M.2 SSD Waterblock

[nofxz]

Hello, My name is Jon. I have been a computer guy for a very long time. I don't find posting about my rigs interesting or fun to craft. I do however think that people will find this process of R&D making these blocks. I am aiming this at the new Samsung 960 Pro 512GB, but I wanna start this before that is available. So I currently have a Intel 540 460GB now, so I am gonna run with what I got. A bit about myself is that I have been a machinist over 5 years now, have a Haas vertical milling machine and a turning center. More about that later, I will be designing this in Mastercam. Now for some pictures for flavour. 

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

At first I was like "Why?" But then I'm like "Why not? :D"

 

Can't wait to see what comes out of it.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, Thread212 said:

Awesome yet actually its unnecessary.

But because YOU CAN so why not?
Keep it up. and update this.

I want to see the result.

It's totally necessary for the bling bling factor.

 

 

Also, I found you on the LTT FlyKly video, it was a little weird.

[W-L]

Hahaha love the building spirit  

 

Are you making it a full copper block with the bottom and top both being copper?

[Enderman]

8 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

At first I was like "Why?" But then I'm like "Why not? :D"

 

Can't wait to see what comes out of it.

 

5 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

Awesome yet actually its unnecessary.

But because YOU CAN so why not?
Keep it up. and update this.

I want to see the result.

 

If it ends up being anything like the 950 pro, then yeah it's definitely necessary.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, Thread212 said:

 

Its because they will do just fine without it. The world will end without it.

It's not a MUST.
But in terms of aesthetic. yes of course its necessary.

Fixed it for you.

[W-L]

2 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

Its because they will do just fine without it.

Its not a MUST.
But in terms of aesthetic. yes of course its necessary.

Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

Pourquoi?

The 950 Pro tends to thermal throttle if it gets pushed had for an extended period of time so it's not a bad idea to put a heatsink like the one from Alphacool to keep it coll and lowering performance. 

 

[SmashinMachine]

OK. 950 pro gets hot but you will never recognize a thermal throttling. And watercooling the m.2s is not new.

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

 

Its because they will do just fine without it.

Its not a MUST.
But in terms of aesthetic. yes of course its necessary.

Cooling is a must, liquid cooling isn't.

Most people go the easy way and use heatsinks.

 

5 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Pourquoi?

950 pro overheats easily.

[RollinLower]

am i the only one amazed at this guys milling center? like, he has CNC stuff and nobody gets excited?

dammit i want to see that beauty in action!

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

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(Gif posting is quickly becoming my calling card on this forum)

[SCHISCHKA]

I hope you do a full copper build with copper tubing

[Enderman]

9 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

That depends. if cooling is a must why SSD doesnt have a heatsink out of the box?
Or maybe the case itself is the heatsink? maybe no.

The 950 and 960pro are NVME, they do not have a casing.

They don't come with a heatsink either because it would not classify as M.2 standard, but they definitely should based on how hot they get under use.

[Enderman]

Just now, Thread212 said:

I am not referring to NVME . but SATA SSD.

And i already understand that. 

The waterblocks he is making are for the M.2 NVME drives, not for sata drives.

The sata SSDs don't need any coolinig.

[Drak3]

8 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

Now now.. dont fill this Thread with unrelated content  

Fine, but the SSD waterblock is a must as far as I and the penguin are concerned.

[Drak3]

Just now, wrathoftheturkey said:

NWOOOO! Thread212 will yell at us!

[nofxz]

Ahh Crap, I will edit the topic header. I am building this block as to allow use of M.2 SSD on the motherboard socket instead of a seperate addin PCIe card. I want to start with the single sided pcb SSD and will do the double sided once I have the single sided ones licked. So 256 or 512gb first then 1TB and bigger later. It will be copper block with plexi window to start, I will do full copper later. 

[Shiv78]

19 minutes ago, Thread212 said:

Wow. i never heard that SSD can be thermal throttled since there's no moving part in it.

