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Should game companies stop producing drm protection to stop pirates?

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It looks like drm gets cracked very easy. Why would companies waste thousands of dollars or millions on drm if it does. It work? It makes the experience less enjoyable in my opinion. So should game companies stop making drm protection software?

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Well duh, just look at Witcher 3


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7 minutes ago, Small2134 said:

It looks like drm gets cracked very easy. Why would companies waste thousands of dollars or millions on drm if it does. It work? It makes the experience less enjoyable in my opinion. So should game companies stop making drm protection software?

Definitely. It just makes the paying users suffer even more. e.g. Denuvo Always Online, performance hits.


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Simple DRM is fine to keep out the noobies that are too afraid to torrent. If DRM was removed entirely the amount of people that pirate games would skyrocket.

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Digital Restrictions Management isn’t acceptable IMHO.

 

That said, it is critical that anti-piracy measures are taken to deter pirates from cracking the game for at least the length of time in which sales would be the strongest. Money talks; bullshit walks. Piracy hurts companies the most when their popularity is high, because more people want the game – a simple logical conclusion.


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No they shouldnt because it does help. Witcher 3 worked only because it not having a DRM didnt get widespread until recently


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cause they know that they're are inerrantly bad, and are in this business only to butt f**k the customer


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No, they would loose more money then they would make back if they spend it for DRM


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2 minutes ago, Nicholatian said:

Digital Restrictions Management isn’t acceptable IMHO.

 

That said, it is critical that anti-piracy measures are taken to deter pirates from cracking the game for at least the length of time in which sales would be the strongest. Money talks; bullshit walks. Piracy hurts companies the most when their popularity is high, because more people want the game – a simple logical conclusion.

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2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

No they shouldnt because it does help. Witcher 3 worked only because it didnt get widespread until recently

It was literally available DRM free since day fucking 1 as all GOG releases. The exact opposite if your claim in fact: it did perfectly well on sales and never had DRM.


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Just now, suicidalfranco said:

CD Projekt Red would like to have a word with you 

Sorry, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Want to explain?


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Just now, Nicholatian said:

Sorry, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Want to explain?

sure, basically this:

 


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3 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

It was literally available DRM free since day fucking 1 as all GOG releases. The exact opposite if your claim in fact: it did perfectly well on sales and never had DRM.

Im talkling about it not having DRM protection. I know it did very well. But thats because most people didnt hear about it not having drms until recently afaik


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This topic doesn't belong in the news section. This isn't news. As for the topic. Maybe? I wouldn't say that DRM is cracked easily. It took several months for just one Denuvo game to get a proper crack and several remain uncracked still. It's hard to argue against annoying pirates, as long as it doesn't inconvenience the end user. Denuvo mostly seems to handle that well, but it's debatable. It helps that it's cheap to purchase, making it very attractive to paranoid publishers.

 

As for Witcher 3. It's a good example of DRM not being a huge hinderance BUT it's one title and CDPR has spent years playing to the anti-DRM crowd and setting itself up as the defender of PC gaming and the savior of DRM-free games. They set themselves up so well that people were attacked on forums for criticizing Witcher 3's performance issues and bugs on launch. They're the DRM-free version of Valve at this point (though Valve's blind defense force seems to be dissipating these days).

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2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

No they shouldnt because it does help. Witcher 3 worked only because it didnt get widespread until recently

Well no, the witcher three has been widespread for a long time now.

The only difference is that most torrent databases comply to valid DMCA claims against them on torrents. CDp Red has taken a stance to simply dmca torrents as they become available, and until recently its been very successful. The only reason more and more W3 torrents are becoming available is because of the influx of people due to the DLC launch, and CDp Red being unable to keep up with the sheer amount of fake KAT sites.


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People pull off heists to break into banks.

 

That does NOT mean you should just shrug and say "meh, the steel reinforced vault didn't stop them, so why don't we just save money and have an enormous pile of cash out in the open instead?"

 

If a determined house burglar could smash a window or pick the lock to your house, would you then just throw your arms in the air and just have an open house free to enter by anyone?

 

This isn't even "news". Why did you post this here?

 

OP made shitpost of the century here.

 

Obvious troll is obvious.

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Well no, the witcher three has been widespread for a long time now.

The only difference is that most torrent databases comply to valid DMCA claims against them on torrents. CDp Red has taken a stance to simply dmca torrents as they become available, and until recently its been very successful. The only reason more and more W3 torrents are becoming available is because of the influx of people due to the DLC launch, and CDp Red being unable to keep up with the sheer amount of fake KAT sites.

Again, Im talking about it not having protection not the game


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Just now, suicidalfranco said:

sure, basically this:

That’s quite the fanciful write-up you have there. You sure you’re not a Marxist or something? Lol

 

I don’t approach DRM solely from the perspective of a consumer, because that would be both naïve and somewhat selfish. What is in it for businesspeople? How can they protect their livelihoods from people who engage in piracy?

 

It’s cute that many people like to demonise businesses for trying to make a buck, and slump together every game company in existence with the likes of EA. We have bills to pay and mouths to feed, and our jobs are to make video games. The overgeneralised criticism against DRM is incredibly ignorant towards folks like us.

 

Then again, I don’t expect a whole lot from forums like this anyway, given the average intelligence of most forum-goers. It’s quite apparent with these thoughtless “Yes” and “No” answers followed by a one-liner “explaining” why. Oy vey.


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Nope. DRM only has to last the first couple weeks to give enough time for the majority of potential sales. Companies should be allowed to protect their content from being pirated.


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5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Again, Im talking about it not having protection not the game

It  was released on GOG which everyone knows as a drm free platform 

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5 minutes ago, nobelharvards said:

People pull off heists to break into banks.

 

That does NOT mean you should just shrug and say "meh, the steel reinforced vault didn't stop them, so why don't we just save money and have an enormous pile of cash out in the open instead?"

 

OP made shitpost of the century here.

Even though that could end the money problems of so many people but hey that we don't want.


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Just now, Nizkus said:

It  was released on GOG which everyone knows as a drm free platform 

Ah ok thanks


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So long as the DRM does not detract from the game, or from playing it, devs are free to do what they see fit. 


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