WikiLeaks: Google's Eric Schmidt Collaborates With Clinton Campaign Team to Use the Cloud as Voter Information Aggregation Tool

[Michael McAllister]

Over the past few weeks, WikiLeaks, known for releasing information and communications of some of the most powerful government players, has been releasing daily dumps from the compromised email account of Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta.

 

In a new email release (ID 37262), it has been revealed that Google's Eric Schmidt detailed a rough draft back in 2014 to use the cloud (big data) to create a system in which to aggregate voter information.

 

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Depending on how much data Google intends to aggregate, this may not be an issue.  That being said, with the number of data breaches increasing in recent months, this really gives me pause.

 

 

I have mixed things about this.  As a geek, I love the idea of things being more connected and the ease of access to information.  How can I be assured that the data will be restricted in certain ways?  How many different eyes will see the information?

 

I've donated to candidates this election, so will third parties be able to hand this information off to Google at their leisure?  Given that a number of states use electronic voting machines, will Google somehow have access to this information?

 

What are your thoughts?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Michael McAllister said:

 How can I be assured that the data will be restricted in certain ways?

No way to. Once someone has data, nothing you can do to keep them from doing what ever they want with it.

[deleted_member_030719]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

No way to. Once someone has data, nothing you can do to keep them from doing what ever they want with it.

Exactly. If you want to really explore this, google people getting SWATTED which is what happens when someone gets your information and decides to fuck with you. (this is just meant as a way of saying that information is powerful & people can use it against you)

7 minutes ago, Michael McAllister said:

What are your thoughts?

I think this election and all it's drama is annoying bullshit and I can't wait until I am dead so I don't have to deal with bullshit like this anymore.

[Wrb]

I think that electronic voting is a terrible idea and should not be used at all. And if the wrong people got their hands on the information included that makes me feel more confident in my thoughts.

 

Also, I think the American election system is a terrible system anyways, so this confirms that.

[maulemall]

2 minutes ago, Jed M said:

Exactly. If you want to really explore this, google people getting SWATTED which is what happens when someone gets your information and decides to fuck with you. (this is just meant as a way of saying that information is powerful & people can use it against you)

I think this election and all it's drama is annoying bullshit and I can't wait until I am dead so I don't have to deal with bullshit like this anymore.

I got swatted after I was made a moderator on a couple google boards.

Funny thing is that the cops had never heard of it till I explained it to them.

 

The only real reason that people think this election cycle is nothing but Drama is because the MSM has sided with the Clintons and done everything they can to hide and protect the biggest crime family in the world. 

[AresKrieger]

[Wrb]

Why can't you just have Obama again, he seemed like a cool guy. He doesn't want war on Russia or Mexicans, He isn't a possible criminal, he just seems better.

 

(EDIT: I do know the reason why.)

 

[maulemall]

8 minutes ago, Wrb said:

Why can't you just have Obama again, he seemed like a cool guy. He doesn't want war on Russia or Mexicans, He isn't a possible criminal, he just seems better.

 

(EDIT: I do know the reason why.)

Because he is the worst President this country has ever had.

[Mr.McMister]

Appears to be partially about leveraging google adsense like tracking code to supply campaign volunteers with information so they can individually 'target" voter's interests and desires. In other words using advertising code to attempt to manipulate voters by only talking about the aspects and policies of the candidate they may like while ignoring, downplaying or at worst lying about the aspects they might not.

 

I also hate the part about setting up headquarters in areas with lots of educated individuals so they can underpay for good staff. It really disgusts me as they do this while out the other side of their mouths on the campaign trail saying they intend to create good paying jobs for this class of individuals if elected.

 

Man, it's times like this I'm glad I live in Canada. It's still not great here, but at least it's not even close to being as bad.

[samcool55]

Well, trump it is then

 

I don't live in the US so i don't need to make a decision btw...

 

Aaaanyway, digital voting is a terrible idea, it's very easy to rig and even easier to just yell it's rigged.

[Wrb]

3 minutes ago, maulemall said:

Because he is the worst President this country has ever had.

How, everything I've heard he has done seems good? I'm not too into US politics, all I see is what UK media says of him.

[maulemall]

5 minutes ago, Wrb said:

How, everything I've heard he has done seems good? I'm not too into US politics, all I see is what UK media says of him.

In 7 years he has driven debt to over 18 trillion, He has started wars illegally He has ignored the Constitution and put more people into poverty than ever before.

 

The only reason he has lasted or was ever elected or reelected was because he is half black.

