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Microsoft reports very little fragmentation of Windows 10 - Over 75% of users on the latest version.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Microsoft is happy to report that over 75% of devices running Windows 10 (so roughly 300,000 devices) are running the recent released Anniversary Update.

 

Microsoft is happy about this achievement since it shows that Windows 10 fragmentation is minimal and that most devices are running up to date.

 

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The last time we checked in September the Anniversary Update (1607) was only on 1/3 of all Windows 10 PCs, which was itself a doubling from the prior month. Microsoft noted it was doing a slow rollout of the update to catch any issues before they affected millions and that seems to be paying off.

 

Now, however, the company is opening the spigot on updates as now 76.6 percent of all Windows 10 PCs are on the Anniversary Update. That's also good news for developers who can now target their apps with new Anniversary Update features without leaving many users behind.

Interestingly, new PCs like the HP Spectre x360 that went on sale this week still ship with Threshold 2 (1511) and do not automatically get the Anniversary Update (they will in November). That means some of these numbers could wax and wane depending on PC sales too.

Nice. This will mean that developers can start targeting the new Anniversary Update SDKs and take advantage of new features :).

 

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Of course there's very little fragmentation. 1: They force everyone to upgrade eventually, and 2: Most of the people who delay updates are probably gamers, and they force updates on them by making games and apps that require said updates.

 

Like Gears of War 4... which is the only reason why I'm even using the latest version of Win 10. 


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how would you even block anniversary update? I wasn't even able too block/deny. Well this is no miracle with this strategy that there's little fragmentation. It's almost a poor result that "only" 78% run on 1607

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4 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

how would you even block anniversary update? I wasn't even able too block/deny. Well this is no miracle with this strategy that there's little fragmentation. It's almost a poor result that "only" 78% run on 1511

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3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I'm still on 1151.

While as I said before so am I. My laptop on the other hand is on the anniversary build which is kind of annoying since I'd prefer it on my desktop.


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I totally see why Microsoft is doing this. Windows is inherently insecure and people not updating is doesn't help this problem. Though with updates comes issues with programs this is why they let you defer updates so businesses can test compatibility before updates, not great for companies so they are forced to update software.

 

If it wasn't for a handful of games and features; such as windows storage pool I would be on Linux fulltime.


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@zMeul Please enlighten me on what is so funny.

 

31 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I'm still on 1151.

you mean 1511?

 

26 minutes ago, it_dont_work said:

While as I said before so am I. My laptop on the other hand is on the anniversary build which is kind of annoying since I'd prefer it on my desktop.

5 out of the 5 Windows 10 devices in my house are running Windows 10 version 1607......


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25 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

I totally see why Microsoft is doing this. Windows is inherently insecure and people not updating is doesn't help this problem. Though with updates comes issues with programs this is why they let you defer updates so businesses can test compatibility before updates, not great for companies so they are forced to update software.

 

If it wasn't for a handful of games and features; such as windows storage pool I would be on Linux fulltime.

With Windows 7, I see teachers in my school dismiss update notifications all the time....

 

The few teachers which run Windows 10 are all pretty much up to date.....


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44 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

how would you even block anniversary update? I wasn't even able too block/deny. Well this is no miracle with this strategy that there's little fragmentation. It's almost a poor result that "only" 78% run on 1607

The idea is for the majority, if not ALL, of Windows users to be using the same version of Windows.

 

This is the grand master plan and Windows 10 was supposed to see this come to light.

 

This makes it super attractive for developers and OEMs!

 

54 minutes ago, Kevin_Walter said:

Of course there's very little fragmentation. 1: They force everyone to upgrade eventually, and 2: Most of the people who delay updates are probably gamers, and they force updates on them by making games and apps that require said updates.

What is wrong with updating Windows?

54 minutes ago, Kevin_Walter said:

Like Gears of War 4... which is the only reason why I'm even using the latest version of Win 10. 

Again, see above ^^^


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9 minutes ago, GlassBomb said:

The reason why so many are running the latest version of Windows 10 is really simple.

 

They are forcing the updates down your throat. Like it or not.

If they didn't then people wouldn't update for whatever reason. And so they are forcing it.....


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11 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

With Windows 7, I see teachers in my school dismiss update notifications all the time....

 

The few teachers which run Windows 10 are all pretty much up to date.....

 

dismissing updates is exactly the behaviour Microsoft is trying to eradicate.


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3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

If they didn't then people wouldn't update for whatever reason. And so they are forcing it.....

