Jump to content

Should I be worried?

Xanthe_2871
 Share
Posted

The most powerful machine in my Folding@home setup is only using a single stock CPU cooler and whatever fans came with the graphics card. The case as a single small fan in the front that doesn't seem to be doing much. The case was not hot, but warmer than I'd like, with noticeably hot air coming out. Since I lack case fans I have one of these in the back pointed at the case's rear fan holes (which have no mounted fan):

 

Image result for yellow floor fan

 

and a small table fan sucking out air from a side vent. Is this a good idea or am I asking for trouble? 

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Could you provide a picture of the actual setup please? 

 

You seem to have a lot of interesting computer setups, I'd like to see them.

Gaming - Ryzen 5800X3D | 64GB 3200mhz |  MSI 6900 XT | Mini-ITX SFF Build

Home Server (Unraid OS) - Ryzen 2700x | 48GB 3200mhz |  EVGA 1060 6GB | 6TB SSD Cache [3x2TB] | 66TB HDD [11x6TB]

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Don't use the "air is hot" metric, humans are super sensitive when it comes to heat. All you've gotta ask yourself is: what are the CPU and GPU(s) temps after a while of full load crunch (and, by extension, what are said CPU and GPU)?

 

Find out which temp is it running at and then we'll be able to tell you if you should be worried or not.

Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems!

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
2 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

Could you provide a picture of the actual setup please? 

Please ignore the mess. I'm a messy person, don't judge me!IMG_20161025_184945766.jpg

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
4 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Don't use the "air is hot" metric, humans are super sensitive when it comes to heat. All you've gotta ask yourself is: what are the CPU and GPU(s) temps after a while of full load crunch (and, by extension, what are said CPU and GPU)?

 

Find out which temp is it running at and then we'll be able to tell you if you should be worried or not.

Right, right. Um, how would one test the temps? Hypothetically? Just to make sure...

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
2 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Please ignore the mess. I'm a messy person, don't judge me!

why is that side fan pointed at a side panel with no air vents (from what I see)?

Gaming - Ryzen 5800X3D | 64GB 3200mhz |  MSI 6900 XT | Mini-ITX SFF Build

Home Server (Unraid OS) - Ryzen 2700x | 48GB 3200mhz |  EVGA 1060 6GB | 6TB SSD Cache [3x2TB] | 66TB HDD [11x6TB]

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
1 minute ago, suchamoneypit said:

why is that side fan pointed at a side panel with no air vents?

Oh there is a vent there. It's behind the fan. I'd say it's about 4 inches. 

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
2 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Right, right. Um, how would one test the temps? Hypothetically? Just to make sure...

MSI afterburner

Gaming - Ryzen 5800X3D | 64GB 3200mhz |  MSI 6900 XT | Mini-ITX SFF Build

Home Server (Unraid OS) - Ryzen 2700x | 48GB 3200mhz |  EVGA 1060 6GB | 6TB SSD Cache [3x2TB] | 66TB HDD [11x6TB]

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

How you cool the setup doesn't really matter... what matters are the temps that your cooling system achieves.  How hot are the CPU and GPU under load?  These numbers will either be OK or not, and nothing else really matters.

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
1 minute ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Right, right. Um, how would one test the temps? Hypothetically? Just to make sure...

HWMonitor. Minimize the HD / SSD useless info, take a print and post here for us to see.

Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems!

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
2 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

MSI afterburner

Thank you. My temps, with this current setup are: 

 

foldingtemps.png

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
3 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Thank you. My temps, with this current setup are: 

 

 

71 C on the GPU is just fine.  They will start to limit themselves at 83 (iirc) but even that is far from damaging (though you'd be best to avoid holding them at that 24/7 for the sake of longevity)

 

How about CPU now?

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author

I set up the fans about 20 minutes ago, I will turn them off for a while and see where it goes in temps. 

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

Thank you. My temps, with this current setup are: 

Okay, GPU is fine. 71C is a very nice temp, you can let it heat up further. Now all that's left is the CPU part

 

Oh, and just as a warning, your 970 is running at lower RAM clock that what it was supposed to. It should run at 3506, not 3004. To fix it, download Nvidia Inspector and on the OC tab, change the dropdown at the top to P2, slide the vRAM speed from 3004 to the max 3506 limit and then hit apply. You've gotta do that everytime you reboot your PC or install a new driver version. Alternatively, flash a custom BIOS to your GPU (that was my solution to the problem).

Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems!

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
3 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Okay, GPU is fine. 71C is a very nice temp, you can let it heat up further. Now all that's left is the CPU part

 

Oh, and just as a warning, your 970 is running at lower RAM clock that what it was supposed to. It should run at 3506, not 3004. To fix it, download Nvidia Inspector and on the OC tab, change the dropdown at the top to P2, slide the vRAM speed from 3004 to the max 3506 limit and then hit apply. You've gotta do that everytime you reboot your PC or install a new driver version. Alternatively, flash a custom BIOS to your GPU (that was my solution to the problem).

Oh, thank you! I had no idea, I rarely use this rig.

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author

tempswithfanson.png

 

I will turn off the external fans and report back later with the change. If I don't need these fans then why waste the power?

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author

It's been a few hours with the fans off, here are my temps now. Still safe? @Imakuni @Ryan_Vickers @suchamoneypit

 

tempswithfansooff.png

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
59 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

It's been a few hours with the fans off, here are my temps now. Still safe? @Imakuni @Ryan_Vickers @suchamoneypit

 

 

Safe?  Yes.  Ideal?  Not so much... personally I'd like to get that CPU down a bit but those are what I would expect to see on the stock cooler in your situation.

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Safe?  Yes.  Ideal?  Not so much... personally I'd like to get that CPU down a bit but those are what I would expect to see on the stock cooler in your situation.

Then I guess I should use the fans. :/

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
3 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

Then I guess I should use the fans. :/

that or upgrade the cooler if you can.  Like I said, you don't have to, but it would be nice to not run it at 80 C

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

that or upgrade the cooler if you can.  Like I said, you don't have to, but it would be nice to not run it at 80 C

I just turned the fans back on again a few minutes ago. It was sitting at 88 C on the hottest core! 

 

Now it's at 60 C.

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
1 hour ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

I just turned the fans back on again a few minutes ago. It was sitting at 88 C on the hottest core! 

 

Now it's at 60 C.

How about just taking off the side panel? That should do it for airflow.

Want to help researchers improve the lives on millions of people with just your computer? Then join World Community Grid distributed computing, and start helping the world to solve it's most difficult problems!

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
18 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

How about just taking off the side panel? That should do it for airflow.

I have cats. I don't want them messing up my rig, or vice versa. :S

Yes, it's 2871 as in the year 2871. I traveled all this way, back in time, just to help you. And you thought your mama lied when she said you were special. -_-

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
6 hours ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

I just turned the fans back on again a few minutes ago. It was sitting at 88 C on the hottest core! 

 

Now it's at 60 C.

Well that's a substantial improvement.  I would feel perfectly fine with 60 as a 24/7 temp.

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing Folding@home, Boinc, and Coin Mining

×