AMD Stock Continues To Skyrocket After Zen Unveiling, Up 330 Percent This Year

[Admiral Naismith]

I think everyone should be thanking the brilliant investment forum r/wallstreetbets for making this happen. It's only because of their well thought out understanding of the subtle nuances of the investment world that AMD could receive this spike in investor interest.

 

Now I'ma go buy my second yacht.

[SurvivorNVL]

I bought back at $2.30 and sold at both $5.50 and $6.  Made a decent penny with a thousand stocks.  Wonder how AMD'll fair when the crash happens, though.

[patrickjp93]

1 hour ago, Devin92 said:

 

It is a reliable source of info (AMD) saying that their Zen CPU is looking good, which gains the market belief to the company and hence ppl wanna invest into them. Doesnt need zen to be really launched to give market the hope. The HYPE IS REAL. 

It's a NOT reliable source (AMD). Seriously, AMD is the most guilty of the big three of hype and disappointment. The benchmarks will be proven fraudulent. I have no doubt at all.

 

AMD is the favorite pump & dump tech stock too. Until it gains real upward momentum as a viable tech choice in the markets, purchasing right now is incredibly dangerous. It wasn't when the price was down in the $2-3 range, but honestly it should never have passed $5. It doesn't have the market cap to sustain that price, so now you are buying above the price a bubble burst would cause the value to fall to. It's an extremely risky move.

[SurvivorNVL]

5 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

It's a NOT reliable source (AMD). Seriously, AMD is the most guilty of the big three of hype and disappointment. The benchmarks will be proven fraudulent. I have no doubt at all.

 

AMD is the favorite pump & dump tech stock too. Until it gains real upward momentum as a viable tech choice in the markets, purchasing right now is incredibly dangerous. It wasn't when the price was down in the $2-3 range, but honestly it should never have passed $5. It doesn't have the market cap to sustain that price, so now you are buying above the price a bubble burst would cause the value to fall to. It's an extremely risky move.

I got bored and pulled out of a lot of stocks recently, because I do not, at all trust this trend of going higher and higher for the market.  It's going to give-way eventually.  Pulled out, and instead taking all the money, which is quite a bit after the fucking capital gains tax.  Cannot wait for that to be abolished.  Anyway.  Buying a -nice- chunk of gold and silver to add to the vault.  And a few new pistols!  

[DocSwag]

I feel proud and sad at the same time now lol.

 

I feel proud because I bought some shares of AMD when it was at 1.81. So I've already more than quadrupled my money in around half a year.

 

I feel sad because I only bought 100 shares .

 

I kept seeing AMD rise a bit and I would think, " Still kinda risky..." And then it would go up and up and up. Then again I wasn't prepared to invest too much since if Zen flopped I would lose a ton of money.

 

Now seeing that Zen seems quite decent I think AMD has the potential to cross $10. I'm still on the edge about buying more though... If it goes down below $7 I'll probably buy more.

[patrickjp93]

36 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

I got bored and pulled out of a lot of stocks recently, because I do not, at all trust this trend of going higher and higher for the market.  It's going to give-way eventually.  Pulled out, and instead taking all the money, which is quite a bit after the fucking capital gains tax.  Cannot wait for that to be abolished.  Anyway.  Buying a -nice- chunk of gold and silver to add to the vault.  And a few new pistols!  

Gold and silver will both decline for the next four years even with a market crash. Their value is simply disappearing because of new conductors in the electronics industry, more countries switching to paper money, jewelry sales being down, and overall just less use.

[Doobeedoo]

Well that's good, puts a good picture, hopefully it delivers in the end.

[RexinOridle]

Performance is fine. I hope the price is dirt cheap.

[Notional]

2 hours ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Wanna hear a great joke :)?

 

AMD stocks are 26€ cheaper than Intel.

Wanna hear a great joke?

 

People comparing stock prices and thinking they know wtf they are talking about.

[No Nrg]

This increase is do to market excitement over a hype announcement. Once it hits a certain level everyone will sell off and it will drop back down to support levels around $5.20/share.

 

If they deliver on the hype, well then it may turn out different.

[Just Monika]

Here's hoping to the atmospheric re-entry of Intel CPU prices. *Raises imaginary wine glass*

[Trik'Stari]

Wish I'd had money to invest in them.

[Coaxialgamer]

5 hours ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Wanna hear a great joke :)?

 

AMD stocks are 26€ cheaper than Intel.

Individual stock prices are a terrible way of comparing companies and it doesn't give any info on the company's financial state. 

[VerticalDiscussions]

3 hours ago, Notional said:

-snip-

Know an even funnier joke?

 

People that cant understand a fingk joke.

[That Norwegian Guy]

8 hours ago, ivan134 said:

You realize it was a joke right?

To be honest most of the "jokes" people regurgitate around anything AMD are about as funny as a wound scab with a dead spider stuck in it, and makes you look as imaginative as a holocaust denier

[themctipers]

one time a long time ago my grandpa had 10k in a bank stock

then the stocks dropped

and dropped

and they went bankrupt

 

[ivan134]

14 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

To be honest most of the "jokes" people regurgitate around anything AMD are about as funny as a wound scab with a dead spider stuck in it, and makes you look as imaginative as a holocaust denier

.....alrighty then....

