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Fallout 4 Mod Load Order?

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Hey all!  Hope y'all having a great day!

 

So lately I have been playing tons of Fallout 4 (A bit late to the party) and as I've gone on, I've remembered seeing some crazy awesome mods, so I began downloading some mods into my game through the Nexus Mod Manager.  All was good, I even got Automatron working.  This however had come crashing down and crumbled at 187 mods. My game, however, had worked before with all of these mods together which leaves me confused.  There are no issues with mod update clashes or game updates as everything is at the same update level.

 

My game has become seriously unstable, only launching after several attempts ranging from 2 - 8 attempts to launch (once it launches I can load the game and play, however, at random times if I go through a door requiring me to load the world or an indoor environment it crashes.) The only mod I can see having issues is Snap 'n' Build where it doesn't even appear at all in the crafting menu (but buildings I have built with it are still in the game and I can still grab walls and such).  Also a couple of settlement clean up mods don't seem to load up, specifically: Clean Sanctuary Roads and Sidewalks and Cleaner Settlements.

 

The only thing I can put it down to is the mod load order being out of place.  I have never really understood the mod load order and thus never really touched it.  This could more than likely be the issue and I would obviously need to reorganize my mods.  This however has its own set of issues as the nexus mod manager wont let me move mods in the mod load order as I want.  An example is that nexus mod manager wont let me place Snap 'n' build any higher than 7th in the load order for some unknown reason.  This simply results for mods being stuck in the load order it is and I can barely change it.  I have also attempted using Loot and Fallout 4 Mod Configuration Tool to organize my mods and to no avail, nothing has been fixed.  Now I would just be happy to just get Snap 'n' build working properly again but I want that and the settlement cleaning mods fixed somehow.

 

This is greatly annoying and I need help urgently.  I have included a list of all of my mods below as well as my mod load order:

 

My Mods:

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Mod Load Order:

