Do you really need a fancy I5 or even I7 to play games at 1080p?

[WooZ_Lv]

Hi.

I did make a short and simple video showing performance of I3 and I7 in 1080p gaiming. 

 

Do you really need a fancy I5 or even I7 to play games at 1080p? The answer is no!
Yeah, everyone want to see 1440p or 2160p gaming benchmarks where I3 will be crushed by bigger brothers, but to be clear most of people are using 1080p or even lower resolution.
1440p or 2160p are for enthusiasts at least for now

With I3 at 1080p you can play games with highest settings but it mostly deppends on your grapchics card.

In CPU heavy games I3 will strugle but most games are heavy on GPU. So you can save money on CPU and saved money use on GPU.

 

I used I3-4150 and I7-4770 and Asus GTX 1070 Strix (not overclocked, but only changed the power and temp limit)
I7 will outperform I3 everywhere, but is that worth at that price difference?
Most negative using I3 for games are sometimes big FPS drops, but average FPS stays at pretty playable zone.

 

 

[don_svetlio]

I had quite the laugh with those graphs, nice joke man.

[Herman Mcpootis]

ladies and gentlemen,this is how a bottleneck looks like. 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

ladies and gentlemen,this is how a bottleneck looks like. 

This is how you waste money on an i3 + 1070 only to get worse performance than a 1060

[samcool55]

If your minimum fps is below 30, you won't get a nice experience, which is always the case with the i3 and never with the i7.

 

Simple as that

[PRTI]

Do you need a i7 to play games? No,you can use a Pentium 3

 

Do you need a i7 to get the most out of your whole rig? Yes

[Windows 10]

No, 30 dollar AMD CPU and a Titan XP together can run games at 70 fps 1080p ultra.

[Herman Mcpootis]

at 1080p 144hz, that i7 will come in very handy in pushing games to 144hz, especially with a gtx 1070. you didn't pay up the extra $100 just to end up being unable to fully utilise the high refresh rates. an i7 in that case will help you get the extra frames for the 144hz smoothness. also, who in the actual fuck pairs up an i3 with a gtx 1070? 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, samcool55 said:

If your minimum fps is below 30, you won't get a nice experience, which is always the case with the i3 and never with the i7.

 

Simple as that

Look at the average - even at 1080p his 1070 cannot hit 60fps solidly. Frame stutter is just icing on the cake

[rn8686]

Graphs are so small and hard to read in the corner. This is basicly as massive bottleneck fest. You dont need an i7, but an i5 is still worth it. If you need to pair an i3 with a 1070, that is just poor budget allocation. In most games shown, it cant even reach over 60 FPS consistently. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Look at the average - even at 1080p his 1070 cannot hit 60fps solidly. Frame stutter is just icing on the cake

and them average framerates. i'm tempted to buy an i5 and gtx 1060 just to show him how badly the i3 is bottlenecking.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, rn8686 said:

Graphs are so small and hard to read in the corner. This is basicly as massive bottleneck fest. You dont need an i7, but an i5 is still worth it. If you need to pair an i3 with a 1070, that is just poor budget allocation. In most games shown, it cant even reach over 60 FPS consistently. 

Even the i5 bottlenecks the 1070/1080 in modern games which use 8-16 threads

[Dackzy]

you should not make tech videos, if you really believe this BS.

[WooZ_Lv]

I have I3 only because I didn't have enough money to upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time. So upgraded GPU first and now I am looking for new CPU.

Just wanted to show that I3 are capable of gaming.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Even the i5 bottlenecks the 1070/1080 in modern games which use 8-16 threads

at least overclocking it might help the bottleneck, lets see how you remove the bottleneck on i3 

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, WooZ_Lv said:

I have I3 only because I didn't have enough money to upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time. So upgraded GPU first and now I am looking for new CPU.

Just wanted to show that I3 are capable of gaming.

Capable - yes. Good - not remotely

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, WooZ_Lv said:

I have I3 only because I didn't have enough money to upgrade CPU and GPU at the same time. So upgraded GPU first and now I am looking for new CPU.

Just wanted to show that I3 are capable of gaming.

they're capable of gaming; just not with a gtx 1070 for gods sake. if you're gonna go get an i3 to pair with a fricking gtx 1070 then you need to rethink your priorities.

[WooZ_Lv]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Capable - yes. Good - not remotely

But what is better ''capable'' or ''nothing''

I know people that think I3 isn't capable running games even with Titan XP  

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, WooZ_Lv said:

But what is better ''capable'' or ''nothing''

I know people that think I3 isn't capable running games even with Titan XP  

with your 'capable' or 'nothing' logic, i should be pairing a athlon 5350 with a titan XP. i mean, its not 'good' but... its umm, 'capable' isn't it?

[WooZ_Lv]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

with your 'capable' or 'nothing' logic, i should be pairing a athlon 5350 with a titan XP. i mean, its not 'good' but... its umm, 'capable' isn't it?

I mean if you are tight on budget then you can buy GPU first and then CPU there for you can buy higher class GPU instead of cheap GPU and expensive CPU.

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, WooZ_Lv said:

I mean if you are tight on budget then you can buy GPU first and then CPU there for you can buy higher class GPU instead of cheap GPU and expensive CPU.

Or just buy a balanced system and upgrade when needed. This here is e-peen stuff.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, WooZ_Lv said:

I mean if you are tight on budget then you can buy GPU first and then CPU there for you can buy higher class GPU instead of cheap GPU and expensive CPU.

and what makes you think everyone will want to quickly upgrade? some people would just get something like an i5 and rx 470, then leave the pc untouched for years. what is smart is that you get a balanced set of components now and upgrade in the future when you need it,  what is stupid is to get a crap cpu and top-tier GPU, just to find out that it bottlenecks so badly you can't properly enjoy your pc and you need to spend even more on components you should have gotten in the past.

[WooZ_Lv]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

and what makes you think everyone will want to quickly upgrade? some people would just get something like an i5 and rx 470, then leave the pc untouched for years.

True

[PRTI]

1 hour ago, WooZ_Lv said:

Yeah, everyone want to see 1440p or 2160p gaming benchmarks where I3 will be crushed by bigger brothers

This is actually not true,the i3 will perform more similar to a i7 in 2160p than 1080p because the higher resolution the more the GPU Load is and the lower the CPU load is so the i7 does not work that much and the results should be more similar in 4k than 1080p,even at 2160p a i3 does not make sense....