GTX 1050 and GTX 1050Ti

AssAss1n · October 17, 2016

1 minute ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

That's cheap, but how does it perform? Is this in RX460 territory (the Ti at least)?

1050 will be faster than RX 460. Ti version will be premium perfomance.

Misanthrope · October 17, 2016

2 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

That's cheap, but how does it perform? Is this in RX460 territory (the Ti at least)?

The Ti I would expect to go a bit above a 960 so that's still reasonably slower than the 470 but overall a better "bang for the buck" considering the likely lower power requirement and such and with a decent overclock it might even close the gap with the 470. Probably why AMD is going to drop the price on it.

bobhays · October 18, 2016

On 10/4/2016 at 0:57 PM, AssAss1n said:

Judging by 3Dmark scores, Reference 1050 Ti is better than custom 960 by a bit.

I want to ask you, how much more % perfomance can custom cards offer versus reference ones?

And with day one drivers 1050 Ti can become more powerful right?

Custom cards will only give a boost in OC so up to 20%. No drivers wouldn't make a big difference since there are already Pascal drivers, maybe a little bit but not really anything that you should count on.

On 10/4/2016 at 1:00 PM, Misanthrope said:

Well with a hefty cooling solution it should punch through closer to 970 numbers but with budget cards like this the silicon lottery I suspect is far more relevant since the chips are less rigorously bined (I think, might be talking out of my ass though)

970 is about 50% better than the 960 I don't think it will get that close unless it's a HUGE overclocker like you mentioned its a lottery.

10 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

Could make sense along with the 470 price reduction rumors: It doesn't looks like AMD has an answer for the 140 market right now and the 1050 Ti might be a different kind of sweet spot:

100 = Garbage, everyone but CS:GO and moba players should avoid

150ish = 1050 TI

Sub200 = 470

240ish = 1060 6gb

It doesn't looks like AMD has much overlap and where they do, it's not very clear cut: the 470 undermines the 480 and the 1060 6gb mostly outpaces it on the 250 range (very few games show a 480 advantage at best it's a tie with the 1060 and it loses on many games even DX12 Async games like GoW4). Pricing is definitively getting funky and complicated now.

At the 90 range the 360 is a good recommendation for the CS:GO/Moba players mentioned, or anyone who doesn't want to play new AAA games. Works great for older single players like Bioshock, Skyrim (without crazy mods), etc.

AlTech · October 18, 2016

On ‎9‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 4:16 PM, ThinkWithPortals said:

Why do people do this?

The 970 did NOT have 3.5GB of VRAM, it had 4. It's just that the last .5GB was slower. It's not like the last 512MB was unusable: they weren't.

Is a Ford Fiesta unusable just because it's beaten in a drag race by a Mustang?

Let's be honest here. It should have said 3.5GB on the retail box......

On ‎9‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 11:55 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

Fewer cores, fewer TMUs, many things the same... Is the clock speed jump, combined with whatever IPC changes occurred between Maxwell and Pascal enough to make this a significant improvement over the 950?

I think they're trying to compete with the RX 460. It's not that hard to do based on what I've heard about the RX 460's performance.

Misanthrope · October 18, 2016

4 hours ago, bobhays said:

970 is about 50% better than the 960 I don't think it will get that close unless it's a HUGE overclocker like you mentioned its a lottery.

At the 90 range the 360 is a good recommendation for the CS:GO/Moba players mentioned, or anyone who doesn't want to play new AAA games. Works great for older single players like Bioshock, Skyrim (without crazy mods), etc.

1.- The gap is wide sure but considering it should be above the 960 by a good chunk (10 to 15%) and I said "closer" not "at" 970 levels but since the point is that might expectation might be too high I can concede this point.

2.- I still disagree with that recommendation mainly because usually, by spending 50% more money (150 bracket) you usually get up to 100% more performance. Even if you think a 100 bucks card it's "cheaper" you'll have to replace it so quickly it ends up being more expensive in the long run. Outside of extreme low budgets nobody should be buying a card under 150 and considering the gains also go up quite a bit more on the 200 bracket (470 and 480) it should be encouraged to go 200 for most builds that are at or above 500 total cost.

vanished · October 18, 2016

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

I think they're trying to compete with the RX 460. It's not that hard to do based on what I've heard about the RX 460's performance.

