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Please stop recommending pseudo water-cooling solutions all over the place...

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nepton-280l-tundra-td02-water3.0-pro-reserator3-max,3607-13.html

 

Nuff said?

 

The proof why we shouldn't be recommending all-in-one crappy 'water cooler wannabes'.

 

Never have been a fan of them but this just makes them look REALLY crappy value and you guys too often just PUSH IT into as many systems (Build planning section of forums) as you can, like if it was some godlike solution.

 

Air coolers for the win. If you wanna water-cool, you have to do a custom loop with powerful pump and all that shizz.

 

Thoughts? :)

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+1 really.

Air coolers are the way to go unless you are doing a full water cooling system.

Nothing more is needed other than a Hyper 212+ to be totally honest, unless you are pushing your CPU to the limit.

Or some other air cooler than doesn't look like crap (bequites are nice)

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I don't want to drop $200-400 just to cool my CPU.

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I don't want to drop $200-400 just to cool my CPU.

The NH-D14 is ~$80 USD

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for design and when you have little space it works. but not under corsair h80 for good temps.bad price/perf . and all are rebrands anyways

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The NH-D14 is ~$80 USD

Talking about a full custom loop

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I dont like AIO's for different reason and i certainly dont push them,A cheap EK or XSPC kit is a far better solution,even with the less than perfect cheaper pumps.

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Talking about a full custom loop

You dont have to

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Air coolers for the win.

QFT. I got tired of my loop and moved to air.

although it's driving me insane right now since it's stuck at max speed and I'm waiting for a splitter that Amazon seems reluctant to ship me.

also some of the air coolers out there look way better than a loop IMO. (that H80 would be really good in tight cases though)

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I don't want to drop $200-400 just to cool my CPU.

Then don't, get a good air cooler like NH-D14

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NH-D14 and all other good air coolers are HUGE. And if you have a 200€ motherboard, you damn well want to show it off! That is why I would consider buying a H100i or similar, while not sacrificing performance.

 

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Then don't, get a good air cooler like NH-D14

Im talking about a custom loop.

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AIOs generally have crappy value but, are pretty good preforming (and they look good)

But I agree that generaly high end air coolers are better

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Those AIO liquid coolers are actually worse than air coolers... Look at temps and fan speeds...

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You realise the AIO coolers are meant to keep your PC quiet whilst keeping it relatively cool also?

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Not news, we have known this for a long time (I'm pretty sure Linus have even said it a couple of times in his videos as well). The fact of the matter is though that closed loop coolers are often more convenient than an NH-D14 as the NH-D14 will often have compatibility issues with RAM blocks etc.

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I haven't used the Noctua NH-D14; but I have a hard time believing that air cooling could keep my current configuration as cool as my H100i is currently. Sure it's not ideal compared to an actual water cooling loop, but for the time being it is performing quite well and I'm getting incredible temperatures even with my overclock. 

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NH-D14 and all other good air coolers are HUGE. And if you have a 200€ motherboard, you damn well want to show it off! That is why I would consider buying a H100i or similar, while not sacrificing performance.

Nothing much to show off, only VRM heatsinks and RAM... And I would better buy another GPU than doing custom loop...

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nepton-280l-tundra-td02-water3.0-pro-reserator3-max,3607-13.html

 

Nuff said?

 

The proof why we shouldn't be recommending all-in-one crappy 'water cooler wannabes'.

 

Never have been a fan of them but this just makes them look REALLY crappy value and you guys too often just PUSH IT into as many systems (Build planning section of forums) as you can, like if it was some godlike solution.

 

Air coolers for the win. If you wanna water-cool, you have to do a custom loop with powerful pump and all that shizz.

 

Thoughts? :)

My first thoughts would be......Those who cannot afford to or don't want to spend that much for a custom loop.

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Thoughts? :)

Hmm, the Zalman LQ320, backwards Corsair H90, ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme, Seidon 240M and Kraken X40 are better for the money than the NH-D14. Also, the NH-D14 is not exactly good looking. I was going to buy one, but the brown/tan fans and silver finstack would have ruined my color scheme. And while the chart may say that the Noctua is the quietest, I think my Seidon 240M with SP120QEs would beg to differ. If this sounds like a fanboy rant, I promise you it's not. I am just voicing my opinion.

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I haven't used the Noctua NH-D14; but I have a hard time believing that air cooling could keep my current configuration as cool as my H100i is currently. Sure it's not ideal compared to an actual water cooling loop, but for the time being it is performing quite well and I'm getting incredible temperatures even with my overclock. 

It actually performs the same as H100i, NH-D14 runs few degrees hotter but at much lower RPMs...

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Hmm, the Zalman LQ320, backwards Corsair H90, ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme, Seidon 240M and Kraken X40 are better for the money than the NH-D14. Also, the NH-D14 is not exactly good looking. I was going to buy one, but the brown/tan fans and silver finstack would have ruined my color scheme. And while the chart may say that the Noctua is the quietest, I think my Seidon 240M with SP120QEs would beg to differ. If this sounds like a fanboy rant, I promise you it's not. I am just voicing my opinion.

I dont really worry about the fan color because i could change them or paint them but NH-D14 itself doesnt really fit well in most color schemes

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Enormous air coolers interfere with tall RAM like Dominator Platinums or it hides them, if you built your system for looks as much as you did for speed it would ruin it. The only really powerful air cooler that I know of that won't interfere with any RAM is the Cooler Master V8(not the GTS). AIO's aren't all that bad, they perform almost as well and make your system look very clean, most people(including me) don't want to go through the trouble of building a custom loop even a basic one so an AIO is a decent alternative.

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I dont like AIO's for different reason and i certainly dont push them,A cheap EK or XSPC kit is a far better solution,even with the less than perfect cheaper pumps.

But you lose the warranty. It can also give people a bad impression of watercooling if thier pump fails on a cheap kit meaning they will probably never upgrade. A H100i just works. They also have to spend more money on something they will eventaully have to fully replace.

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It actually performs the same as H100i, NH-D14 runs few degrees hotter but at much lower RPMs...

 

I would like to see how it performs under an overclock. I have a hard time believing that air would cool the fins enough to dissipate the heat compared to liquid.

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