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Posted · Original PosterOP

hey guys its Scitest here and i have been really struggling with my current setup|(Dell N510 laptop...)

I am not able to play any games nor am i able to use softwares like premire photoshop and audacity 

(i had a desktop before ...but we sold it when we mowed)

here is the setup That i have selected

 

i7 6700k

gigabyte gaming 7 (Or designaire)

Deepcool Maelstorm 360 (RED)

Strix 1080

Antec HCP 750(or Seasonic s12g 750..if i can locate one)

WD black ;2tb

Samsung evo 850:250GB

Corsair 780t

Gskill Ripjaws v(2x8gb)

Steelseries elite Prism

Razer blackwidow chroma

g502 oR mamba TE

Asus Vg278Qe

NZXT hue

Logitech C920

(extra fans :5x140mm SP)

Total(adding OS and Adobe cloud subsription):INR 200000(+- 5percent)

 

My parents shot down the idea (So help plz) 

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1) What did they actually say... like it is a horrible idea?

 

2) If you are asking for them to buy it for you then you are greedy, work for the money :3

 

3) Make  the list alot smaller and only add one ram stick and the CPU first. Then in a while tell them that its not working and that you need to buy one more part (the GPU), thats what i did,


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Maybe ask for something a little more modest... if my hypothetical son asked me for a 3000$ desktop I too would say no...


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Tell them that Comic_Sans_ms would really like a free computer, they will have to give if to me. 

 

You should probably fix the title  

 

i was confused b/w the titles

How to convince my parents to get me a new pC

and 

How did you convince your parents

And messed up

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Well first of all, spend less money. Maybe an i5-6400 and a 1060 (6GB). A GTX 1080 is not named a GTX 1080 because its meant for 1080p gaming. a 1060 on the otherhand is under half as much and will run basically any game at max settings 60fps EZ except maybe shadow of mordor with some insane texture packs

 

[edit] if you have to ask permission to get a PC, you dont need a 6700k, thats for damn sure


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6 minutes ago, Scitesh said:

Total(adding OS and Adobe cloud subsription):INR 200000(+- 5percent)

 

My parents shot down the idea (So help plz) 

Lol. Are your parents rich or are you just greedy? :P


 
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3 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

3) Make  the list alot smaller and only add one ram stick and the CPU first. Then in a while tell them that its not working and that you need to buy one more part (the GPU), thats what i did,

You cheeky bastard


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

1) What did they actually say... like it is a horrible idea?

 

2) If you are asking for them to buy it for you then you are greedy, work for the money :3

 

3) Make  the list alot smaller and only add one ram stick and the CPU first. Then in a while tell them that its not working and that you need to buy one more part (the GPU), thats what i did,

1) nope they have been delaying it since last October(GPU upgraded from 980ti to 1080)

2) i am a student (in india work study is frowned upon and my mom shot down that idea too)

3)let me try that idea out

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When I see people creating topics about advice on asking their parents for large amounts of money so they can game, I just want to leave the internet forever...


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  • Intel Core i5 6500 3.2GHz CPU
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  • Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB 2400MHz, Gskill Ripjaws 8GB
  • Asus GTX 1060 Turbo
  • Kingston HyperX Savage 240GB SSD
  • Seagate 1TB NAS Grade HDD x2
  • Thermaltake NiC F3 Cooler
  • EVGA Supernova 750 G2 Power Supply
  • NZXT S340 Red/Black Case
  • Noctua NF-F12 Fan x2

Laptop Specs:

  • Intel Pentium N3700 CPU
  • 4GB Kingston RAM
  • Intel HD Graphics
  • Windows 10 Home

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, MaxBunny said:

Lol. Are your parents rich or are you just greedy? :P

a bit of both :P

9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Maybe ask for something a little more modest... if my hypothetical son asked me for a 3000$ desktop I too would say no...

 

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10 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Maybe ask for something a little more modest... if my hypothetical son asked me for a 3000$ desktop I too would say no...

they promised me an upgrade when we sold my previous pc (gtx 970 + i5 4690k)

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You should try to put a budget pc together first and not go all out from the start.

And if they say no, well maybe you should just accept that and try to work for it yourself. :P


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Warning said:

When I see people creating topics about advice on asking their parents for large amounts of money so they can game, I just want to leave the internet forever...

The doors are open(re enter when you are ready)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

You should try to put a budget pc together first and not go all out from the start.

And if they say no, well maybe you should just accept that and try to work for it yourself. :P

Can you give me some ideas?

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1 minute ago, Scitesh said:

they promised me an upgrade when we sold my previous pc (gtx 970 + i5 4690k)

Yeah but this is a loooong shot from an 4690k + 970... tone it down to a 1070 and 6600k with a cheaper monitor and try again.


