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Intel Coffee Lake/X & Cannon Lake PCH leaked

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  • Leaked info about Intel Coffee Lake coming out in 2018.
  • Built on 14nm process
  • Will have entire line up, Coffee Lake - S, -H, -U, and -X.
  • Enthusiast class, Coffee Lake-X has a 6+2 configuration, with GT2 igpu, and has size of 149mm squared.
  • Mainstream class, Coffee Lake-S has 2 configurations, 4+2 and 6+2
  • 4+2 is quad core and 6+2 is a hexa core.
  • Both will feature GT2 igpu
  • The 4+2 has die size of 126mm squared and the 6+2 has the same die size as Coffee Lake-X at 149mm squared.
  • Coffee Lake-H will also have a 6+2 configuration for the mobile platform.
  • Coffee Lake-U for ultra mobile, has a 4+2 configuration, and 128mb of eDRAM. 
  • Intel Cannon Lake PCH, Intel 300 series chipset
  • Native support for DDR4 2400
  • Supports Hdmi 2.0, dp 1.2, & hdcp 2.2
  • Speculation there might be a increase in pcie lanes
  • Also supports, gigabit lan, nfc, uf camera, touch screen, fingerprint sensor, and optane ssd.
  • Douglas Peak controller to support WiGig, WiFi, and BT

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http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-2018-cpu-details/


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6 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Coffee lake? Really?

They wanna be as relatable as possible.


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Mainstream hex core! Wonder if they might speed things up, depending on how Zen goes...


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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Coffee lake? Really?

All of their Lake codenames are named after real lakes.


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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

Coffee lake? Really?

I like it, because I like coffee as well. Black of course.

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10 hours ago, awesomeness10120 said:

So, this is yet another sign from Intel that 10nm is being a little problematic for them?

It may just not be suitable for high-power applications (yet). Remember the TSMC 20nm planar failure? It never became viable for GPUs, so we got stuck on 28nm for a long time. Intel is bringing 10nm to mobile first, but Coffee Lake is the same architecture as Cannonlake, just up on 14nm. I don't think we know enough yet.


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Did the E series processors just get renamed to X with more options? The chart really doesn't make sense to me, it's odd they launch two at the same time with the older name having more cores, cache etc. Also for Skylake-X why the drop in L3 cache? I'm assuming all these lines are still for heavy CPU users and don't make any sense for gaming for the most part.

 

For the desktop processors do you guys believe the new 6 core Coffee Lake processor would come at an extra premium over the 4 cores? Or would you imagine the 6 core i7 for example would replace the 4 core at the same price point? Kind of want to upgrade from Sandy Bridge but wouldn't mind waiting for the 6 core option the following year. However, if the 6 core is going to be way over ~330 I may not get it anyway.

Also kind of speculating but would the socket likely remain the same from Kaby Lake to Coffee Lake? It's all based off the Skylake architecture, no?

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9 hours ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

All of their Lake codenames are named after real lakes.

Haswell is a real town

Skylake is a place in california too

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7 minutes ago, tonyeezy said:

Did the E series processors just get renamed to X with more options? The chart really doesn't make sense to me, it's odd they launch two at the same time with the older name having more cores, cache etc. Also for Skylake-X why the drop in L3 cache? I'm assuming all these lines are still for heavy CPU users and don't make any sense for gaming for the most part.

 

For the desktop processors do you guys believe the new 6 core Coffee Lake processor would come at an extra premium over the 4 cores? Or would you imagine the 6 core i7 for example would replace the 4 core at the same price point? Kind of want to upgrade from Sandy Bridge but wouldn't mind waiting for the 6 core option the following year. However, if the 6 core is going to be way over ~330 I may not get it anyway.

Also kind of speculating but would the socket likely remain the same from Kaby Lake to Coffee Lake? It's all based off the Skylake architecture, no?

The drop in L3 cache is a rumor, but no one's bothered to address it. Intel has no reason to cut back from its 2.5MB of L3 per core formula.

 

Coffee Lake is the Cannonlake architecture scaled up to 14nm, but it should still use the 1151 socket.


