HTC codename Bolt (Next flagship) leaked with no Audio jack!

[AlwaysFSX]

8 hours ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Then again, this is WCCF talking...

Hey if they shotgun enough things something is bound to hit.

[Clanscorpia]

8 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

 USB-c for audio has the advantage of having a DAC inline for better sound quality. 

doesnt always help

[Curufinwe_wins]

6 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

doesnt always help

In fact id argue it will probably almost always hurt.

[vanished]

8 hours ago, vorticalbox said:

USB-c for audio has the advantage of having a DAC inline for better sound quality. 

wat?  regardless where the DAC ends up, the quality of it is going to determine your sound... putting it in the phone or in the cable doesn't really make a difference; using a good one vs a crap one does.

[The Benjamins]

I love the design, mm chamfers. But really don't like the lack of 3.5mm I watch twitch at work on my phone and have it charging while my headphones are plugged in.

[dizmo]

I highly doubt this is their next flagship. It looks a lot more like a Desire range phone.

That said, even if it does ditch the 3.5mm jack I don't see it as a huge issue. They include an adapter in the box (generally).

It is however a shame there aren't more USB-C headphones on the market, though as more phones adopt this, more will be produced. It's the chicken and the egg. One has to come before the other.

I think with the way things are going Bluetooth headphones will take over before USB-C headphones do.

 

9 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

TRIGGERED

 

[Insert massive rant here]

 

FFS. Please Jesus. I have $150 USD Sennheiser Headphones. Not cheap garbage. It's not easy for me to buy new $150 USB-C headphones and why should I?

 

9 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

BUT WHY SHOULD I? There is no justifiable reason why I can't use my nice headphones without an Adapter.

Same. Not that I was tremendously interested but this definitely is a big no no.

It's a small adapter, I really don't see what the huge deal is.

Not only that, why complain about it? Just don't buy the device. There's tons of other options out there.

You don't have to buy new headphones. They include an adapter in the box. Don't like the adapter? Buy USB-C headphones.

A lot of higher end headphones have detachable cables. The upgrade to USB-C will be a piece of cake.

 

You keep saying "why should I" and "I shouldn't have to" when, realistically, you don't. Buy something else.

If they choose to go USB-C with their future products, that's entirely their decision. Vote with your wallet.

If they continue with USB-C, then clearly it wasn't enough and the future is going in a different direction than you.

 

9 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

I shouldn't need to buy an adapter since I have choice to buy phones with a headphone jack.

Usually they're included with the phone anyway.

But, as you said. Buy another device. If everyone switches over, then clearly you're in the minority and SOL.

7 hours ago, Captain Chaos said:

Just use them with an audiophile quality music player.  They're mostly wasted on a mere phone. 

So much of this.

4 hours ago, Daring said:

But that'd be another thing to carry around. Besides, who wants to use an adapter with their phone?!

If it's connected to the headphones, is it really like carrying around something else? Not really.

You're just plugging it into a different port. Why not just ignore the adapter once it's attached?

3 hours ago, Sampsy said:

I'm all up for moving audio to UCB-C - but a much better way of doing it than suddenly dropping the existing audio jack is to begin supporting audio over usb-c now, phasing out the old connector over a few years to give people time to upgrade. 

I don't think that'd make much sense, since I imagine most people use headphones under $50, or the included ones in the box. The cost is small compared to the cost of the phone, so if it's something they really want to use then they can use the adapter.

Plus it pushes companies to make USB-C headphones. If there's no demand, why make the product?

1 hour ago, Copuis said:

*eye twitch*

 

i hope it is a matter of the jack being on the top of the phone or something

also, whats with all the mic holes on the back?

 

Noise cancellation.

[AlTech]

2 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

So... what's the deal with it? 

I didn't do the article since it was WCCFTECH and sounded highly improbable.

[iamdarkyoshi]

Looks like everyone is going to have to stick with their existing pre-apple-fuckup phones...

[spartaman64]

NNUUUUUUUUUUYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Clanscorpia]

Looks  pretty nice tho

[kamuixmod]

Great more phones where people can drill holes to get their 3.5mm jack in.

[Daveeede]

As someone with an iPhone 7 who uses headphones everyday (for 2-6 hours per day) I have no problem with the included adapter. I keep it attached to my headphones. 

 

Yes, it sucks that the market is slowly moving away from the 3.5mm jack, but I'm ok as long as it is justified. If I understand correctly Apple did it to improve the water resistance. 

