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AMD reportedly launching Zen and X370 motherboards at CES

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Peeple are whining about the wait of ZEN. If AMD is making us wait with this much suspense , then this means it is that good as they say.

 

I have nothing but hope for AMD.


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2 hours ago, Ridska said:

Peeple are whining about the wait of ZEN. If AMD is making us wait with this much suspense , then this means it is that good as they say.

 

I have nothing but hope for AMD.

Bulldozer also suffered many delays.  And we know how that turned out... 


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35 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Bulldozer also suffered many delays.  And we know how that tuened out... 

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnndddddd there goes my conversation and my point.

dammn it , i knew u were guud but not dis guud.

 

Anyway, IMO , becasue we are putting pressure on amd , amd might screw this one up.


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If it has the same IPC as Broadwell but more cores then it'll help with CPU overhead a lot more than an i7 would. I've been wanting a GTX 1070 level GPU for a while but I keep getting told my i5 will bottleneck it especially at the resolution and refresh rate I play at.


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22 hours ago, raphidy said:

I want to move from 2500k to a 6 or 8 core at high frequency. Please be good Zen, or i'll have to wait for coffee lake...ugh..

 

No interest in the 5820k?


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1 hour ago, Ridska said:

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnndddddd there goes my conversation and my point.

dammn it , i knew u were guud but not dis guud.

 

Anyway, IMO , becasue we are putting pressure on amd , amd might screw this one up.

well the thing is in any other situation , your point would stand , but not in chip design .

 

Cpu design takes years ( zen started development in 2011-2012 )  . An extra 2-6 months usually doesn't make much of a difference for a chip's performance, especially after the design was taped out . they might add a few power saving features through new steppings , but nothing major because most of the chip is already set in stone by then .

 

a delay on processors is usually either because of yields ( this doesn't seem to be this issue as 14nm lpp yields are good ) or waiting to get enough supply.


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3 minutes ago, raphidy said:

Probably if I get a good deal used, not here in Canada. I probably won't going to pay full price for last gen though.

It's not like i want my 2500k to die, 4.5Ghz @ 1.39V FAH 24/7.

 

Oh Canada! 

 

I was gonna say if you're US 5820k has been $299 at microcenter since it's release, unbeatable IMO.


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2 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

No interest in the 5820k?

I am in the same situation and I not interesting in x99 platform 

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Just now, Tedny said:

I am in the same situation and I don't interesting in x99 platform 

 

:o What's wrong with x99?


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3 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

:o What's wrong with x99?

If I go x99, it won't be Windows PC  ( for game... and 2500k still fine for games) 

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I think I'll get a Zen CPU if for no other reason than it will look good with a Wraith cooler alongside my RX 460. I Don't need anything with more than 4 cores though so depending on what versions of the CPU they're launching first I may wait until something more entry level, low power and mainstream much like my current CPU was when I got it. 

 


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12 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

I wonder if they'll add 3Dnow instructions to Zen. Since it is good for negating some of the problems with their normally weak FPU (they were weak enough before they decided to only use 1 for every 2 ALU).

That's pointless with SSE and AVX around.

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4 hours ago, byalexandr said:

If it has the same IPC as Broadwell but more cores then it'll help with CPU overhead a lot more than an i7 would. I've been wanting a GTX 1070 level GPU for a while but I keep getting told my i5 will bottleneck it especially at the resolution and refresh rate I play at.

I don't know why people keep saying that as if it's a "crippling" bottleneck that will give unplayable frame rates. Even if you're playing at 1080p with a 1070 or 1080, a late gen i5 is NOT going to hold it back THAT much. It's still going to crush any game at well over 60fps, max settings and if you want to avoid said CPU bottlenecking as well as improve visuals, you can also run DSR at 1440 or 4k which will shift the majority of the load to the GPU. 

 

It's not like you're running a 1070 paired with a Celeron. ;)


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20 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

I don't know why people keep saying that as if it's a "crippling" bottleneck that will give unplayable frame rates.

Don't get it either... I ask the question in another way: why is it better to be GPU limited than CPU limited? It wont even be constant and will vary depending on the workload at the time.


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4 hours ago, Sakkura said:

That's pointless with SSE and AVX around.

Not really, not when 3DNow allowed developers to optimize for AMD's CPU easier and actually get the most out of them (something that's difficult with their CMT architectures, due to their difference from all others)


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21 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Not really, not when 3DNow allowed developers to optimize for AMD's CPU easier and actually get the most out of them (something that's difficult with their CMT architectures, due to their difference from all others)

But 3DNow is just an older set of SIMD extensions. Nothing particularly advantageous about it.

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3 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

But 3DNow is just an older set of SIMD extensions. Nothing particularly advantageous about it.

Even with the Phenom II N970 in this laptop it makes a difference-and it has 4 FPU as opposed to the 2 of the A8 4555M in my newer laptop.


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14 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Makes a difference how? What are you comparing?

As in the FPS. It was higher with 3DNow enabled as opposed to disabled-and K10 has the strongest FPU made by AMD to date.


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44 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

As in the FPS. It was higher with 3DNow enabled as opposed to disabled-and K10 has the strongest FPU made by AMD to date.

Well yes, but the same FPS difference would have been achieved with SSE/AVX, if not more.

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39 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Well yes, but the same FPS difference would have been achieved with SSE/AVX, if not more.

Phenom II N970.....with SSE 2-4A....


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On 05/10/2016 at 6:39 PM, zMeul said:

bullshit coming from AMD 

there is nothing known on how those tests were actually conducted

They said it was 3Ghz, Dual Channel DDR4 using the same rendering settings and object.

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4 minutes ago, ScratchCat said:

They said it was 3Ghz, Dual Channel DDR4 using the same rendering settings and object.

AMD has a quite recent history of spewing bullshit about their benchmarks - I do not trust a word they say

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