He is the first affirmatively actioned person who got into Harvard on a quota to be elected president.

[ivan134]

5 minutes ago, Wrb said:

How, everything I've heard he has done seems good? I'm not too into US politics, all I see is what UK media says of him.

He's a right wing winger. You're not going to get facts of him or anything based on reality. He's the equivalent of the people in your country who sided with Brexit.

[maulemall]

4 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Well, trump it is then

 

I don't live in the US so i don't need to make a decision btw...

 

Aaaanyway, digital voting is a terrible idea, it's very easy to rig and even easier to just yell it's rigged.

trump can be dealt with. hilerry is a criminal who has no fear of breaking the law.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, maulemall said:

trump can be dealt with. hilerry is a criminal who has no fear of breaking the law.

...Both can be dealt with very easily, a single bullet is enough, not nice i know.

 

I always thought in the US people there like their guns so much because if there is ever a very bad gov, they can shoot them down.

No idea if it's true but if it is, well maybe some US citizens are going to enforce that rule O_o

Who knows....

[SurvivorNVL]

3 minutes ago, Wrb said:

How, everything I've heard he has done seems good? I'm not too into US politics, all I see is what UK media says of him.

He and Hillary have effectively committed treason.  There's a long list of things he's done that are considered treasonous by many instances in U.S. law, and Hillary has dozens more accounts, but in the case of Obama, him and Hillary have been causing the entire Syrian conflict and prolonging of war, mass droning of civilian populaces and the funding of Jihadist groups, Al Nusra, ISIS, Al Qaeda(again), and FSA(Free Syrian Army), in order to topple Assad, in order to build an oil pipeline in the region for Qatar and Turkey, though that goal may be sort of shuttered away now that Turkey is going Neo-Ottoman and not playing in to -anyone's- hands.  Hell, Fast and Furious is, was, and will forever be a blemish that needs to be brought up repeatedly.   Bush 1 and 2, both Clintons and Obama need to all be tried for treason.  And while we're at it, we need to strike Reagan's 'accomplishment' from the books due to his amnesty reform in the 80s causing half the problems we have now.

[maulemall]

4 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

He's a right wing winger. You're not going to get facts of him or anything based on reality. He's the equivalent of the people in your country who sided with Brexit.

Ivan is a leftist. So you know that he makes up his "Truths" to fit whatever crime the Clintons commit.

Notice how he hasn't defended with any evidence he just trys to attack with a term meant to scare you, Right winger...

But lets speak of his left wingers. Mao, Stalin, Hitler. All are left wingers that have been the cause of 60 plus murders and genocides themselves. Then you have the lower cast left wingers like Che and Pol Pot who killed murdered just a mere couple million.

 

Right wingers like Lincoln and Washington are the lefts nightmare.

[CoffeeBlack]

16 minutes ago, Wrb said:

How, everything I've heard he has done seems good? I'm not too into US politics, all I see is what UK media says of him.

It just depends on which side of politics you're on. I'm white and upper-middle class, as are most people that I know, and he's made things worse for us. But he's helped minorities and poorer people. So it all depends on your own circumstances.

 

I pay more in taxes and my health insurance premium has doubled. I know many self-employed people who have had to drop their health insurance altogether because of the massive premium hikes to cover other people's insurance. Luckily, my employer pays the majority of my premium.

 

I don't like him at all but I can see why there are people who do.

[stconquest]

Holy crap... the crap in this thread...

 

On Topic:  Nothing wrong with this, other than the data was stolen to begin with.  Sounds like part of a prospective business arrangement, mid stream.

[SurvivorNVL]

6 minutes ago, maulemall said:

Ivan is a leftist. So you know that he makes up his "Truths" to fit whatever crime the Clintons commit.

Notice how he hasn't defended with any evidence he just trys to attack with a term meant to scare you, Right winger...

But lets speak of his left wingers. Mao, Stalin, Hitler. All are left wingers that have been the cause of 60 plus murders and genocides themselves. Then you have the lower cast left wingers like Che and Pol Pot who killed murdered just a mere couple million.

 

Right wingers like Lincoln and Washington are the lefts nightmare.

Actually Hitler was more of teetering on the line between Totalitarian Left and Authoritarian Right, in terms of political compass.  Fascism is hybrid like, hated by all the other spectrum's.  It's one of the most interesting economic and political theories, in actuality, that and the backing of money by productive labour can create one hell of a growing economy.

