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Just now, Thedelgadicone said:

Well if you add in the price of a webcam, keyboard mouse, and screen the performance per dollar gap closes signifigantly.  Again we still don't know the price.  Hopefully a 1060 in a laptop won't be more than 1300-1400.

Webcam is optional and I wouldn't call a trackpad a suitable input method.

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1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Webcam is optional and I wouldn't call a trackpad a suitable input method.

Pointing sticks are much better, too bad they're extinct nowadays.

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3 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Webcam is optional and I wouldn't call a trackpad a suitable input method.

That is true, however you do get a webcam with a laptop.  So you have to factor that into the comparison between a desktop and a laptop.  I don't have a good arguement for the trackpad though.

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Just now, ARikozuM said:

Pointing sticks are much better, too bad they're extinct nowadays.

You mean the wii controller? xD

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Just now, Energycore said:

You mean the wii controller? xD

If it works, right?

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Just now, ARikozuM said:

If it works, right?

I guess it was fun using it. Wouldn't use it for power user shit.

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well just checked the price on origin.  An 8gb i5 6400 gtx 1060 laptop is almost 1800 dollars including taxes.  Hopefully that's a typo or the prices are unstable right now or it's cheaper with another brand.

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45 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I think it's more likely to see the end of "This CPU bottlenecks this new GPU!?!?".

Bit of a shame that even Mid-Range cards don't come in single-slot. Tthe 960 would have been perfectly happy with such cooling.

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I have a feeling this will simply raise the prices of gaming laptops.  The 7559 is $750 on Dell's site, and has a 960m.  Without the 'mobile' variants, I see laptops just going up in price.  The performance and power draw and all is really nice.  (And I love the thin and light gaming laptops with 1060) but I have a feeling they'll all be $1500 plus.

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So they're still different from the destkop cards, they're just not gonna be called differently.

Nvidia sure loves obfuscating their product stack.

 

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1 minute ago, Tech Inquisition said:

Gawdamit my YT watch list just exploded with mobile GPU goodness... my Alienware 15 '15 is looking old suddenly :(

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Another thing I forgot to add, I feel as if the 'budget' gaming laptop market really took off this last generation.  With the 900m series GPUs, we've seen quite a few budget gaming laptops.  The Acer e15, the Dell 7559, the Lenovo Y700, the Acer Nitro, just to name a few.  (There are a lot more).  But I feel with this new 'non mobile' laptop GPUs, well see this section of the gaming laptop market die out.  They essentially don't have any new mobile GPUs (see my $1500 plus prediction) and so the budget market will be stuck to the 940m, 950m, and the 960m.  Unless these new GPUs really push the price down on the 970m and 980m.  (Which I doubt NVidia will continue to manufacture any of the 900m series).

 

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what's the expected price would be for these laptop Luke?

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12 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

Luke hard at work as always :|

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This is so stupid... people will never understand how heat output works really...

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21 minutes ago, HeadsUpHigh said:

This is so stupid... people will never understand how heat output works really...

Not really.....not when you look at for example the GTX 860M and 870M (with the 860M in some laptops being capable of overclocked to beat the 870M without thermal throttling at all after a few hours of gaming)

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i'm due a new laptop at work.... i might hold off a few more months... then again a 1060,70 or 80 isnt really going to make much difference to my work but if my work will buy it for me maybe i could sneak some overwatch in at lunch time :P

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3 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

Not really.....not when you look at for example the GTX 860M and 870M (with the 860M in some laptops being capable of overclocked to beat the 870M without thermal throttling at all after a few hours of gaming)

The cpu is the one that throttles first. My laptop has ana i7 4710hq cpu and a AMD r9 m265x gpu , a piece of garbage silicon that generates aprox. as much heat as a gtx 940m-950m, and I start throttling after just a month from my last cleanup and fan replacement.

 

These comparisons are being done on brand new laptops that do not take into accound the dust that gathers up after just a couple of months of normal use. Especially when you live next to big roads. I have seen deviations from the temperatures measured in some reviews so huge I wonder how the fuck they manage to measure such numbers even in an ideal situation. Just to give you an example, I took a look at an MSI "thin and powerful" laptop with a 970m at a retail shop at my home town, and the machine was pretty warm while iddling on the desctop with a pretty low room temperature.

 

This kind of hardware is just impossible by laws of nature to be put inside a thin laptop chassis. You can only dissipate heat so fast. 

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1 hour ago, HeadsUpHigh said:

The cpu is the one that throttles first. My laptop has ana i7 4710hq cpu and a AMD r9 m265x gpu , a piece of garbage silicon that generates aprox. as much heat as a gtx 940m-950m, and I start throttling after just a month from my last cleanup and fan replacement.

 

These comparisons are being done on brand new laptops that do not take into accound the dust that gathers up after just a couple of months of normal use. Especially when you live next to big roads. I have seen deviations from the temperatures measured in some reviews so huge I wonder how the fuck they manage to measure such numbers even in an ideal situation. Just to give you an example, I took a look at an MSI "thin and powerful" laptop with a 970m at a retail shop at my home town, and the machine was pretty warm while iddling on the desctop with a pretty low room temperature.

 

This kind of hardware is just impossible by laws of nature to be put inside a thin laptop chassis. You can only dissipate heat so fast. 

Note :Everyone with half a brain knows to stay away from thin laptops with high performance CPU+GPU due to the associated heat.

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I'm wondering how much CPU bottle neck we'll see on these laptops (excluding the ones with desktop i7s).

 

My guess is it will be significant.  I'm excited to see benchmarks.

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I wonder if there will be a day when Nvidia and AMD are mainly making chips for laptops and doing desktop graphics cards as a niche market...

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To me, not specifying "M" in the model name, but still having differences, tells me to assume all models are mobile variants. Since anybody can state the one model name as what is included and put in either one.

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