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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That is bit over the need imo. I get that you want something more than your current laptop. But getting your parents pay for your dream machine won't happen. Not unless you already live in mansion and drive supercar. In that situation spending 200k for PC and some other stuff will be much easier.

 

First, do you study something which needs Adobe Cloud subscription and could you possible pay that yourself? Its always easier to bargain with parents when you take part of responsibility. Second, drop anything from that listing which you don't absolutely want or need. Like NZXT Hue and C920. And scale rest of the stuff down. Like case, extra fans, peripherals. From what you have replied so far, I think your parents can do something that is about half of price. And you can upgrade later more, maybe with your own money.


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Just now, Scitesh said:

Can you give me some ideas?

Btw you shouldn't have sold the GTX 970 + i5 4690k.

At least not completely, just swapping the gpu would be a much better idea but i guess it's too late for that now O_o

 

Imo you are lucky if you manage to get a similar system back like the one you sold. Getting rid of the previous system was a bad idea...


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Posted · Original PosterOP
19 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

 

3) Make  the list alot smaller and only add one ram stick and the CPU first. Then in a while tell them that its not working and that you need to buy one more part (the GPU), thats what i did,

If i do that 

(everything but GPU and peripherals):80k

(Gpu):60k+ 

(I guess they will sense something fishy)

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Just now, Scitesh said:

(I guess they will sense something fishy)

Would that matter? The main idea in PC building is upgrading part by part. First cost will be bit more than most would like. But if you can get solid base, its easy to upgrade later. Personally I would go for i7, 16gb and decent GPU and have rest just be enough to use. My first own machine costed €900. My last bigger upgrade was about same and it only had mobo, CPU, RAM, SSD and cooler. Next will be about €100 (case and PSU) + ~€70 for bit bigger 2nd screen and new basic gaming mouse (SS Rival most likely).


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22 minutes ago, Scitesh said:

hey guys its Scitest here and i have been really struggling with my current setup|(Dell N510 laptop...)

I am not able to play any games nor am i able to use softwares like premire photoshop and audacity 

(i had a desktop before ...but we sold it when we mowed)

here is the setup That i have selected

 

i7 6700k

gigabyte gaming 7 (Or designaire)

Deepcool Maelstorm 360 (RED)

Strix 1080

Antec HCP 750(or Seasonic s12g 750..if i can locate one)

WD black ;2tb

Samsung evo 850:250GB

Corsair 780t

Gskill Ripjaws v(2x8gb)

Steelseries elite Prism

Razer blackwidow chroma

g502 oR mamba TE

Asus Vg278Qe

NZXT hue

Logitech C920

(extra fans :5x140mm SP)

Total(adding OS and Adobe cloud subsription):INR 200000(+- 5percent)

 

My parents shot down the idea (So help plz) 

Are you asking to fully pay for this PC or are they trying to prevent you from buying it with your own money? This is overkill, I wouldn't buy all this for my son if I had one. I would start by asking them to Pay a small portion of a BUDGET build, not fully pay for a overkill machine. Why dont you work for this instead of relying on your parents? 


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CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K @4.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 
Motherboard:  ASUS Maximus VIII Hero 
GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme 1070 @ 2114Mhz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2

 

Peripherals 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX Browns
Mouse: Logitech G502 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Revolver 

Monitor: U2713M @ 75Hz

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
22 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Are you asking to fully pay for this PC or are they trying to prevent you from buying it with your own money? This is overkill, I wouldn't buy all this for my son if I had one. I would start by asking them to Pay a small portion of a BUDGET build, not fully pay for a overkill machine. Why dont you work for this instead of relying on your parents? 

i have about 20k(Saved from pocket money over 2 years ) and i have said i am ready to GO ALL IN ( it sounds much cooler in my native tongue )

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5 minutes ago, Scitesh said:

i have about 20k(Saved from pocket money over 2 years ) and i have said i am ready to GO ALL IN ( it sounds much cooler in my native tongue )

If you already have some money, get something more reasonable like i5 6600k, any Z170 mobo, 1070 or even i5 6400 and a 1060. 20k out of 200k isn't a lot. Or get the i7 and buy your GPU later.


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7 minutes ago, Scitesh said:

i have about 20k(Saved from pocket money over 2 years ) and i have said i am ready to GO ALL IN ( it sounds much cooler in my native tongue )

Go all in? As in spend it all? Then why ask your parents for money? 


Please quote our replys so we get a notification and can reply easily. Never cheap out on a PSU, or I will come to watch the fireworks. 

PSU Tier List

 

My specs

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PC:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K @4.8GHz
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 
Motherboard:  ASUS Maximus VIII Hero 
GPU: Zotac AMP Extreme 1070 @ 2114Mhz
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W G2

 

Peripherals 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX Browns
Mouse: Logitech G502 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud Revolver 

Monitor: U2713M @ 75Hz

 

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I like how you are not greedy at all. ?Other People have to work hard to buy PC Stuff.


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