[maulemall]

Just now, SurvivorNVL said:

Actually Hitler was more of teetering on the line between Totalitarian Left and Authoritarian Right, in terms of political compass.  Fascism is hybrid like, hated by all the other spectrum's.  It's one of the most interesting economic and political theories, in actuality, that and the backing of money by productive labour can create one hell of a growing economy.

To an extent yes but he came to power through National Socialism and was their leader . It was as far left as you could go without being a communist.

 

 

[SurvivorNVL]

42 minutes ago, CoffeeBlack said:

It just depends on which side of politics you're on. I'm white and upper-middle class, as are most people that I know, and he's made things worse for us. But he's helped minorities and poorer people. So it all depends on your own circumstances.

 

I pay more in taxes and my health insurance premium has doubled. I know many self-employed people who have had to drop their health insurance altogether because of the massive premium hikes to cover other people's insurance. Luckily, my employer pays the majority of my premium.

 

I don't like him at all but I can see why there are people who do.

Used to pay a 1/3rd for my private insurance before Obamacare, now pay, well three times as much, premiums are near doubling, and one of the medications I personally need is $3000 without coverage, and Obamacare won't cover it, so I'm stuck without a pill that keeps me healthy until my new private insurance kicks in.  In the case of people he has helped--it's pretty much nobody.  Even the Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan damned Obama for a legacy that only helped liberal billionaires while letting African Americans and Latinos continue to suffer in slums in Democrat controlled cities.  I don't often agree with Farrakhan, but sometimes he gets going, and when he goes, he goes hard.

 

37 minutes ago, maulemall said:

To an extent yes but he came to power through National Socialism and was their leader . It was as far left as you could go without being a communist.

 

 

At least in terms of economics, for the time.  It was anti-Capitalist and Anti-Communist.  It was Socialism but with principles of free enterprise, but in the interest of the state and the state was for the people.  The society was ultra-conservative in some ways, and liberal in others like the idea of clean-energy through nuclear and hydro, and then animal rights activism, anti-smoking, pushing for eugenics and policies that would abort some of the inferior population, but being pro-life in many others.  It's one of the most interesting systems of governance.  

[maulemall]

7 minutes ago, CoffeeBlack said:

It just depends on which side of politics you're on. I'm white and upper-middle class, as are most people that I know, and he's made things worse for us. But he's helped minorities and poorer people. So it all depends on your own circumstances.

 

I pay more in taxes and my health insurance premium has doubled. I know many self-employed people who have had to drop their health insurance altogether because of the massive premium hikes to cover other people's insurance. Luckily, my employer pays the majority of my premium.

 

I don't like him at all but I can see why there are people who do.

He hasn't help Blacks and minorities at all. In fact he has set them back in race relations 30 years.

I live in an ALL black apartment comunity and I know these people are hurting and he has done nothing but cause pain for them.

[Michael McAllister]

19 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

He's a right wing winger. You're not going to get facts of him or anything based on reality. He's the equivalent of the people in your country who sided with Brexit.

There's plenty of propaganda on both sides.  A system which forces the constituency to choose between two terrible options creates this false dichotomy of good cop, bad cop.

8 minutes ago, maulemall said:

Ivan is a leftist. So you know that he makes up his "Truths" to fit whatever crime the Clintons commit.

Notice how he hasn't defended with any evidence he just trys to attack with a term meant to scare you, Right winger...

But lets speak of his left wingers. Mao, Stalin, Hitler. All are left wingers that have been the cause of 60 plus murders and genocides themselves. Then you have the lower cast left wingers like Che and Pol Pot who killed murdered just a mere couple million.

 

Right wingers like Lincoln and Washington are the lefts nightmare.

 

Lincoln and Washington would be considered left in comparison to modern-day neocons.  In contemporary politics, the line between left and right politicians has all but merged.  It's the will of corporations versus everyone else (oligarchy).

[maulemall]

3 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

Used to pay a 1/3rd for my private insurance before Obamacare, now pay, well three times as much, premiums are near doubling, and one of the medications I personally need is $3000 without coverage, and Obamacare won't cover it, so I'm stuck without a pill that keeps me healthy until my new private insurance kicks in.  In the case of people he has helped--it's pretty much nobody.  Even the Nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan damned Obama for a legacy that only helped liberal billionaires while letting African Americans and Latinos continue to suffer in slums in Democrat controlled cities.  I don't often agree with Farrakhan, but sometimes he gets going, and when he goes, he goes hard.

How much are your rates going up next year... I hear as much as 200% for some