[Dabombinable]

2 hours ago, Sampsy said:

Because frankly it is a bad connector by today's standards. Sure it carries an audio signal just fine but it is larger than it needs to be, isn't very well suited for a plethora of other audio-related functions and it's completely unnecessary in a world where a high-bandwidth usb connector can do pretty much anything.  

 

 

There is the 2.5mm jack. And no USB connector. C or Lightning included, has better durability than the 3.5mm jack. I've always had USB connectors die on a device before the headphone jack.

[Godlygamer23]

13 hours ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Then again, this is WCCF talking...

Do you have anything that shows the information presented is wrong? WCCF may not be the best source, but they have gotten many things correct, and therefore it's not proper to dis them simply because you don't like the information being presented. Ditching the headphone jack is not all that unlikely, as horribly as it is.

 

Please judge the information on actual opposing evidence and logic, not "well, it comes from WCCF so it can't be true."

Edited October 17, 2016 by Godlygamer23

[AlTech]

6 hours ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Is this supposed to be a midranger? Because theres loads of phones with superior specs at a similar price...

Nope. It's probably gonna be a flagship.

 

4 hours ago, Sampsy said:

Because frankly it is a bad connector by today's standards. Sure it carries an audio signal just fine but it is larger than it needs to be, isn't very well suited for a plethora of other audio-related functions and it's completely unnecessary in a world where a high-bandwidth usb connector can do pretty much anything.  

 

 

But most people have headphones with 3.5mm jack............ Do you honestly want to piss off the majority of people just to use a new standard?

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. It's probably gonna be a flagship.

 

But most people have headphones with 3.5mm jack............ Do you honestly want to piss off the majority of people just to use a new standard?

I just hope that the "no headphone jack" BS stays outside of the $100-$200 AUD price bracket. Because I don't want my next equivalent of the Moto G or ZTE 4G fitsmart to be lacking one.

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

I just hope that the "no headphone jack" BS stays outside of the $100-$200 AUD price bracket. Because I don't want my next equivalent of the Moto G or ZTE 4G fitsmart to be lacking one.

Same kinda story. I want the $200-300 phones to keep the headphone jack. because honestly, as great as $700 flagships are, they really kill your wallet.

[Lays]

14 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

But what about my expensive audiophile quality headphones?

I mean.. Using an adapter is dumb yeah but realistically speaking $150 is pretty entry level for "expensive audiophile quality headphones"

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

I mean.. Using an adapter is dumb yeah but realistically speaking $150 is pretty entry level for "expensive audiophile quality headphones"

So you're trying to justify removing the second most ubiquitous port on a phone?

[vanished]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

I mean.. Using an adapter is dumb yeah but realistically speaking $150 is pretty entry level for "expensive audiophile quality headphones"

And (not to side with the jack removal people but) any good headphones should have a detachable cable, allowing you to convert them from 3.5 mm to whatever you need with a new cable that has an inline DAC without having yo replace them outright.  But I digress...

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

And (not to side with the jack removal people but) any good headphones should have a detachable cable, allowing you to convert them from 3.5 mm to whatever you need with a new cable that has an inline DAC without having yo replace them outright.  But I digress...

I would agree with that statement. Except my headphones currently uses 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable.

 

And I doubt Sennheiser would make a 2.5mm to USB C cable with a DAC.

[Lays]

4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

So you're trying to justify removing the second most ubiquitous port on a phone?

I'm not trying to justify it at all.  I don't think they should get rid of it, and nowhere did I say they should.

 

I'm just saying using an adapter is stupid yes, but it's not the end of the world.  I mainly commented because you kept making such a big deal out of your "expensive audiofeels headphones" as if it justifies never having to use an adapter

[AlTech]

2 minutes ago, Lays said:

I'm not trying to justify it at all.  I don't think they should get rid of it, and nowhere did I say they should.

 

I'm just saying using an adapter is stupid yes, but it's not the end of the world.  I mainly commented because you kept making such a big deal out of your "expensive audiofeels headphones" as if it justifies never having to use an adapter

On a relatively expensive purchase, you expect it to function with most, if not all devices.

[Copuis]

all rage at the removal of the port aside

by taking the port away, apple basically said, we are no longer a true business phone (and before someone gets on a fan boi soap box hear me out)

after not only working in a few fields that required many hours on the phone to clients, and being at the airport for hours and hours and hours, have a look at all the "important" people, those that truly use their phone as a work horse,
90% or so have tethered headsets, even myself when I travel rock a stereo set with one headphone cut off, it streamlines the amount of things to charge, it means that as long as the phone as power, you can talk hands free, and you dont have to be that dude using speaker phone in an airline club
 

[Thony]

This just shows how everyone else doesnt do shit until Apple does it first....