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
Arbitration - Resources.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
Damage Threshold.esm=1
VideoMaster.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1
IF88TacShotgun.esp=1
BetterItemSorting.esp=1
The Castle Revamped felloutislife.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Institute.esp=1
SanctuaryHotSpringHome.esp=1
NoBuildLimits.esp=1
BetterItemSorting-APPAREL.esp=1
DebrisREMOVAL.esp=1
WRVR.esp=1
QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp=1
10mmRevolver.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul  - The Castle.esp=1
Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp=1
Eli_NukaStuff.esp=1
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Railroad HQ.esp=1
New Sanct bridge update fixes.esp=1
PowerArmorT49.esp=1
mk14.esp=1
cleaner settlements.esp=1
SkibsIF54.esp=1
Remington 1858.esp=1
AK47.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
AssaultRifleRename.esp=1
mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=1
BA Revolver Rifle.esp=1
Rangergearnew.esp=1
M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp=1
VarmintRifle.esp=1
GoodneighborHomeBigger.esp=1
Eli_Bunker.esp=1
SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp=1
P99.esp=1
ClassicSniper.esp=1
Extended weapon mods.esp=1
NanoSuit.esp=1
twFtSideArm.esp=1
BattleRifle.esp=1
Glock20.esp=1
HandmadeRevolver.esp=1
USP 45.esp=1
zWInsanity.esp=1
M1Garand.esp=1
M1014.esp=1
GatlingRifle.esp=1
GatlingRifle-NoIdiotSavant.esp=1
m82a.esp=1
DOOMMAC11.esp=1
Family Mauser.esp=1
ModularKalash.esp=1
R91M.esp=1
M14.esp=1
G3.esp=1
AN94.esp=1
3dscopes-Crossbowaddon.esp=0
3dscopes-framework.esp=1
3dscopes-G20addon.esp=0
3dscopes-g3addon.esp=0
3dscopes-g67addon.esp=1
3dscopes-m1911addon.esp=0
3dscopes-r91maddon.esp=1
3dscopes-uspaddon.esp=1
3dscopes.esp=1
3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp=1
3dscopes-m14addon.esp=1
M2216.esp=1
3dscopes-m2216addon.esp=1
M9.esp=1
3dscopes-m9addon.esp=1
VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp=1
WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp=1
Tougher Vertibirds.esp=1
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1
Eli_Apocalypse Attire.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp=1
DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp=1
Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp=1
Faction Field Outfits.esp=1
K9TacticalHarness.esp=1
Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp=1
WastelandFashionAccessories.esp=1
Wasteland Sniper by Hothtrooper44.esp=1
CheatTerminal.esp=1
el_AgentOutfit.esp=1
Eli_Accessories.esp=1
Army_Officers.esp=1
Bostonpolice.esp=1
Classic_Army_Helmet.esp=1
DansesWearableHolotags_v01-2.esp=1
Kerrigan.esp=1
KerriganGlasses.esp=1
NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp=1
AdventurerOutfit.esp=1
TroublemakerOutfit.esp=1
TrueReporter.esp=1
Vietnam_Fatigues.esp=1
WastelandFashionBandanasBlindfolds.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp=1
EFF.esp=1
Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=1
CompRedo.esp=1
ValentineNewCoat.esp=1
PersonalGuard.esp=1
Danse GTFO Power Armor.esp=1
Edit_Hancock.esp=1
CompVictoria.esp=1
WAYN_CompanionTracking.esp=1
CROSS_Techmask.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1
LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp=1
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1
BetterGenerators.esp=1
JaguarLMG.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp=1
Companion_BloodRose.esp=1
DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp=1
dinoshelf.esp=1
dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1
dinoshelf_retex.esp=1
Flags of the Old World.esp=1
Fusebox Generator.esp=1
LooksMirror.esp=1
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp=1
OCDecorator.esp=1
OCDispenser.esp=1
Power Conduits and Pylons - Increased Radius.esp=1
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp=1
DD_All_the_COncrete.esp=1
SpecialVideos.esp=1
VotWGeneralPurposePatch.esp=1
Workshop_Planters.esp=1
Locksmith.esp=1
LongerPowerLinesInf.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
CurieNewLook.esp=1
HairVariations_Conversions.esp=1
HairVariations_Elegant.esp=1
HairVariations_FairyTails.esp=1
HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp=1
HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
ImmersiveVendors.esp=1
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1
Eli_Immersive Coffee Mod 9000 GTX French Roast.esp=1
PreWarSafes.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
EAMR.esp=1
Eli_Fixed Dressers.esp=1
NukaColaClassic.esp=1
OVT.esp=1
THBrows.esp=1
LovingPiper.esp=1
SettlersRename.esp=1
fog.esp=1
Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1
BasementLiving.esp=1
fn five-seven v3.0.esp=1
Brahmin Watertrough.esp=1
BrahminFeederFull.esp=1
Business Settlements.esp=1
CleanSettlement.esp=1
Craftable Cats.esp=1
DD_MMX_Faction_Flags_AlwaysAvail.esp=1
OctaviusSentibar_Labels.esp=1
EnclaveX02.esp=1
BetterItemSorting-AID.esp=1
BetterItemSorting-JUNK.esp=1
BetterItemSorting-MISC.esp=1
BetterItemSorting-WEAPONS.esp=1
SatelliteWorldMap.esp=1
Femsheppings Autumn Fashion.esp=1
Eli_Sleeveless Outfits.esp=1
ARESAppleseed.esp=1
railroad_uniform.esp=1
railroad_uniform_leveledList.esp=1
Eli_AlecusRogueHD.esp=1
LovingCait.esp=1
EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1
More Armor Slots - All Dlc.esp=1
SSEX.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1
CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp=1
SanctuaryCleanRoad.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp=1
CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp=1
SignsOfTheTimesPosters.esp=1

 

Thanks all, any advice and help would be greatly appreciated

 

 

 

 

 

My Specs

 

  • Current Machine 2021 - 20XX
    • CPU: Intel i9 11900KF 3.5 GHz 8 Core 16 Thread
    • Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z73 RGB AIO
    • Motherboard: Gigabyte Z590 VISION G
    • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo (Black/White) 128GB (4x32GB) DDR4 @3600 MHz CL18
    • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC
    • SSD: 2x 2TB Intel 660p NVMe SSDs & 1x Samsung 860 QVO 2.5 SSD
    • HDD: 2x WD Black 4TB HDDs & 2x Segate 2TB HDDs
    • PSU: SeaSonic PRIME 1300 W 80+ Platinum
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

  • Retired Machine 2017 - 2021: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation 
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz
    • Motherboard: OEM Lenovo S20 Z79 MBO
    • RAM: 48GB (6x8GB) UDIMM DDR3
    • GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
    • SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
    • HDD: 2x Segate 7200rpm 2TB
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro
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Ya i  dont check your  Load Order Dude  ;). 