 

CPUs and GPUs have no moving parts, but still thermal throttle. HDDs HAVE moving parts, but don't. What's your point lol

[SmashinMachine]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

The 950 and 960pro are NVME, they do not have a casing.

They don't come with a heatsink either because it would not classify as M.2 standard, but they definitely should based on how hot they get under use.

 

BULLSHIT 

WIKI:

M.2 (pronounced M dot two), formerly known as the Next Generation Form Factor (NGFF), is a specification for internally mounted computer expansion cards and associated connectors. It replaces the mSATAstandard, which uses the PCI Express Mini Card physical card layout and connectors.

NVM Express (NVMe) or Non-Volatile Memory Host Controller Interface Specification (NVMHCI) is a logical device interface specification for accessing non-volatile storage media attached via PCI Express (PCIe) bus.

These are two other things. 

950 PRO is standard M.2 SSD which runs with NVME Interface over PCIExpress 

 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, SmashinMachine said:

 

BULLSHIT 

WIKI:

M.2 (pronounced M dot two), formerly known as the Next Generation Form Factor (NGFF), is a specification for internally mounted computer expansion cards and associated connectors. It replaces the mSATAstandard, which uses the PCI Express Mini Card physical card layout and connectors.

NVM Express (NVMe) or Non-Volatile Memory Host Controller Interface Specification (NVMHCI) is a logical device interface specification for accessing non-volatile storage media attached via PCI Express (PCIe) bus.

These are two other things. 

950 PRO is standard M.2 SSD which runs with NVME Interface over PCIExpress 

 

The 950 pro is M.2 NVME.

The 960 pro is also going to be M.2 NVME.

The point is they both use the M.2 interface which has certain size restrictions, and they are both NVME which makes them heat up.

 

Why are you getting so upset?

[SmashinMachine]

Just now, Enderman said:

The 950 pro is M.2 NVME.

The 960 pro is also going to be M.2 NVME.

The point is they both use the M.2 interface which has certain size restrictions, and they are both NVME which makes them heat up.

 

Why are you getting so upset?

 You call it m2 nvme 

 

 

"NVMe" is only the Interface over PCIe just like SATA Interface 

Because the 950 pro is a SSD for the m.2 socket that supports nvme protocol (like ahci) over PCIE , it is called 950 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD. It is a SSD, not NVME

 

It is like IDE HDD or SATA HDD or AHCI SATA SSD

But you can not call a sata HDD only "SATA"

 

[Enderman]

36 minutes ago, SmashinMachine said:

 You call it m2 nvme 

 

 

"NVMe" is only the Interface over PCIe just like SATA Interface 

Because the 950 pro is a SSD for the m.2 socket that supports nvme protocol (like ahci) over PCIE , it is called 950 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD. It is a SSD, not NVME

 

It is like IDE HDD or SATA HDD or AHCI SATA SSD

But you can not call a sata HDD only "SATA"

 

You can call it a SCSI HDD or a sata HDD, nothing wrong with that.

I thought it was pretty obvious for people to know that the NVME ssds from samsung were only M.2.

Clearly I was wrong, apparently you didn't know that.

 

Also, I'm not going to say M.2 SSD, because not all M.2 SSDs get that hot, it's just the samsung NVME ones.

[SmashinMachine]

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

You can call it a SCSI HDD or a sata HDD, nothing wrong with that.

I thought it was pretty obvious for people to know that the NVME ssds from samsung were only M.2.

Clearly I was wrong, apparently you didn't know that.

 

Also, I'm not going to say M.2 SSD, because not all M.2 SSDs get that hot, it's just the samsung NVME ones.

Get the hell out of here man. You want only justify yourself, Don't  accept your fail. You have no stones to jump over your own shadow.

Here is a  nvme pcie ssd from samsung

don't mess with me

 

 

[W-L]

Ok let's keep things on topic here, and not get too far off track. 

 

[samiscool51]

(in a farmers accent) I get about 3-4 Mbps.. now thats progress!