AMD VS Intel Two Different Builds, What to Pick?

[nokturrduk84]

Intel

[MeesterJackson]

Not really reliable and the quality of components are not good. I'd only touch Asus, MSi and Gigabyte IMO.

That's what I was thinking too. But ASROCK actually came FROM ASUS, and they got so good at making Motherboards they made their own company. I've heard over the years they've gotten better and better. 

[CwGoh]

lol, thanks. I like them because they are cheap and reliable, I don't care much for fancy bells and whistles, back when I bought the mobo I have atm I would have had to pay an extra 100 - 120 usd (1000 - 1200 zar) to build my rig if I had to choose another brand with the same functionality. and this is my 4th biostar motherboard overall. Had great experience with each, Asus on the other hand can't handle the South African heat and fries as soon as you do a mild OC. 

 

Have you even used Biostar? or are you a sheep following the flock saying whatever others say?

 

Well much of the internet has horror stories of them frying and local shops I talk to have Biostar as the highest RMA rates...

[MeesterJackson]

Intel

Why?

[CwGoh]

That's what I was thinking too. But ASROCK actually came FROM ASUS, and they got so good at making Motherboards they made their own company. I've heard over the years they've gotten better and better. 

 

Probably, but for the same price I'd rather go with other companies. 

[Cryptonite]

Well much of the internet has horror stories of them frying and local shops I talk to have Biostar as the highest RMA rates...

Over here the highest RMA rate is Asus, keep in mind that the consumers also play a role in RMA rates, more morons buy cheaper brands and then break stuff which causes a higher RMA rate. While Asus is only bought by "elitists" and yet still has a high RMA rate.

[MeesterJackson]

I'd have to say Intel for this one, especially if you have to have it now. Vishera (AMD's current FX series) is an outdated architecture which is pretty power inefficient. It will essentially be beaten heavily by Haswell in almost everything, especially single-threaded tasks. For rendering, if you get an FX 8350, it would be around the same as the Haswell Xeon, better if you overclock, but not significant. 

 

Here's a benchmark for you - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/697?vs=836

 

 

ASUS is a good brand to go with. I've always had good results with ASUS, Gigabyte and ASRock. 

 

Yeah, Intel is definitely trying to avoid the 4.0GHz mark, pretty much the whole "trying to stay away from the GHz war" thing. They've never released a chip, ever, that's exceeded 4.0 GHz. 

I noticed, it's annoying as hell. 

[CwGoh]

Over here the highest RMA rate is Asus, keep in mind that the consumers also play a role in RMA rates, more morons buy cheaper brands and then break stuff which causes a higher RMA rate. While Asus is only bought by "elitists" and yet still has a high RMA rate.

 

That's pretty biased, ASUS does make H61 motherboards, which I've owned that has served me very well. Also, looking at sheer component quality the top 4 companies use better quality components compared to Biostar,

[MeesterJackson]

Probably, but for the same price I'd rather go with other companies. 

Just because? Or is there a reason for that?

[mememo]

I would go with the AMD build I use the 8350 myself as a workhorse computer for rendering editing and such its great over all the 8350 is good if your runing a lot of programs at once where the i7 is better if your only runing one or 2 . You should also pick up a good case and fans depending on what your rendering and the amount of time it takes you could be running a cpu on 100% usage on all cores for 3-24 hours Do not use a stock cooler for rendering if you end up going intel its way more taxing on a system than gaming .

 

[CwGoh]

Just because? Or is there a reason for that?

 

Nothing against Asrock, but just i have more experience with other brands. Just being overly cautious.

[MeesterJackson]

I would go with the AMD build I use the 8350 myself as a workhorse computer for rendering editing and such its great over all the 8350 is good if your runing a lot of programs at once where the i7 is better if your only runing one or 2 . You should also pick up a good case and fans depending on what your rendering and the amount of time it takes you could be running a cpu on 100% usage on all cores for 3-24 hours Do not use a stock cooler for rendering if you end up going intel its way more taxing on a system than gaming .

If you looked at my build you'd see that I'm going to be OC'ing the 8320 past an 8350 with a 50 dollar Aftermarket cooler. 

[MeesterJackson]

Nothing against Asrock, but just i have more experience with other brands. Just being overly cautious.