 

Use LOOT to check for load Errors and dont install too many mods at the same time. Install test install test,  thats what i do. I usual  have 100-120 mods active in FO/TES and with LOOT and carefull reading of the mod decriptions, everything works fine.

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I have already tried using loot and it has done nothing, as i said above

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 I have also attempted using Loot and Fallout 4 Mod Configuration Tool to organize my mods and to no avail, nothing has been fixed.

 

My Specs

 

  • Current Machine 2021 - 20XX
    • CPU: Intel i9 11900KF 3.5 GHz 8 Core 16 Thread
    • Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z73 RGB AIO
    • Motherboard: Gigabyte Z590 VISION G
    • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo (Black/White) 128GB (4x32GB) DDR4 @3600 MHz CL18
    • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC
    • SSD: 2x 2TB Intel 660p NVMe SSDs & 1x Samsung 860 QVO 2.5 SSD
    • HDD: 2x WD Black 4TB HDDs & 2x Segate 2TB HDDs
    • PSU: SeaSonic PRIME 1300 W 80+ Platinum
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

  • Retired Machine 2017 - 2021: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation 
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz
    • Motherboard: OEM Lenovo S20 Z79 MBO
    • RAM: 48GB (6x8GB) UDIMM DDR3
    • GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
    • SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
    • HDD: 2x Segate 7200rpm 2TB
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro
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16 minutes ago, Othersideguy said:

I have already tried using loot and it has done nothing, as i said above

 

Cant be. It will list every failure and other Infos about installed  mods and order.

CPU i7 6700k MB  MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO

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8 hours ago, Praesi said:

Cant be. It will list every failure and other Infos about installed  mods and order.

Well it doesn't list any failures and still doesn't work

My Specs

 

  • Current Machine 2021 - 20XX
    • CPU: Intel i9 11900KF 3.5 GHz 8 Core 16 Thread
    • Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z73 RGB AIO
    • Motherboard: Gigabyte Z590 VISION G
    • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo (Black/White) 128GB (4x32GB) DDR4 @3600 MHz CL18
    • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC
    • SSD: 2x 2TB Intel 660p NVMe SSDs & 1x Samsung 860 QVO 2.5 SSD
    • HDD: 2x WD Black 4TB HDDs & 2x Segate 2TB HDDs
    • PSU: SeaSonic PRIME 1300 W 80+ Platinum
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

  • Retired Machine 2017 - 2021: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation 
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz
    • Motherboard: OEM Lenovo S20 Z79 MBO
    • RAM: 48GB (6x8GB) UDIMM DDR3
    • GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
    • SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
    • HDD: 2x Segate 7200rpm 2TB
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro
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43 minutes ago, Othersideguy said:

Well it doesn't list any failures and still doesn't work

If your Loadorder isnt correct, LOOT will find it. Two or more Mods dont work together.

CPU i7 6700k MB  MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO

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I have used LOOT and it hasn't detected anything at all, It says that my load order is optimized, so LOOT is out of the question, it doesn't work and I need to do my mod load order manually, all I am asking is how

My Specs

 

  • Current Machine 2021 - 20XX
    • CPU: Intel i9 11900KF 3.5 GHz 8 Core 16 Thread
    • Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z73 RGB AIO
    • Motherboard: Gigabyte Z590 VISION G
    • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo (Black/White) 128GB (4x32GB) DDR4 @3600 MHz CL18
    • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC
    • SSD: 2x 2TB Intel 660p NVMe SSDs & 1x Samsung 860 QVO 2.5 SSD
    • HDD: 2x WD Black 4TB HDDs & 2x Segate 2TB HDDs
    • PSU: SeaSonic PRIME 1300 W 80+ Platinum
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

  • Retired Machine 2017 - 2021: Lenovo S20 Thinkstation 
    • CPU: Intel Xeon X5690 3.46Ghz
    • Motherboard: OEM Lenovo S20 Z79 MBO
    • RAM: 48GB (6x8GB) UDIMM DDR3
    • GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
    • SSD: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
    • HDD: 2x Segate 7200rpm 2TB
    • OS: Windows 10 Pro
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