[malon]

I just hope that when the stock crashes after the initial hype(look at nintendo and pokemon go people)it will still be (way)higher that before, and that when zen really releases they can steadely climb up in value and start to grow again for a long time and put presure on intel and nvidea in both market value and in their products

[Tenelia]

3 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Individual stock prices are a terrible way of comparing companies and it doesn't give any info on the company's financial state. 

Indeed, but here we can see plenty of folks either bashing or supporting this. Oh well.

[Energycore]

8 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

It's a NOT reliable source (AMD). Seriously, AMD is the most guilty of the big three of hype and disappointment. The benchmarks will be proven fraudulent. I have no doubt at all.

 

AMD is the favorite pump & dump tech stock too. Until it gains real upward momentum as a viable tech choice in the markets, purchasing right now is incredibly dangerous. It wasn't when the price was down in the $2-3 range, but honestly it should never have passed $5. It doesn't have the market cap to sustain that price, so now you are buying above the price a bubble burst would cause the value to fall to. It's an extremely risky move.

I agree on the bit about stock but how are you so sure that AMD's bench is rigged?

[patrickjp93]

3 hours ago, Energycore said:

I agree on the bit about stock but how are you so sure that AMD's bench is rigged?

Because I specialize in measuring performance and designing programs to extract as much performance out of given hardware as possible. 

 

Further, http://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf

 

Pay particular attention to the fact many of the SISD instructions since Core/Nehalem were sitting at 1-2 cycles, and from the perspective of bitwise algorithms, they cannot go any faster. Now, observe Haswell onward wrt AVX/2 and FMA. Now realize Blender is incredibly cache-sensitive, and Intel distinctly has the cache advantage.

 

I suspect one of a few possibilities:

 

1) AMD used an Intel platform with modified cache clock speeds

 

2) AMD used an Intel platform with fewer RAM channels used or with very loose timings and low clocks vs. its own.

 

3) AMD used an image which conveniently fit into just the L2 caches of its chip (which are twice as big as Intel's, and thus necessarily slower which you can verify by looking up the rules of cache search algorithms), meaning the results will not reflect most real-world use cases

 

4) AMD used a self-optimized version of blender (it is open-source, so getting a custom-spun version for the test is trivial) for its own platform but used the vanilla for Intel.

 

And there may be possibilities beyond this, but I know Blender's code, and there's no way in Hell this is legitimate.

[sof006]

This makes me happy, I am glad AMD is getting their mojo back.

[Atmos]

16 hours ago, ivan134 said:

You realize it was a joke right?

You just can't tell with people these days.

There were a bunch of users crying about amd having underclocked a 6900k in a test, when they clearly stated it was underclocked, and merely to show how much of an ipc gain they had on that chip. People just see "oh, amd thread!" and like to bandwagon hate on them lately it seems.

[Energycore]

10 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Because I specialize in measuring performance and designing programs to extract as much performance out of given hardware as possible. 

 

Further, http://www.agner.org/optimize/instruction_tables.pdf

 

Pay particular attention to the fact many of the SISD instructions since Core/Nehalem were sitting at 1-2 cycles, and from the perspective of bitwise algorithms, they cannot go any faster. Now, observe Haswell onward wrt AVX/2 and FMA. Now realize Blender is incredibly cache-sensitive, and Intel distinctly has the cache advantage.

 

I suspect one of a few possibilities:

 

1) AMD used an Intel platform with modified cache clock speeds

 

2) AMD used an Intel platform with fewer RAM channels used or with very loose timings and low clocks vs. its own.

 

3) AMD used an image which conveniently fit into just the L2 caches of its chip (which are twice as big as Intel's, and thus necessarily slower which you can verify by looking up the rules of cache search algorithms), meaning the results will not reflect most real-world use cases

 

4) AMD used a self-optimized version of blender (it is open-source, so getting a custom-spun version for the test is trivial) for its own platform but used the vanilla for Intel.

 

And there may be possibilities beyond this, but I know Blender's code, and there's no way in Hell this is legitimate.

While it's easy for AMD to fake the test, very easy in fact as you've shown, I can't be sure that it's actually faked because if Zen turns out not to hit that "same per clock" performance it is going to backlash on them pretty hard. This is an official statement, not a leak.

 

I'd say it's still more likely that they did and later on tried to shield themselves by saying that that test only applies to blender and only to the version of blender they used; but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.

[AresKrieger]

3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

While it's easy for AMD to fake the test, very easy in fact as you've shown, I can't be sure that it's actually faked because if Zen turns out not to hit that "same per clock" performance it is going to backlash on them pretty hard. This is an official statement, not a leak.

I would say you're right but this wouldn't be the first time they've fudged official statements, all the big tech companies seems to do it, however why they keep doing it despite it hurting their reputations eludes me.