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9 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

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Ah okay. I did see that information about Coffee Lake and I would imagine the socket would stay the same although the website did mention otherwise.

 

Observing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_CPU_microarchitectures the socket changes every time the architecture changes, which should not happen until Ice Lake. Coffee Lake in this case seems like even a second refresh due to not jumping to 10nm yet, but we do get 2 more cores.

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14 minutes ago, tonyeezy said:

Ah okay. I did see that information about Coffee Lake and I would imagine the socket would stay the same although the website did mention otherwise.

 

Observing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_CPU_microarchitectures the socket changes every time the architecture changes, which should not happen until Ice Lake. Coffee Lake in this case seems like even a second refresh due to not jumping to 10nm yet, but we do get 2 more cores.

Cannonlake is a new architecture, but it's not built from the ground-up like Ice Lake will be. It's not just a shrink of Skylake. There are tweaks and improvements not related to the shrink, and those will show up with Coffee Lake as well.


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Ok, the socket is the same, but what about chipset  support?

 

Is there anything about coffee lake 6 core on Z170? 


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9 hours ago, Agost said:

Ok, the socket is the same, but what about chipset  support?

 

Is there anything about coffee lake 6 core on Z170? 

Given Kaby Lake will have support on Z170, some vendors will also put Cannon and Coffee support in too. It IS the same LGA 1151 socket.


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29 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Given Kaby Lake will have support on Z170, some vendors will also put Cannon and Coffee support in too. It IS the same LGA 1151 socket.

pls Asrock gibe me coffee lake BIOS support


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9 minutes ago, Agost said:

pls Asrock gibe me coffee lake BIOS support

I'd be surprised if MSI and Asrock didn't both give BIOS support. EVGA likely will too.


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4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

I'd be surprised if MSI and Asrock didn't both give BIOS support. EVGA likely will too.

Yeah, ASRock has been quite kind with BIOSes lately

IIRC it was the first to give OCing even on non Z 1xx chipsets (and 9x too)

I'm quite happy with my Extreme 7+  (all dem m.2 slotz)


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This isn't the first time I've heard the Coffee Lake code name. I wonder how long Intel has been planning this?

 

I hope whatever Kaby Lake board I get for my new build next year gets a Coffee Lake BIOS upgrade cause a Hexa-core on mainstream sockets sounds cool.


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On 19/11/2016 at 4:43 PM, porina said:

Mainstream hex core! Wonder if they might speed things up, depending on how Zen goes...

frankly it should have been here 2 years ago


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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Sauron said:

frankly it should have been here 2 years ago

That could be argued in many ways... what mainstream software is there to make use of it? Look at AMD... hasn't helped them. While not mainstream, the cost to a 5820k isn't much more than a high end quad. When building my main system, I could have got a budget 5820k/X99 system instead of the midrange 6700k/Z170 I went for.

 

My personally interest is simply I want the most FMA compute power possible as cheaply as possible. Right now, that is Intel's domain, and I hope they hurry up with AVX512.


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37 minutes ago, Sauron said:

frankly it should have been here 2 years ago

So should have been multithreaded and vectorized optimization, but I don't see anyone haranguing the devs...


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4 minutes ago, porina said:

That could be argued in many ways... what mainstream software is there to make use of it? Look at AMD... hasn't helped them. While not mainstream, the cost to a 5820k isn't much more than a high end quad. When building my main system, I could have got a budget 5820k/X99 system instead of the midrange 6700k/Z170 I went for.

 

My personally interest is simply I want the most FMA compute power possible as cheaply as possible. Right now, that is Intel's domain, and I hope they hurry up with AVX512.

That's not the point, "the mainstream" doesn't even take advantage of the high end quad cores properly. It just doesn't make sense to still have to shell out 300 bucks for those quad cores and have to buy a more expensive motherboard to access the hexas.

8 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

So should have been multithreaded and vectorized optimization, but I don't see anyone haranguing the devs...

I'm pretty sure devs get quite a bit of flac if the software doesn't perform well.


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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