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2003 Powermac G5 MBO + CPU upgrade?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey All!

 

For a while I have been planning to take my early model 2003 Powermac G5 sporting a 1.6Ghz IBM G5 single core CPU and upgrading to the late 2005 Dual 2.7Ghz dual core IBM CPUs.  And whilst I'm at it, upping my system to 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM, and an Nvidia Geforce 7800GTX 512mb GPU.  I know my current G5 Motherboard won't support all of this and so obviously I need to get one that supports the Dual 2.7Ghz IBM Dual core CPUs. 

 

Will this motherboard support this conversion:  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-Power-Mac-G5-Dual-Processor-630-6395-Main-Logic-Board-NEW-/302050067083?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

with these CPUs: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apple-630-7008-T6891-Power-Mac-G5-2-7GHz-Liquid-Cooled-Processor-Assembly-/361420380003?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

 

Extra links:

GPU: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Inno3D-GeForce-7800GTX-256MB-DDR3-TV-Ut-2x-DVi-PCI-Express-/321787404722?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

RAM: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/16GB-KIT-8X-2GB-4200-ECC-Unbuffered-Apple-Power-Mac-G5-Quad-Dual-Core-Memory-Ram-/221980917317?hash=item33af17fe45:g:Bw0AAOSwUdlWgunD

 

Thanks all!


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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Powermac G5's were obsolete when apple went to x86. A 1st generation Mac Mini will beat the best power mac g5 CPU wise and uses a hell of a lot less power and generates a lot less heat. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Powermac G5's were obsolete when apple went to x86. A 1st generation Mac Mini will beat the best power mac g5 CPU wise and uses a hell of a lot less power and generates a lot less heat. 

I wasn't asking about which mac is better than the G5, I was asking for advice on upgrading my G5, sorry to sound like an ass, but I didn't ask the community to simply get a response telling me that something else is better than what I already have when I wanted to know how to improve what I already own


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

The newer g5s have a different case so you can't just change the board. 

Hey its the guy from youtube!  Didn't know that, is there a way to change the layout to accommodate for the other motherboard?


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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1 minute ago, Othersideguy said:

Hey its the guy from youtube!  Didn't know that, is there a way to change the layout to accommodate for the other motherboard?

Idk about the mono mounts, but the io ports are way different. 

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Just now, Othersideguy said:

I wasn't asking about which mac is better than the G5, I was asking for advice on upgrading my G5, sorry to sound like an ass, but I didn't ask the community to simply get a response telling me that something else is better than what I already have

I am saying dont unless you really need a fast PowerPC computer.

 

If you want to use it since they look nice, and you like OS X, the early Mac Pros look very similar, preform quite well even for today's standards and you can buy them cheaply used. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Idk about the mono mounts, but the io ports are way different. 

true, maybe I'll have to find a new case and transfer the other parts over


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I am saying dont unless you really need a fast PowerPC computer.

 

If you want to use it since they look nice, and you like OS X, the early Mac Pros look very similar, preform quite well even for today's standards and you can buy them cheaply used. 

In Australia, even early low spec G5s go for ludicrous prices, up to $500 for one half covered in piss, not joking, I got mine at a steal for $130 (including shipping) from the UK compared to the same model here for $300 min.  So Mac Pros in complete working order go for $700+.  Not really willing to go that far, thus why upgrading MBO, CPU, RAM and GPU is cheaper and seemed more viable


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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8 minutes ago, Othersideguy said:

In Australia, even early low spec G5s go for ludicrous prices, up to $500 for one half covered in piss, not joking, I got mine at a steal for $130 (including shipping) from the UK compared to the same model here for $300 min.  So Mac Pros in complete working order go for $700+.  Not really willing to go that far, thus why upgrading MBO, CPU, RAM and GPU is cheaper and seemed more viable

I am from Australia, I have looked at the Melbourne Gumtree and the G5's sell for $50 to $150 depending on the model. 

 

Looking at eBay now, there is a lot of Mac Pros that have no bids on them and are at $200

m.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&_pgn=2&_nkw=Mac+pro&_sacat=111418&_dcat=111418&cnm=Apple+Desktops+%26+All-In-Ones&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=0

 

Looking at the completed listings, mac pros sell for just over $100 depending on the model. 

m.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&_pgn=2&_nkw=Mac+pro&_sacat=111418&_dcat=111418&cnm=Apple+Desktops+%26+All-In-Ones&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

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Posted · Original PosterOP
14 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I am from Australia, I have looked at the Melbourne Gumtree and the G5's sell for $50 to $150 depending on the model. 

 

Looking at eBay now, there is a lot of Mac Pros that have no bids on them and are at $200

m.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&_pgn=2&_nkw=Mac+pro&_sacat=111418&_dcat=111418&cnm=Apple+Desktops+%26+All-In-Ones&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=0

 

Looking at the completed listings, mac pros sell for just over $100 depending on the model. 

m.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?isRefine=true&_pgn=2&_nkw=Mac+pro&_sacat=111418&_dcat=111418&cnm=Apple+Desktops+%26+All-In-Ones&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

weird, when I paste your links in, it says nothing found


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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3 minutes ago, Othersideguy said:

weird, when I paste your links in, it says nothing found

Strange, it worked on my phone.

 

Sold listings:

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=mac+pro&_sop=15

 

Ones for auction:

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=mac pro&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

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My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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8 hours ago, Othersideguy said:

true, maybe I'll have to find a new case and transfer the other parts over

 

8 hours ago, Othersideguy said:

In Australia, even early low spec G5s go for ludicrous prices, up to $500 for one half covered in piss, not joking, I got mine at a steal for $130 (including shipping) from the UK compared to the same model here for $300 min.  So Mac Pros in complete working order go for $700+.  Not really willing to go that far, thus why upgrading MBO, CPU, RAM and GPU is cheaper and seemed more viable

just curiouswhat are you using the g5 for?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Mainly as a media player pc and classic gaming, nothing too intense, mainly for fun rather than practicality, thats why I have a pc workstation


My Specs:

  • Laptop: MSI GE72 2QL Apache
    • Motherboard: MSI GE72 2QL Apache MBO
    • CPU: Intel i7 5700hq 2.5Ghz (3Ghz boost)
    • GPU: Nvidia GTX950m 2GB
    • RAM: 16GB DDR3
    • HDD: 1TB HGST 2.5 laptop drive 5200 rpm
    • SSD: 128GB Toshiba m.2 SSD
  • Server/Retro Gaming machine: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation
    • Motherboard: Lenovo S20 MBO
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz (3.73Ghz Boost)
    • GPU: Asus OC Nvidia GTX 960 4gb
    • RAM: 12GB UDIMM DDR3
    • HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda, 500GB Western Digital Caviar
  • Powermac G5 2003:
    • Motherboard: Unnamed Apple Logic Board
    • CPU: Single Core IBM PowerPC G5 1.6Ghz
    • GPU: Nvidia Geforce 6200 LE 256MB
    • RAM: 1GB DDR2
    • HDD 1: 80GB MAXTOR STM3 Serial ATA
    • HDD 2: 40GB WD WD400BD Serial ATA
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