The problem as I see it isn't that you're getting updates. It is that there is no way to cancel/halt these updates.

 

Sure, this isn't a problem for the majority of the users. But the users who rely on a computer not shutting off randomly to finish updates can cause A LOT of problems.

 

Edit: Examples are if you are actually using the computer for work. I know of several who were working when their windows wanted to update stuff. They took a short break for lunch or similar, and came back to a rebooted computer. Losing some of their previous work.

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1 minute ago, GlassBomb said:

The problem as I see it isn't that you're getting updates. It is that there is no way to cancel/halt these updates.

 

Sure, this isn't a problem for the majority of the users. But the users who rely on a computer not shutting off randomly to finish updates can cause A LOT of problems.

You can set it so that it can only update within a specific time period during the day.


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Just now, AluminiumTech said:

You can set it so that it can only update within a specific time period during the day.

But it is still forcing you to update. That is my issue. And once it has done the initial download and installation of that update, then it wants to reboot.

 

And you can't stop that.

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Just now, GlassBomb said:

But it is still forcing you to update. That is my issue. And once it has done the initial download and installation of that update, then it wants to reboot.

 

And you can't stop that.

But nobody would update if it didn't force you. And unless somebody comes up with an idea which fixes that, you'll get used to this.


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In the Anniversary update, you can set a time period in which Windows is allowed to autoupdate.


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36 minutes ago, GlassBomb said:

The reason why so many are running the latest version of Windows 10 is really simple.

 

They are forcing the updates down your throat. Like it or not.

i dont know how i feel about this. on the one hand it is making windows more secure and giveing devs an even platform to work on, but its annoying as hell when your forced onto a update that has a known issue. 

23 minutes ago, GlassBomb said:

The problem as I see it isn't that you're getting updates. It is that there is no way to cancel/halt these updates.

 

Sure, this isn't a problem for the majority of the users. But the users who rely on a computer not shutting off randomly to finish updates can cause A LOT of problems.

 

Edit: Examples are if you are actually using the computer for work. I know of several who were working when their windows wanted to update stuff. They took a short break for lunch or similar, and came back to a rebooted computer. Losing some of their previous work.

you can set your computer to update at night and tbf you can hold the update off for a while you should be able to avoid this.


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52 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Please enlighten me on what is so funny.

everything is funny

  1. MS is forcing W10 updates 
  2. W10 installs still aren't on the same build
  3. 19% of the installs are on a year old build

it's fucking hilarious

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@GlassBomb And it seems that this forcing updates came too little too late for Mobile......

 


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1 hour ago, GlassBomb said:

The problem as I see it isn't that you're getting updates. It is that there is no way to cancel/halt these updates.

 

Sure, this isn't a problem for the majority of the users. But the users who rely on a computer not shutting off randomly to finish updates can cause A LOT of problems.

 

Edit: Examples are if you are actually using the computer for work. I know of several who were working when their windows wanted to update stuff. They took a short break for lunch or similar, and came back to a rebooted computer. Losing some of their previous work.

Forcing updates is better for the average derpy user. It's worse for the tech-savvy user who knows to keep the OS up to date, but wants to control when and how.

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1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

If they didn't then people wouldn't update for whatever reason. And so they are forcing it.....

1 hour ago, vorticalbox said:

dismissing updates is exactly the behaviour Microsoft is trying to eradicate.

 

That's sort of like saying, if rapists didn't force people into unwanted sex, people would have their say over their own body... and that's the behaviour that rapists are trying to eradicate.

 

 

Those Windows installations are those people's own personal space, and property, for them to have say over. When Microsoft forces updates on people, Microsoft is stealing those people's rightful say over their own property and space. This is Microsoft being immoral.

 

Not to mention that Microsoft's update quality completely sucks nowadays, and so there's very good reason why people would want to avoid new Microsoft updates:

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/kindle-crashes-and-broken-powershell-something-isnt-right-with-windows-10-testing/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3107306/microsoft-windows/microsoft-admits-to-distributing-windows-printing-bugs-in-kb-3177725-and-kb-3176493.html

https://redmondmag.com/articles/2016/06/16/june-patch-breaks-group-policy-settings.aspx

http://windowsreport.com/partition-disappears-windows-10-anniversary-update/

http://superuser.com/questions/1022063/windows-10-default-programs-keep-changing

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/16-windows-10-anniversary-update-issues-fix/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/15/microsoft-warns-windows-10-anniversary-update-crashes-problems/

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/717115/Windows-10-Anniversary-Update-Install-Problems-Fail

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