyone that's tried it on the 1080 Ti.

 

I think that'll give me enough to even it out with other guys running on water.

 

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I think that your 5960X is one of the higher scoring ambient cooled 5960Xs

 

I'm gonna miss it, but I think I'm going to sell it soon before x299 drops.  I'm excited about being able to run x16 + x16 again as it's starting to show some benefits with these higher horsepower GPUs, especially in SLI.  That and I wan't to convert completely over to NVMe M.2 drives attached directly to the motherboard.  With all those PCIe lanes in x299, this should be a breeze.

 

[PCGuy_5960]

10 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Firestrike is a bit weird..... @NicklasAPJ's 6900K at 4.5GHz beats your 4.8GHz 5960X....

 

 

[Jumper118]

9 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I think you ran really low cache speed and really loose timings on that 5960x during those runs.  My 5960x is nowhere near the higher scoring 5960x's in Firestrike Physics, but it was still respectable.  

 

 

that is correct, but i am also running memory on ryzen at 2400 so they have both been gimped by crap ram  

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Firestrike is a bit weird..... @NicklasAPJ's 6900K at 4.5GHz beats your 4.8GHz 5960X....

 

 

 

Well that seems to explain it.  With all those 6950x, 5960x and 6900k throwing out those kinds of Physics scores, there ain't much room left to slide Ryzen scores in there.

 

Can you imagine what it's going to look like with higher clocking 10 core parts based on Skylake architecture?  I'm not even thinking about what the 12 core will look like.  lol

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

Can you imagine what it's going to look like with higher clocking 10 core parts based on Skylake architecture?  I'm not even thinking about what the 12 core will look like.  lol

Yeah, 30000 Physics points at stock and 45000 points when overclocked

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Well that seems to explain it.  With all those 6950x, 5960x and 6900k throwing out those kinds of Physics scores, there ain't much room left to slide Ryzen scores in there.

 

Can you imagine what it's going to look like with higher clocking 10 core parts based on Skylake architecture?  I'm not even thinking about what the 12 core will look like.  lol

the other thing to note is most extreme overclockers dont use amd and they dont get valid scores and most people with high end gpu's like titan xp and 1080ti wouldnt buy a budget cpu like ryzen for games if they already have those intel cpu's 

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

the other thing to note is most extreme overclockers dont use amd and they dont get valid scores and most people with high end gpu's like titan xp and 1080ti wouldnt buy a budget cpu like ryzen for games if they already have those intel cpu's 

 

Makes sense.  Not to mention that guys who buy 3 or 4 Titan Xp or 1080 Ti GPUs wouldn't be able to run those at one time on a Ryzen platform.  

[Jumper118]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Makes sense.  Not to mention that guys who buy 3 or 4 Titan Xp or 1080 Ti GPUs wouldn't be able to run those at one time on a Ryzen platform.  

exactly. i wonder if naples will oc. that will have 128 pcie lanes and upto 16 cores 32 thread, but i doubt they will be unlocked  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

Not to mention that guys who buy 3 or 4 Titan Xp or 1080 Ti GPUs wouldn't be able to run those at one time on a Ryzen platform.  

Ryzen needs more PCIe lanes