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AMD reportedly launching Zen and X370 motherboards at CES

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So it seems that AMD plans to launch Zen at CES 2017 ( 6-9 january ) , which should hopefully appease the people hoping to get the chips as soon as possible .

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AMD has already announced that it will be missing the 2016 launch window for its new processors built on the Zen architecture. However, we won’t have to wait long for them to appear in 2017 as reports claim that AMD will be launching its new CPUs at CES in January, alongside a slew of high-end X370 motherboards from various partners.

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We have heard bits and pieces of information regarding the first eight-core Zen/Summit Ridge processor in leaks leading up to now, giving us brief teases when it comes to performance. However, if this information is accurate, we will be getting the full story at CES in January.

Interestingly enough, Intel is also apparently set to launch its desktop Kaby Lake processors at CES too so the competition will be interesting, especially since this will be the first time Intel and AMD have gone directly head to head in the CPU market in quite some time.

KitGuru Says: While it is a shame that AMD couldn’t get Zen out before the end of 2016, a CES launch could end up being quite exciting. That said, this will likely be a paper launch, we still don’t know when retail availability will arrive.

 

Well at least it should launch very early in 2017 . Many of us were worried it would be arriving much later . that is , however , retail avaiability isn't certain . But i won't be getting a new cpu anytime soon anyway . I just want to see how it performs .

 

source:  http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/matthew-wilson/amd-reportedly-launching-zen-and-x370-motherboards-at-ces/

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That's depressing, I'll have to wait until 2018 to write off my new PC build. :(

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I dont really see that point of Zen tbh, I think it will just be a flop. The only way they can beat Intel is with value for the mid-low end gamer like they did with Polaris. From what we have seen it will only be around the performance of Haswell, and a i5 6400 currently costing $190 USD (Probably dropping down more soon), I dont see how they could beat that in price/value and still make a good profit especially as they dont even own their own fabs. 

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58 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

I dont really see that point of Zen tbh, I think it will just be a flop. The only way they can beat Intel is with value for the mid-low end gamer like they did with Polaris. From what we have seen it will only be around the performance of Haswell, and a i5 6400 currently costing $190 USD (Probably dropping down more soon), I dont see how they could beat that in price/value and still make a good profit especially as they dont even own their own fabs. 

The difference between Kaby Lake and Haswell is less than 20%.............

 

And it was rumoured to be as powerful as Broadwell.

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Just now, AluminiumTech said:

The difference between Kaby Lake and Haswell is less than 20%.............

 

And it was rumoured to be as powerful as Broadwell.

Not quite what I heard but anyway. My point was I dont see how they could easily beat Intel in value and still make a reasonable profit, especially when Skylake gets discounted with the release of Kabylake.  

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4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

The difference between Kaby Lake and Haswell is less than 20%.............

 

And it was rumoured to be as powerful as Broadwell.

The rumour was close to Haswell in performance actually.

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1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

The rumour was close to Haswell in performance actually.

I saw several pointing to broadwell like IPC.........

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1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

I saw several pointing to broadwell like IPC.........

AMD's projection was near Haswell, and those several could never be even close to confirmed.

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2 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

AMD's projection was near Haswell, and those several could never be even close to confirmed.

AMD's own damn demo showed it as a tiny bit ahead of broadwell

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41 minutes ago, potoooooooo said:

AMD's own damn demo showed it as a tiny bit ahead of broadwell

Note how little they revealed about the specifications of the rigs they were using. AKA: The results can't be trusted. Especially after the shit they've pulled in the past

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1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

Note how little they revealed about the specifications of the rigs they were using. AKA: The results can't be trusted. Especially after the shit they've pulled in the past

Zen is allegedly 2% faster than a 6900k when both processors are clocked at 3ghz, which is less than the 6900k's base frequency and almost 1ghz less than it's turbo. 

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1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Zen is allegedly 2% faster than a 6900k when both processors are clocked at 3ghz, which is less than the 6900k's base frequency and almost 1ghz less than it's turbo. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10585/unpacking-amds-zen-benchmark-is-zen-actually-2-faster-than-broadwell

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11 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

 

That's the article I've seen in the past, only skimmed through it though.  That's why I tossed in the "allegedly", but I will say that it wasn't until now that I noticed the plethora reasons that the results can't be verified.

 

Don't get me wrong, I wan't Zen to be awesome for many reasons. I just haven't seen any reason to expect it to be impressive.

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All we know about Zen is its IPC, in one specific task, might be better than Broadwell. We don't know about any other tasks. We don't know about configurations. We don't know cost. It is the first significant update from AMD in a very long time and there will be lots of reasons for it to improve. We just don't know how much. I'm not alone in predicting, they'll be priced competitively against Intel wherever they land, so I wouldn't get hopes up for bargain GPUs any time soon. Also note that previous generation Intel CPUs don't really drop in cost.

 

Where AMD might take a lead is offering beyond 4 cores at a more affordable price step than Intel, but I still wouldn't expect it to be low cost. Until then, can only keep waiting.

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1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

I saw several pointing to broadwell like IPC.........

Broadwell and Haswell have practically the same IPC. If it's close to one it's automatically close to the other as well. 

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Been thinking about upgrading my i5 to an i7 but prices are still too high (IMO) even for 2nd hand i7's. I think I will wait for Zen, see how they perform and how much they will cost. If the performance and price is right, I will probably make the platform jump to AM4.

 

AMD has a lot riding on this, they better deliver. 

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Ugh, I don't have the money right now anyway to buy them but I want it to be released and tested so by the time I am ready to buy it's no longer just first gen motherboards. I just don't trust new first gen motherboards and I want atleast a  gen 2 mob or one with a revision number. 

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3 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

The rumour was close to Haswell in performance actually.

At the Zen reveal event it was on part with Broadwell-E IPC.

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Great, exciting start of new year.

As far as per core performance I can't see it being bad specially cause of switch from CMT to SMT alone only, aside from other improvements.

I'm sure they will be priced well too.

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few days ago, AMD launched their latest generation of APUs, on the same socket as ZEN will be

where the fuck are the motherboards?!?!?! except few leaks from OEMs and one GigaByte mobo (I think it was) there is nothing

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3 hours ago, ScratchCat said:

At the Zen reveal event it was on part with Broadwell-E IPC.

bullshit coming from AMD 

there is nothing known on how those tests were actually conducted

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