But they had better be planning to "compete" with the 950 as well or their gonna look really stupid

Since when has the successor to a product been slower than the original?

AlTech · October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

But they had better be planning to "compete" with the 950 as well or their gonna look really stupid

Since when has the successor to a product been slower than the original?

I feel like I should remember the name of an Apple product which did this .

I think it was the MacBook 2015 and the Mac Mini 2014 (Literally went from Quad core i7s to Dual core i5s) ........

Sreno1 · October 18, 2016

On 9/25/2016 at 0:33 AM, Space Reptile said:

but we already have a 1050ti , the 3gb 1060 , i dont see the point at all unless the 1050 is 100$ or less

If it was priced around $150 it would wipe the 460 off the market

vanished · October 18, 2016

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

I feel like I should remember the name of an Apple product which did this .

I think it was the MacBook 2015 and the Mac Mini 2014 (Literally went from Quad core i7s to Dual core i5s) ........

Well there very well may be some products that have done this - perhaps even some singular components, like a CPU or GPU, which imo is even worse than a company changing a config like the macbook - but regardless it's still stupid and makes them look bad... imo.

AlTech · October 18, 2016

1 minute ago, Sreno1 said:

If it was priced around $150 it would wipe the 460 off the market

But the 460 has an MSRP of $100......

vanished · October 18, 2016

1 minute ago, Sreno1 said:

If it was priced around $150 it would wipe the 460 off the market

isn't it going to be $109 and $139 for the 1050 and 1050 ti?

Sreno1 · October 18, 2016

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

But the 460 has an MSRP of $100......

MSRP does not matter if the card will never get to that price. 460 4GB's are around $130 ATM. A GTX 1050 TI at around $150 would be a performance improvement worth the extra $20-$40.

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

isn't it going to be $109 and $139 for the 1050 and 1050 ti?

I have heard $150 for the 1050 and $199 for the ti..

Yes I know $199 makes no sense for the ti as it is the same price as a 1060 3gb.

IAEInferno · October 18, 2016

Like the MSRP would matter with how the retailers sell their GPU .

Space Reptile · October 18, 2016

42 minutes ago, Sreno1 said:

MSRP does not matter if the card will never get to that price. 460 4GB's are around $130 ATM. A GTX 1050 TI at around $150 would be a performance improvement worth the extra $20-$40.

so you think the 1050 can hold the msrp of 150 then? , i mean idlove to see a 1080 for 599 you know

Shadow Bullet · October 18, 2016

Original Article: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-pascal-announce/

Nvidia officially announced the new 1050 and 1050 Ti cards. Being priced at $109 and $139 respectively.

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Today, NVIDIA would announce their brand new GeForce GTX 1050 series graphics cards for budget gamers. The new graphics cards are based on the Pascal core architecture that delivers a leap in gaming performance over Maxwell based graphics cards along with increased power efficiency.

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti and GeForce GTX 1050 Announced

Both cards, the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti and GeForce GTX 1050 utilize the GP107 GPU. While the announcement is planned for today, both cards won’t be available in retail market till 25th of October. The reference solutions will feature a very nice SFF design that won’t use any external power connector and would be able to run on an existing power supply with ease.

Misanthrope · October 18, 2016

Officially announced now @NumLock21 might wanna add to OP:

http://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/nvidia_officially_announced_their_gtx_1050_and_gtx_1050ti_gpus/1

October 18, 2016

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The GX 1050 Ti is the full embodiment of the new GP107 GPU, which sports 3.3 billion transistors and the same architectural layout as the previously-released Pascal-based chips. It features six SM units with 128 CUDA cores per SM (for a total of 768 CUDA cores), 32 ROPs, and 4GB of GDDR5 with a 128-bit memory interface running at 7 Gbps. The base clock reaches 1,290MHz with a boost clock rating of 1,392MHz.