The ONLY one problem that I've really seen from ASUS is their Bios support people say it's really not up to date often on most of their products and need to be improved. 

[MeesterJackson]

There's a bit more AMD votes than Intel, but I'm still not fully sure what I want. This is confusing...

[CwGoh]

The ONLY one problem that I've really seen from ASUS is their Bios support people say it's really not up to date often on most of their products and need to be improved. 

 

Yeah, I've seen this with the transition from .ROM to .CAP bioses. Asus only updated the popular boards.

[Cryptonite]

That's pretty biased, ASUS does make H61 motherboards, which I've owned that has served me very well. Also, looking at sheer component quality the top 4 companies use better quality components compared to Biostar,

lol, telling me my comment is biased and then making a biased statement. I am working with computers and components every day of my life, just last week another one of the companies motherboards died because of heat, and it was an ASUS P8H61-M so really...

 

I don't care what people say as I have first hand experience. And especially ASUS's Z series boards can't handle heat at all, if the quality of the components are so great why are the soldering / compilations of the mobos so bad? 3 weeks ago a friend of mine overclocked his 3570k to 4.2 GHz on his sabertooth and the board died the week after. While I've constantly been messing around trying to hit 5.2 GHz on my i5 2500k doing a little overvolting as well and my board hasn't died on me yet and it's been 2 years of tinkering and messing around.

[CwGoh]

There's a bit more AMD votes than Intel, but I'm still not fully sure what I want. This is confusing...

 

AMD = highly multi-threaded workloads

Intel = Robust single threaded performance.

[CwGoh]

lol, telling me my comment is biased and then making a biased statement. I am working with computers and components every day of my life, just last week another one of the companies motherboards died because of heat, and it was an ASUS P8H61-M so really...

 

I don't care what people say as I have first hand experience. And especially ASUS's Z series boards can't handle heat at all, if the quality of the components are so great why are the soldering / compilations of the mobos so bad? 3 weeks ago a friend of mine overclocked his 3570k to 4.2 GHz on his sabertooth and the board died the week after. While I've constantly been messing around trying to hit 5.2 GHz on my i5 2500k doing a little overvolting as well and my board hasn't died on me yet and it's been 2 years of tinkering and messing around.

 

Okay then. Let's agree to disagree, that is probably better.

[Cryptonite]

There's a bit more AMD votes than Intel, but I'm still not fully sure what I want. This is confusing...

I'd definitely go AMD since you want to stream and record as well. it'll pay off in the long run.

[MeesterJackson]

lol, telling me my comment is biased and then making a biased statement. I am working with computers and components every day of my life, just last week another one of the companies motherboards died because of heat, and it was an ASUS P8H61-M so really...

 

I don't care what people say as I have first hand experience. And especially ASUS's Z series boards can't handle heat at all, if the quality of the components are so great why are the soldering / compilations of the mobos so bad? 3 weeks ago a friend of mine overclocked his 3570k to 4.2 GHz on his sabertooth and the board died the week after. While I've constantly been messing around trying to hit 5.2 GHz on my i5 2500k doing a little overvolting as well and my board hasn't died on me yet and it's been 2 years of tinkering and messing around.

I don't think ASUS planned to have their motherboards sit in areas with temperatures that literally can fry a computer. 

[MeesterJackson]

AMD = highly multi-threaded workloads

Intel = Robust single threaded performance.

Isn't Vegas and recording software usually single?

[Cryptonite]

Okay then. Let's agree to disagree, that is probably better.

yeah, that'd be best. I really don't care what others use their money on. I just give my personal opinions.

[Cryptonite]

Isn't Vegas and recording software usually single?

even if they are single threaded performance wise, it won't make much difference if there isn't much headroom after launching a game or w/e.

[CwGoh]

Isn't Vegas and recording software usually single?

 

Vegas look to be multi-threaded but not heavily. 

[Cryptonite]

I don't think ASUS planned to have their motherboards sit in areas with temperatures that literally can fry a computer. 

that's why I consider them to suck the most out of all the brands out there, second comes gigabyte. 

MSI, Biostar and asrock are all reasonable, I just prefer Biostar since with the prices in SA I can buy myself 2 Biostar boards for the price one from MSI would cost me. (taking features in mind)