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The GTX 1050 Ti and 1050 don’t have a "Founder's Edition" reference card, leaving AIB partners (including MSI, Asus, Zotac, EVGA, Galax, Inno3D, and Palit) responsible for the cooling, clock speeds, and power delivery of the new GPUs. Both are rated for 75W of power and don’t require any additional connectors (and the company isn’t shipping them to partners with the option). However, Nvidia said that overclocked variants with custom PCBs and a 6-pin connector are likely to appear from various vendors, and that clock rates can be substantially increased with proper cooling and power, with some AIB GTX 1050 Ti cards reaching up to 1.9GHz.

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The GeForce GTX 1050 Ti and 1050 are priced at $139 and $109, respectively, with the 1050 Ti entering the marketplace on October 25.

Product	GTX 1050 Ti	GTX 1050	GTX 750 Ti	GTX 650
CUDA Cores	768	640	640	384
Base Clock	1,290MHz	1,354MHz	1,020MHz	1,058MHz
Boost Clock	1,392MHz	1,455MHz	1,085MHz	N/A
Standard Memory	4GB GDDR5	2GB GDDR5	2GB GDDR5	1GB GDDR5
Memory Speed	7 Gbps	7 Gbps	5.4 Gbps	5 Gbps
Memory Bus	128-bit	128-bit	128-bit	128-bit
Minimum PSU	300W	300W	300W	400W

~from TH

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050ti-1050,32877.html

So now RX 460 and RX 470 from AMD finally have a competition. The price is comparable too. I can't wait to upgrade my currently outdated GTX 760 that can not run games maxed out at 30fps +

Mark your calendars people, October 25 will be exciting well at least for me

Not too slow for casual 1080p. Well, no more builds with only RX 460 because we have Nvidia 1050 at similar price.

Dominik W · October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, dexxterlab97 said:

Product

GTX 1050 Ti

GTX 1050

GTX 750 Ti

GTX 650

CUDA Cores

768

640

640

384

Base Clock

1,290MHz

1,354MHz

1,020MHz

1,058MHz

Boost Clock

1,392MHz

1,455MHz

1,085MHz

N/A

Standard Memory

4GB GDDR5

2GB GDDR5

2GB GDDR5

1GB GDDR5

Memory Speed

7 Gbps

7 Gbps

5.4 Gbps

5 Gbps

Memory Bus

128-bit

128-bit

128-bit

128-bit

Minimum PSU

300W

300W

300W

400W

~from TH

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050ti-1050,32877.html

So now RX 460 and RX 470 from AMD finally have a competition. The price is comparable too. I can't wait to upgrade my currently outdated GTX 760 that can not run games maxed out at 30fps +

Mark your calendars people, October 25 will be exciting well at least for me

Not too slow for casual 1080p. Well, no more builds with only RX 460 because we have Nvidia 1050 at similar price.

the price is really good for its kind i might just wait and buy it. i want it so badly

AresKrieger · October 18, 2016

Notice how they aren't comparing core count to the 950

Oswin · October 18, 2016

what is the 1050ti supposed to be compared with?

potoooooooo · October 18, 2016

Finally a good 750 ti replacement

October 18, 2016

And for reference with GTX 760 vs my GTX 760 OEM

Cuda cores 1152

Base clock 980 / 823

Boost clock 1033 / 888

Memory 2GB / 3GB

Memory speed 6GBps / 5.8 GBps

Memoery bus 256 bit / 192 bit

Minimum recommended psu: 500w

Matias_Chambers · October 18, 2016

I can't wait to see how these things compare to the RX 460.

Naeaes · October 18, 2016

These card's are going to be trouble. It's 75W exactly without supplementary power. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1050

Remember the R480 power issues...

October 18, 2016

2 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

Notice how they aren't comparing core count to the 950

Cores : 768

Base clock : 1024

Boost clock : 1188

Memory : 2GB

Memory speed : 6.6 GBps

Bus: 128 bit

Minimum : 350w

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